[2026-08-20 00:03:30] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880830","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA401e0e3181701d0f538b33274491aab5","To":"+441618880830","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E0MDFlMGUzMTgxNzAxZDBmNTM4YjMzMjc0NDkxYWFiNSIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NTY4NzIyOTE4IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODMwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzE4MDYwOSJ9.LSHOMOI0Q4DcEyYqwHbByZ3dsa6rgogIHOWNxcVgiv0kGY6eFOvwC73CKgy4i6GHio7-YNRXjMnfSK3mnu0Cow%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447568722918","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447568722918","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 00:32:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 00:56:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 01:32:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 01:56:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 02:00:51] production.ERROR: View [auth.forgot-password] not found. {"exception":"[object] (InvalidArgumentException(code: 0): View [auth.forgot-password] not found. at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/FileViewFinder.php:138)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/FileViewFinder.php(78): Illuminate\\View\\FileViewFinder->findInPaths('auth.forgot-pas...', Array)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Factory.php(150): Illuminate\\View\\FileViewFinder->find('auth.forgot-pas...')
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/helpers.php(1100): Illuminate\\View\\Factory->make('auth.forgot-pas...', Array, Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/fortify/src/Http/Responses/SimpleViewResponse.php(50): view('auth.forgot-pas...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(921): Laravel\\Fortify\\Http\\Responses\\SimpleViewResponse->toResponse(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(906): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::toResponse(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Laravel\\Fortify\\Http\\Responses\\SimpleViewResponse))
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->prepareResponse(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Laravel\\Fortify\\Http\\Responses\\SimpleViewResponse))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Auth/Middleware/RedirectIfAuthenticated.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Auth\\Middleware\\RedirectIfAuthenticated->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure), 'web')
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(31): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(51): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 02:32:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 02:56:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 03:31:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 03:56:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 04:31:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 04:56:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 05:31:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 05:40:28] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11726 (image004.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 05:40:28] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11727 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 05:40:28] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11728 (image007.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 05:40:28] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11729 (image002.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 05:40:28] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11730 (image005.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 05:40:28] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11731 (image008.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 05:40:28] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11732 (image003.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 05:40:28] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11733 (image006.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 05:40:28] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11734 (image009.jpg) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 05:40:30] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19609 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 05:44:21] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19615 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 05:46:45] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19616 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 05:56:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 06:31:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 06:55:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 07:31:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 07:55:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 08:11:59] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"LS","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAfadd8ce581d29f6148059c13183707b8","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FmYWRkOGNlNTgxZDI5ZjYxNDgwNTljMTMxODM3MDdiOCIsImZyb20iOiJhbm9ueW1vdXMiLCJ0byI6Iis0NDE2MTg4ODA4MzQiLCJpYXQiOiIxNzg3MjA5OTE4In0.cPf5mRW8l2m77MPvEVPKBkL86Sspn67dCW9KE89M3M-Bfx9VE-YGXR-7PkuYxKWs9_X7yTVgYx8ICmODPXbUIg%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"anonymous","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"LS","Caller":"anonymous","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 08:31:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 08:39:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 08:40:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 08:44:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 08:52:17] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"LS","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAe4ae8116f86f4f44008aa24499ded8ca","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FlNGFlODExNmY4NmY0ZjQ0MDA4YWEyNDQ5OWRlZDhjYSIsImZyb20iOiJhbm9ueW1vdXMiLCJ0byI6Iis0NDE2MTg4ODA4MzQiLCJpYXQiOiIxNzg3MjEyMzM2In0.UdF-ifav-KqTDaYWfUMGSmHKrDpsMJd00L7BumM3oZARSkrQ5V59etig2GT1M8zYxI0Sujg9ey85sI_MUGvQWQ%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"anonymous","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"LS","Caller":"anonymous","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 08:52:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 08:55:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 08:57:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 08:57:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 08:57:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 08:58:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 08:58:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 08:58:21] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19628 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 08:58:23] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11735 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 08:58:25] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19629 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 08:58:26] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19629 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260819-533DC8' → DSAR 4293.  
[2026-08-20 08:58:28] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19629 response_type=wrong_recipient.  
[2026-08-20 08:58:28] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19629 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=wrong_recipient, dsar_id=4293).  
[2026-08-20 08:58:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 08:58:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 08:59:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 08:59:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 09:00:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:01:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:02:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:02:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:02:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:02:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:02:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:02:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:02:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:02:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:02:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:02:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:02:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:02:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:03:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:03:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:03:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:03:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:03:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:03:57] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19633 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 09:04:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:05:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 09:06:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 09:10:12] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_29","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_29","CallSid":"CA9c9e19498a58edd44b90903999fb17ef","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6245"} 
[2026-08-20 09:10:12] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6245,"CallSid":"CA9c9e19498a58edd44b90903999fb17ef","From":"client:agent_production_29","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_29","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_29","CallSid":"CA9c9e19498a58edd44b90903999fb17ef","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6245"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:10:16] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"OygXuph0Z8QrzfeLJUTrH2PcSs0=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 09:10:23] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_29","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_29","CallSid":"CAfdd4d9bc59a5b1c66ea8ab7131a07eb1","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6246"} 
[2026-08-20 09:10:23] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6246,"CallSid":"CAfdd4d9bc59a5b1c66ea8ab7131a07eb1","From":"client:agent_production_29","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_29","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_29","CallSid":"CAfdd4d9bc59a5b1c66ea8ab7131a07eb1","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6246"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:10:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 09:10:27] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"JkOiojlWZMc1/8ag5JdoZAcXe1M=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 09:11:05] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_29","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_29","CallSid":"CA411d0655757d00d2f4885989c8ea9c6f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6247"} 
[2026-08-20 09:11:05] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6247,"CallSid":"CA411d0655757d00d2f4885989c8ea9c6f","From":"client:agent_production_29","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_29","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_29","CallSid":"CA411d0655757d00d2f4885989c8ea9c6f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6247"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:12:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 09:13:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 09:13:21] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19636 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 09:13:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 09:13:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 09:14:19] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"LS","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA735e1c7c6811382b34ca01653ab383bd","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E3MzVlMWM3YzY4MTEzODJiMzRjYTAxNjUzYWIzODNiZCIsImZyb20iOiJhbm9ueW1vdXMiLCJ0byI6Iis0NDE2MTg4ODA4MzQiLCJpYXQiOiIxNzg3MjEzNjU5In0.1HcCmphz9MpAbNbO91VOdG6pmZUARy9N9U2vUNWxsGIJJEkyXoxHtKmG1Qug9S-SgBxUl00u8VW_y-ihz8a0iA%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"anonymous","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"LS","Caller":"anonymous","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 09:16:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:17:27] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAc0983565afeac7a3cf19bcdcc8408c82","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6249"} 
[2026-08-20 09:17:27] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6249,"CallSid":"CAc0983565afeac7a3cf19bcdcc8408c82","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAc0983565afeac7a3cf19bcdcc8408c82","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6249"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:18:25] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4331 → AssemblyAI 85aa8e58-990e-4699-a708-72461517a17a  
[2026-08-20 09:19:26] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4331 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 09:19:26] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4331 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 09:19:26] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4331. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 09:19:27] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4331  
[2026-08-20 09:20:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 09:21:33] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19637 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 09:21:37] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19637 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='61883'.  
[2026-08-20 09:21:50] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19637 — AI matcher dsar_id=1765, confidence=high.  
[2026-08-20 09:21:50] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19637 linked to DSAR 1765.  
[2026-08-20 09:21:50] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference '61883' for DSAR 1765.  
[2026-08-20 09:21:53] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19637 response_type=delay_notice.  
[2026-08-20 09:21:53] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19637 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=delay_notice, dsar_id=1765).  
[2026-08-20 09:21:53] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19637 auto-set DSAR 1765 status → acknowledged (response_type=delay_notice).  
[2026-08-20 09:22:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:22:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:22:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:22:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:22:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:22:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:28:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:28:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:29:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:29:56] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19633 (client 1476, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 09:30:05] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19616 (client 989, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 09:30:10] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19583 (client 1551, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 09:30:13] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19615 (client 989, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 09:30:19] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19609 (client 989, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 09:30:23] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19582 (client 1551, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 09:30:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:30:55] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAf70d2a4dbe618468a7a64078ba4dc9d2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6250"} 
[2026-08-20 09:30:55] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6250,"CallSid":"CAf70d2a4dbe618468a7a64078ba4dc9d2","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAf70d2a4dbe618468a7a64078ba4dc9d2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6250"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:30:55] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19550 (client 1317, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 09:31:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 09:31:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 09:31:26] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19561 (client 996, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 09:31:56] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11741 (SAR-J-Campbell-20-Aug-2026-08-56-10.part1.pdf) is password protected.  
[2026-08-20 09:31:58] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19638 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 09:31:58] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19638 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260811-9BE04A' → DSAR 4187.  
[2026-08-20 09:32:00] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19638 response_type=partial_data.  
[2026-08-20 09:32:00] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19638 → triage_queue=dsar_evidence (response_type=partial_data, dsar_id=4187).  
[2026-08-20 09:32:02] production.WARNING: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: per-page parse failed for attachment 11741: Secured pdf file are currently not supported.  
[2026-08-20 09:32:02] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11741 — pages=0, large=no.  
[2026-08-20 09:32:03] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4332 → AssemblyAI 0db479f0-142a-46a0-917e-f035588cda4e  
[2026-08-20 09:32:04] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: failed for attachment 11741. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400:
{\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF  (truncated...)
"} 
[2026-08-20 09:32:04] production.ERROR: HTTP request returned status code 400:
{"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF  (truncated...)
 {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\RequestException(code: 400): HTTP request returned status code 400:
{\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF  (truncated...)
 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php:332)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php(348): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->toException()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1064): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->throw(Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}:1043}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): tap(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response), Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ant...', Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(68): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('messages', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Concerns/HandlesFailoverErrors.php(24): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway::generateText():68}()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(66): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->withErrorHandling('anthropic', Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(63): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->generateText(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...', 'You are Synapse...', Array, Array, Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\TextGenerationOptions), 60)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\Concerns\\GeneratesText::prompt():47}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(60): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->prompt(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(197): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Promptable::prompt():60}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(59): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->withModelFailover(Object(Closure), Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob.php(295): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->prompt('Filename: SAR-J...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob.php(107): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob->extractFromFile('SAR-J-Campbell-...', 'application/pdf', Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Files\\StoredDocument), 11741, 1, Object(App\\Models\\Contact\\Hub\\ContactMessageAttachment), NULL, true)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob->handle()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob), false)
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#53 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 09:32:04] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: permanently failed for attachment 11741. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400:
{\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF  (truncated...)
"} 
[2026-08-20 09:32:52] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11742 (SAR-J-Campbell-20-Aug-2026-08-56-10.part2.pdf) is password protected.  
[2026-08-20 09:32:54] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19641 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 09:32:54] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19641 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260811-9BE04A' → DSAR 4187.  
[2026-08-20 09:32:56] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19641 response_type=partial_data.  
[2026-08-20 09:32:56] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19641 → triage_queue=dsar_evidence (response_type=partial_data, dsar_id=4187).  
[2026-08-20 09:32:56] production.WARNING: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: per-page parse failed for attachment 11742: Secured pdf file are currently not supported.  
[2026-08-20 09:32:56] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11742 — pages=0, large=no.  
[2026-08-20 09:32:58] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: failed for attachment 11742. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400:
{\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF  (truncated...)
"} 
[2026-08-20 09:32:58] production.ERROR: HTTP request returned status code 400:
{"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF  (truncated...)
 {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\RequestException(code: 400): HTTP request returned status code 400:
{\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF  (truncated...)
 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php:332)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php(348): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->toException()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1064): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->throw(Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}:1043}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): tap(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response), Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ant...', Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(68): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('messages', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Concerns/HandlesFailoverErrors.php(24): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway::generateText():68}()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(66): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->withErrorHandling('anthropic', Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(63): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->generateText(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...', 'You are Synapse...', Array, Array, Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\TextGenerationOptions), 60)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\Concerns\\GeneratesText::prompt():47}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(60): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->prompt(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(197): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Promptable::prompt():60}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(59): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->withModelFailover(Object(Closure), Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob.php(295): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->prompt('Filename: SAR-J...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob.php(107): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob->extractFromFile('SAR-J-Campbell-...', 'application/pdf', Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Files\\StoredDocument), 11742, 1, Object(App\\Models\\Contact\\Hub\\ContactMessageAttachment), NULL, true)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob->handle()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob), false)
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#53 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 09:32:58] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: permanently failed for attachment 11742. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400:
{\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF  (truncated...)
"} 
[2026-08-20 09:33:04] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4332 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 09:33:04] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4332 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 09:33:05] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4332. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 09:33:05] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4332 — too short to classify (duration=27s, words=75).  
[2026-08-20 09:33:14] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA92ad7d5b32beaf9f8ddc990b4042e760","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6251"} 
[2026-08-20 09:33:14] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6251,"CallSid":"CA92ad7d5b32beaf9f8ddc990b4042e760","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA92ad7d5b32beaf9f8ddc990b4042e760","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6251"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:33:17] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"Z3ALd8frADQ38CjWONi2GldvKCo=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 09:33:44] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11743 (SAR-J-Campbell-20-Aug-2026-08-56-10.part3.pdf) is password protected.  
[2026-08-20 09:33:46] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19642 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 09:33:46] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19642 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260811-9BE04A' → DSAR 4187.  
[2026-08-20 09:33:48] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19642 response_type=partial_data.  
[2026-08-20 09:33:48] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19642 → triage_queue=dsar_evidence (response_type=partial_data, dsar_id=4187).  
[2026-08-20 09:33:49] production.WARNING: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: per-page parse failed for attachment 11743: Secured pdf file are currently not supported.  
[2026-08-20 09:33:49] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11743 — pages=0, large=no.  
[2026-08-20 09:33:50] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: failed for attachment 11743. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400:
{\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF  (truncated...)
"} 
[2026-08-20 09:33:50] production.ERROR: HTTP request returned status code 400:
{"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF  (truncated...)
 {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\RequestException(code: 400): HTTP request returned status code 400:
{\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF  (truncated...)
 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php:332)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/Response.php(348): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->toException()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1064): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response->throw(Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}:1043}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): tap(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\Response), Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ant...', Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(68): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('messages', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Concerns/HandlesFailoverErrors.php(24): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway::generateText():68}()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Gateway/Anthropic/AnthropicGateway.php(66): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->withErrorHandling('anthropic', Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(63): Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\Anthropic\\AnthropicGateway->generateText(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...', 'You are Synapse...', Array, Array, Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Gateway\\TextGenerationOptions), 60)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\Concerns\\GeneratesText::prompt():47}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Providers/Concerns/GeneratesText.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(60): Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider->prompt(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Prompts\\AgentPrompt))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(197): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->{closure:Laravel\\Ai\\Promptable::prompt():60}(Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/ai/src/Promptable.php(59): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->withModelFailover(Object(Closure), Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Providers\\AnthropicProvider), 'claude-sonnet-4...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob.php(295): App\\Synapse\\Agents\\VerifyDsarDocumentAgent->prompt('Filename: SAR-J...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob.php(107): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob->extractFromFile('SAR-J-Campbell-...', 'application/pdf', Array, Object(Laravel\\Ai\\Files\\StoredDocument), 11743, 1, Object(App\\Models\\Contact\\Hub\\ContactMessageAttachment), NULL, true)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob->handle()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob), false)
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#53 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 09:33:50] production.ERROR: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: permanently failed for attachment 11743. {"error":"HTTP request returned status code 400:
{\"type\":\"error\",\"error\":{\"type\":\"invalid_request_error\",\"message\":\"messages.0.content.0.pdf.source.base64.data: The PDF  (truncated...)
"} 
[2026-08-20 09:34:13] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA374d5f9278fc27e36283aedff89ae5c0","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6252"} 
[2026-08-20 09:34:13] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6252,"CallSid":"CA374d5f9278fc27e36283aedff89ae5c0","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA374d5f9278fc27e36283aedff89ae5c0","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6252"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:34:16] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"yzeR40Wj7dRE0cFzuNoWdtYkGPM=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 09:36:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:38:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:38:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 09:39:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:39:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:39:39] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAdb0153037d70258df586280cc9e45610","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FkYjAxNTMwMzdkNzAyNThkZjU4NjI4MGNjOWU0NTYxMCIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NDg1MjQ3NjQ2IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIxNTE3OCJ9.OwKdiA4kgIy3T6MVdDRzzO9HWkzDZl46kjNTQW8SJX5rQb4h1mDT0aF1bh8l2NogPkXs5xcJQRhhhisUPbQe3A%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447485247646","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447485247646","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 09:40:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 09:42:06] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA4749e54432d5642ebadc02337155b627","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6254"} 
[2026-08-20 09:42:06] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6254,"CallSid":"CA4749e54432d5642ebadc02337155b627","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA4749e54432d5642ebadc02337155b627","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6254"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:43:05] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4333 → AssemblyAI cac711e0-e27a-488a-a07b-019d377d4118  
[2026-08-20 09:43:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 09:43:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 09:43:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 09:44:06] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4333 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 09:44:06] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4333 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 09:44:06] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4333. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 09:44:06] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4333 — too short to classify (duration=26s, words=71).  
[2026-08-20 09:44:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 09:46:45] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAdb0153037d70258df586280cc9e45610","DialCallSid":"CA881e60eafc26d40d39208c34014198b8","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"417"} 
[2026-08-20 09:46:46] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA94be5163a8218f73985c77a06322c37a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6255"} 
[2026-08-20 09:46:46] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6255,"CallSid":"CA94be5163a8218f73985c77a06322c37a","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA94be5163a8218f73985c77a06322c37a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6255"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:46:50] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"RSz8qhhQYcxsiq//88y+XPIqyFA=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 09:47:00] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAf60907bf5eacfc8d5b5c6eb52b6e8464","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6256"} 
[2026-08-20 09:47:00] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6256,"CallSid":"CAf60907bf5eacfc8d5b5c6eb52b6e8464","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAf60907bf5eacfc8d5b5c6eb52b6e8464","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6256"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:47:01] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4334 → AssemblyAI c851399c-0dfc-420d-978e-3d4a14d8947b  
[2026-08-20 09:47:04] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"om5u0YAnX490jojTHUEXqwpQp/E=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 09:47:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 09:47:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 09:48:02] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4334 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 09:48:02] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4334 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 09:48:03] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4334. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 09:48:03] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 4334.  
[2026-08-20 09:48:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 09:49:31] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAbffe990ea12d6aba5a150ccdca781d08","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6257"} 
[2026-08-20 09:49:31] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6257,"CallSid":"CAbffe990ea12d6aba5a150ccdca781d08","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAbffe990ea12d6aba5a150ccdca781d08","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6257"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:49:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 09:50:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 09:50:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 09:50:32] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4335 → AssemblyAI b121fde9-38d7-477d-9060-9041e2b2b5c3  
[2026-08-20 09:50:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 09:50:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 09:51:33] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4335 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 09:51:33] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4335 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 09:51:34] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4335. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 09:51:35] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4335  
[2026-08-20 09:53:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 09:53:44] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAbc5aaef5abfb6641c3c128362e7b68a3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6258"} 
[2026-08-20 09:53:44] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6258,"CallSid":"CAbc5aaef5abfb6641c3c128362e7b68a3","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAbc5aaef5abfb6641c3c128362e7b68a3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6258"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:54:19] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4336 → AssemblyAI 24c95df6-d611-4f15-b245-7d4a2be855c5  
[2026-08-20 09:55:03] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAbeb7c6734f799d8a34ba9aed2b5d35e4","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6259"} 
[2026-08-20 09:55:03] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6259,"CallSid":"CAbeb7c6734f799d8a34ba9aed2b5d35e4","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAbeb7c6734f799d8a34ba9aed2b5d35e4","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6259"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:55:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:55:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:55:19] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4336 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 09:55:19] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4336 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 09:55:20] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4336. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 09:55:20] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4336 — too short to classify (duration=26s, words=77).  
[2026-08-20 09:55:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 09:55:35] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 4334.  
[2026-08-20 09:55:38] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4337 → AssemblyAI 5800ac90-190e-487b-b091-325d20924a24  
[2026-08-20 09:55:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 09:55:57] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAc51e36c48ba3465443ba30984188b7d3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6260"} 
[2026-08-20 09:55:57] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6260,"CallSid":"CAc51e36c48ba3465443ba30984188b7d3","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAc51e36c48ba3465443ba30984188b7d3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6260"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:56:19] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4338 → AssemblyAI ba573c88-ee9c-46a9-8b14-486e4dac5363  
[2026-08-20 09:56:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 09:56:38] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4337 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 09:56:38] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4337 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 09:56:39] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4337. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 09:56:39] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4337 — too short to classify (duration=2s, words=7).  
[2026-08-20 09:56:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 09:57:09] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA8c3c79bdb8ab16567245c86ea7b2f69c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6261"} 
[2026-08-20 09:57:09] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6261,"CallSid":"CA8c3c79bdb8ab16567245c86ea7b2f69c","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA8c3c79bdb8ab16567245c86ea7b2f69c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6261"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:57:19] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4338 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 09:57:19] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4338 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 09:57:20] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4338. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 09:57:20] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=manual) for recording 4338.  
[2026-08-20 09:57:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:57:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:57:50] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_22","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_22","CallSid":"CAf8985ad114412f7d132543360c265018","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6262"} 
[2026-08-20 09:57:50] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6262,"CallSid":"CAf8985ad114412f7d132543360c265018","From":"client:agent_production_22","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_22","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_22","CallSid":"CAf8985ad114412f7d132543360c265018","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6262"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:58:03] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4339 → AssemblyAI 5bd1cb97-6b78-4348-a280-1017edfa165d  
[2026-08-20 09:58:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:58:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 09:59:03] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4339 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 09:59:03] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4339 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 09:59:04] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4339. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 09:59:04] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4339 — too short to classify (duration=28s, words=75).  
[2026-08-20 09:59:18] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA234ef9ed43ab6c87fcb7cf7f5bcef31d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6263"} 
[2026-08-20 09:59:18] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6263,"CallSid":"CA234ef9ed43ab6c87fcb7cf7f5bcef31d","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA234ef9ed43ab6c87fcb7cf7f5bcef31d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6263"}} 
[2026-08-20 09:59:36] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA6258efd2eec106b66df683e376b3b020","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6264"} 
[2026-08-20 09:59:36] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6264,"CallSid":"CA6258efd2eec106b66df683e376b3b020","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA6258efd2eec106b66df683e376b3b020","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6264"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:00:22] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4340 → AssemblyAI 59b8c88c-67b4-4b44-b38d-11163695bf0e  
[2026-08-20 10:01:04] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAc9260cb070725235ed9cd632e0aba911","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6265"} 
[2026-08-20 10:01:04] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6265,"CallSid":"CAc9260cb070725235ed9cd632e0aba911","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAc9260cb070725235ed9cd632e0aba911","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6265"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:01:13] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA24809b1507aecd39a58f60934e2c7dba","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6266"} 
[2026-08-20 10:01:13] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6266,"CallSid":"CA24809b1507aecd39a58f60934e2c7dba","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA24809b1507aecd39a58f60934e2c7dba","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6266"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:01:23] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4340 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:01:23] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4340 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:01:23] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4340. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:01:23] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4340 — too short to classify (duration=27s, words=73).  
[2026-08-20 10:03:01] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAf2f654245dd2a8bc07ef6e35166d4c82","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6267"} 
[2026-08-20 10:03:01] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6267,"CallSid":"CAf2f654245dd2a8bc07ef6e35166d4c82","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAf2f654245dd2a8bc07ef6e35166d4c82","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6267"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:03:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 10:03:51] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4341 → AssemblyAI af87b189-06ff-42b7-af4d-c23606d9eeae  
[2026-08-20 10:04:01] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4342 → AssemblyAI 1d5d0f42-fff2-4861-b72e-2b996daf2c84  
[2026-08-20 10:04:16] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19661 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 10:04:17] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19661 — dsar_ref='100074', inst_ref='2626'.  
[2026-08-20 10:04:17] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19661 matched DSAR 1537 via reference lookup (100074, 2626).  
[2026-08-20 10:04:17] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference '2626' for DSAR 1537.  
[2026-08-20 10:04:19] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19661 response_type=partial_data.  
[2026-08-20 10:04:19] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19661 → triage_queue=dsar_evidence (response_type=partial_data, dsar_id=1537).  
[2026-08-20 10:04:52] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4341 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:04:52] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4341 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:04:52] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4341. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:04:53] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4341  
[2026-08-20 10:05:02] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4342 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:05:02] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4342 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:05:02] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4342. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:05:03] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 4342.  
[2026-08-20 10:05:26] production.ERROR: Attempt to read property "display_name" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) {"userId":36,"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 1)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (ErrorException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Bootstrap/HandleExceptions.php(258): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->handleError(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php(15): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions::forwardsTo():257}(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
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[2026-08-20 10:05:29] production.ERROR: Attempt to read property "display_name" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) {"userId":36,"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 1)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (ErrorException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Bootstrap/HandleExceptions.php(258): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->handleError(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php(15): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions::forwardsTo():257}(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
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[2026-08-20 10:05:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 10:05:33] production.ERROR: Attempt to read property "display_name" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) {"userId":36,"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (ErrorException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Bootstrap/HandleExceptions.php(258): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->handleError(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php(15): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions::forwardsTo():257}(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#106 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#107 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 10:05:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 10:05:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 10:05:41] production.ERROR: Attempt to read property "display_name" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) {"userId":36,"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (ErrorException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Bootstrap/HandleExceptions.php(258): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->handleError(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php(15): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions::forwardsTo():257}(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#106 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#107 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 10:05:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 10:06:18] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4343 → AssemblyAI 3de591b7-deb3-41a2-87b9-ce703a4c2395  
[2026-08-20 10:07:19] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4343 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:07:19] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4343 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:07:19] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4343. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:07:20] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4343  
[2026-08-20 10:07:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 10:08:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 10:08:58] production.ERROR: Attempt to read property "display_name" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) {"userId":36,"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (ErrorException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Bootstrap/HandleExceptions.php(258): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->handleError(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php(15): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions::forwardsTo():257}(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#106 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
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[2026-08-20 10:09:12] production.ERROR: Attempt to read property "display_name" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) {"userId":36,"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (ErrorException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Bootstrap/HandleExceptions.php(258): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->handleError(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php(15): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions::forwardsTo():257}(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#106 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
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[2026-08-20 10:09:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 10:09:15] production.ERROR: Attempt to read property "display_name" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) {"userId":36,"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (ErrorException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Bootstrap/HandleExceptions.php(258): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->handleError(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php(15): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions::forwardsTo():257}(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#106 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#107 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 10:12:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:12:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:12:21] production.ERROR: Attempt to read property "display_name" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) {"userId":36,"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (ErrorException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Bootstrap/HandleExceptions.php(258): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->handleError(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php(15): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions::forwardsTo():257}(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#106 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
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[2026-08-20 10:12:48] production.ERROR: Attempt to read property "display_name" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) {"userId":36,"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/statements.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (ErrorException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php:15)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Bootstrap/HandleExceptions.php(258): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->handleError(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/827467bbed3b0feb0efacd06fad86f85.php(15): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions::forwardsTo():257}(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 15)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), Object(Closure))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Statements), '<div></div>')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(246): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-4')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#106 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#107 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 10:13:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 10:13:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 10:13:43] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAfc58eac4921ac64199b1da875113fc50","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6268"} 
[2026-08-20 10:13:43] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6268,"CallSid":"CAfc58eac4921ac64199b1da875113fc50","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAfc58eac4921ac64199b1da875113fc50","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6268"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:14:39] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4344 → AssemblyAI 2034c3f6-c4c5-4009-8b65-c1c729d9312c  
[2026-08-20 10:14:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:15:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:15:38] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19665 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 10:15:39] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4344 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:15:39] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4344 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:15:40] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4344. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:15:41] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4344  
[2026-08-20 10:15:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 10:16:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 10:16:35] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19665 (client 1263, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 10:18:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 10:19:14] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAd9ded0d0e5bea178a96e831b608b7ace","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6269"} 
[2026-08-20 10:19:14] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6269,"CallSid":"CAd9ded0d0e5bea178a96e831b608b7ace","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAd9ded0d0e5bea178a96e831b608b7ace","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6269"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:20:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 10:20:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 10:20:36] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4345 → AssemblyAI 70e290b4-0cac-43d6-abb5-ace4ad76a26b  
[2026-08-20 10:21:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 10:21:22] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAe6ea4191b9f22aff847aab856753397c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6270"} 
[2026-08-20 10:21:22] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6270,"CallSid":"CAe6ea4191b9f22aff847aab856753397c","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAe6ea4191b9f22aff847aab856753397c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6270"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:21:36] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4345 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:21:36] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4345 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:21:37] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4345. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:21:37] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 4345.  
[2026-08-20 10:23:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 10:24:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 10:24:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 10:25:09] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11744 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 10:25:09] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11745 (image002.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 10:25:09] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11746 (image003.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 10:25:09] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11747 (image004.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 10:25:11] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19668 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 10:25:12] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19668 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260819-EFEFAE' → DSAR 4280.  
[2026-08-20 10:25:14] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19668 response_type=delay_notice.  
[2026-08-20 10:25:14] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19668 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=delay_notice, dsar_id=4280).  
[2026-08-20 10:25:14] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19668 auto-set DSAR 4280 status → acknowledged (response_type=delay_notice).  
[2026-08-20 10:26:04] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAd107e02a2a588ee4bd4675f95458933a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6271"} 
[2026-08-20 10:26:04] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6271,"CallSid":"CAd107e02a2a588ee4bd4675f95458933a","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAd107e02a2a588ee4bd4675f95458933a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6271"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:26:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 10:26:40] production.ERROR: Attempt to read property "display_name" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) {"userId":34,"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php:49)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php:49)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 1)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(223): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (ErrorException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php:49)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Bootstrap/HandleExceptions.php(258): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->handleError(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 49)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php(49): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions::forwardsTo():257}(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 49)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager->mount(Object(App\\Models\\Claim\\Claim))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Wrapped.php(23): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportLifecycleHooks/SupportLifecycleHooks.php(134): Livewire\\Wrapped->__call('mount', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportLifecycleHooks/SupportLifecycleHooks.php(20): Livewire\\Features\\SupportLifecycleHooks\\SupportLifecycleHooks->callHook('mount', Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentHook.php(19): Livewire\\Features\\SupportLifecycleHooks\\SupportLifecycleHooks->mount(Array, Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentHookRegistry.php(45): Livewire\\ComponentHook->callMount(Array, Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/EventBus.php(60): Livewire\\ComponentHookRegistry::{closure:Livewire\\ComponentHookRegistry::boot():39}(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager), Array, 'tab-care-settin...', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/helpers.php(98): Livewire\\EventBus->trigger('mount', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager), Array, 'tab-care-settin...', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(50): Livewire\\trigger('mount', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager), Array, 'tab-care-settin...', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'tab-care-settin...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/b207adda115cbf2597aa9244bd4acfd9.php(93): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'tab-care-settin...')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), Object(Closure))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), '<div></div>')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(223): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#106 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#107 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 10:26:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 10:26:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 10:28:29] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4346 → AssemblyAI 8cf4ef6f-78bc-432a-9721-d28fda61e98b  
[2026-08-20 10:28:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 10:29:00] production.ERROR: Attempt to read property "display_name" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) {"userId":36,"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php:49)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php:49)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 1)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(223): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (ErrorException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php:49)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Bootstrap/HandleExceptions.php(258): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->handleError(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 49)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php(49): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions::forwardsTo():257}(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 49)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager->mount(Object(App\\Models\\Claim\\Claim))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Wrapped.php(23): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportLifecycleHooks/SupportLifecycleHooks.php(134): Livewire\\Wrapped->__call('mount', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportLifecycleHooks/SupportLifecycleHooks.php(20): Livewire\\Features\\SupportLifecycleHooks\\SupportLifecycleHooks->callHook('mount', Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentHook.php(19): Livewire\\Features\\SupportLifecycleHooks\\SupportLifecycleHooks->mount(Array, Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentHookRegistry.php(45): Livewire\\ComponentHook->callMount(Array, Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/EventBus.php(60): Livewire\\ComponentHookRegistry::{closure:Livewire\\ComponentHookRegistry::boot():39}(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager), Array, 'tab-care-settin...', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/helpers.php(98): Livewire\\EventBus->trigger('mount', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager), Array, 'tab-care-settin...', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(50): Livewire\\trigger('mount', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager), Array, 'tab-care-settin...', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'tab-care-settin...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/b207adda115cbf2597aa9244bd4acfd9.php(93): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'tab-care-settin...')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), Object(Closure))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), '<div></div>')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(223): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
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#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
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[2026-08-20 10:29:04] production.ERROR: Attempt to read property "display_name" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) {"userId":36,"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php:49)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php:49)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 1)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(223): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (ErrorException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php:49)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Bootstrap/HandleExceptions.php(258): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->handleError(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 49)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php(49): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions::forwardsTo():257}(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 49)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager->mount(Object(App\\Models\\Claim\\Claim))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Wrapped.php(23): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportLifecycleHooks/SupportLifecycleHooks.php(134): Livewire\\Wrapped->__call('mount', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportLifecycleHooks/SupportLifecycleHooks.php(20): Livewire\\Features\\SupportLifecycleHooks\\SupportLifecycleHooks->callHook('mount', Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentHook.php(19): Livewire\\Features\\SupportLifecycleHooks\\SupportLifecycleHooks->mount(Array, Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentHookRegistry.php(45): Livewire\\ComponentHook->callMount(Array, Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/EventBus.php(60): Livewire\\ComponentHookRegistry::{closure:Livewire\\ComponentHookRegistry::boot():39}(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager), Array, 'tab-care-settin...', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/helpers.php(98): Livewire\\EventBus->trigger('mount', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager), Array, 'tab-care-settin...', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(50): Livewire\\trigger('mount', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager), Array, 'tab-care-settin...', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'tab-care-settin...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/b207adda115cbf2597aa9244bd4acfd9.php(93): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'tab-care-settin...')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), Object(Closure))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), '<div></div>')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(223): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#106 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#107 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 10:29:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 10:29:13] production.ERROR: Attempt to read property "display_name" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) {"userId":36,"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php:49)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 0)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php:49)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(Illuminate\\View\\ViewException), 1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (Illuminate\\View\\ViewException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null (View: /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/resources/views/components/claim/application/application.blade.php) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php:49)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(58): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(40): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->handleViewException(Object(ErrorException), 2)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), '<div></div>')
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(223): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (ErrorException(code: 0): Attempt to read property \"display_name\" on null at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php:49)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Bootstrap/HandleExceptions.php(258): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->handleError(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 49)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Components/Claim/Application/CareSettingManager.php(49): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Bootstrap\\HandleExceptions::forwardsTo():257}(2, 'Attempt to read...', '/home/fintrixor...', 49)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager->mount(Object(App\\Models\\Claim\\Claim))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Wrapped.php(23): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportLifecycleHooks/SupportLifecycleHooks.php(134): Livewire\\Wrapped->__call('mount', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportLifecycleHooks/SupportLifecycleHooks.php(20): Livewire\\Features\\SupportLifecycleHooks\\SupportLifecycleHooks->callHook('mount', Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentHook.php(19): Livewire\\Features\\SupportLifecycleHooks\\SupportLifecycleHooks->mount(Array, Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/ComponentHookRegistry.php(45): Livewire\\ComponentHook->callMount(Array, Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/EventBus.php(60): Livewire\\ComponentHookRegistry::{closure:Livewire\\ComponentHookRegistry::boot():39}(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager), Array, 'tab-care-settin...', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/helpers.php(98): Livewire\\EventBus->trigger('mount', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager), Array, 'tab-care-settin...', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(50): Livewire\\trigger('mount', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\CareSettingManager), Array, 'tab-care-settin...', Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'tab-care-settin...')
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/b207adda115cbf2597aa9244bd4acfd9.php(93): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'tab-care-settin...')
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), Object(Closure))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Claim\\Application\\Application), '<div></div>')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/975f6288099e4f6f1878adbe41ad0202.php(223): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('claim.applicati...', Array, 'lw-2014258635-3')
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(54): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\ClientTabs), '<div></div>')
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(73): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/storage/framework/views/f1917e15b097e90a2e888370e9a1f7ac.php(173): Livewire\\LivewireManager->mount('client.client-t...', Array, 'lw-87974220-2')
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(37): include('/home/fintrixor...')
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(38): App\\Components\\Client\\View->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine::evaluatePath():35}()
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Engines/CompilerEngine.php(76): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->evaluatePath('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/ExtendBlade/ExtendedCompilerEngine.php(16): Illuminate\\View\\Engines\\CompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/ViewEngineDecorator.php(47): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\ExtendBlade\\ExtendedCompilerEngine->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(208): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\ViewEngineDecorator->get('/home/fintrixor...', Array)
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(191): Illuminate\\View\\View->getContents()
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/View.php(160): Illuminate\\View\\View->renderContents()
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(282): Illuminate\\View\\View->render(Object(Closure))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(326): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->{closure:Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents::render():274}()
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(274): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->trackInRenderStack(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View), Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleComponents/HandleComponents.php(127): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->render(Object(App\\Components\\Client\\View))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/LivewireManager.php(102): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleComponents\\HandleComponents->update(Array, Array, Array)
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Mechanisms/HandleRequests/HandleRequests.php(144): Livewire\\LivewireManager->update(Array, Array, Array)
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests->handleUpdate()
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Livewire\\Mechanisms\\HandleRequests\\HandleRequests), 'handleUpdate')
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#88 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#89 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#90 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#91 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#92 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#93 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#94 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#95 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#96 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#97 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#98 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#99 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#100 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(47): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#101 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#102 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#103 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#104 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#105 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#106 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#107 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#108 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#109 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#110 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#111 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#112 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#113 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#114 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#115 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#116 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#117 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#118 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#119 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#120 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#121 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 10:29:18] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAd86f1f184b13fa7aae4833c5180d47e2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6272"} 
[2026-08-20 10:29:18] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6272,"CallSid":"CAd86f1f184b13fa7aae4833c5180d47e2","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAd86f1f184b13fa7aae4833c5180d47e2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6272"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:29:30] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4346 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:29:30] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4346 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:29:30] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4346. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:29:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 10:29:31] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4346  
[2026-08-20 10:30:00] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4347 → AssemblyAI 3f57bb3a-fd11-41ca-a783-5df4a5d7d4a6  
[2026-08-20 10:30:22] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4348 → AssemblyAI b702de5b-4c0b-44ea-bc97-2bb3aec4a69e  
[2026-08-20 10:31:01] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4347 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:31:01] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4347 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:31:01] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4347. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:31:02] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4347  
[2026-08-20 10:31:22] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4348 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:31:22] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4348 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:31:23] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4348. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:31:24] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4348  
[2026-08-20 10:32:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 10:32:44] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 10:33:11] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11748 (image001.jpg) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 10:33:11] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11749 (image002.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 10:33:11] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11750 (image003.jpg) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 10:33:13] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19678 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 10:33:13] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19678 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260814-AACD4D' → DSAR 4230.  
[2026-08-20 10:33:15] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19678 response_type=no_record.  
[2026-08-20 10:33:15] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19678 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=no_record, dsar_id=4230).  
[2026-08-20 10:33:15] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19678 auto-set DSAR 4230 status → no records (response_type=no_record).  
[2026-08-20 10:33:39] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAc6d22acc0d2059ba2055d7cec4bb2930","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FjNmQyMmFjYzBkMjA1OWJhMjA1NWQ3Y2VjNGJiMjkzMCIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3ODc0MzU5NzYyIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIxODQxOSJ9.i3egEUUyMABGyLVQZz2Vunme-7Rh6ThaACcWM8q7PLP9fYjkw3-4_-Zcy2Q2Qv3kBUxSQFr6Wdhor3E7TRHCtQ%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447874359762","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447874359762","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 10:34:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 10:34:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 10:34:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 10:35:09] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:36:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:37:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:37:12] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAc69d0537dbf039d6ccbce0541090f328","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6274"} 
[2026-08-20 10:37:12] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6274,"CallSid":"CAc69d0537dbf039d6ccbce0541090f328","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAc69d0537dbf039d6ccbce0541090f328","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6274"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:38:20] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAc98579dff00eab6ed7dfe26b84d3ae84","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6275"} 
[2026-08-20 10:38:20] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6275,"CallSid":"CAc98579dff00eab6ed7dfe26b84d3ae84","From":"client:agent_production_32","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_32","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_32","CallSid":"CAc98579dff00eab6ed7dfe26b84d3ae84","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6275"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:38:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 10:39:09] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11751 (DP202601284_Response_Letter.pdf).  
[2026-08-20 10:39:11] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19682 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 10:39:13] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19682 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='DP/202601284'.  
[2026-08-20 10:39:20] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA7ce5fb717e0eba33b10f5577d7df73e6","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6276"} 
[2026-08-20 10:39:20] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6276,"CallSid":"CA7ce5fb717e0eba33b10f5577d7df73e6","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA7ce5fb717e0eba33b10f5577d7df73e6","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6276"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:39:20] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19682 — AI matcher dsar_id=4041, confidence=high.  
[2026-08-20 10:39:20] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19682 linked to DSAR 4041.  
[2026-08-20 10:39:20] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference 'DP/202601284' for DSAR 4041.  
[2026-08-20 10:39:21] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19682 response_type=no_record.  
[2026-08-20 10:39:21] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19682 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=no_record, dsar_id=4041).  
[2026-08-20 10:39:21] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19682 auto-set DSAR 4041 status → no records (response_type=no_record).  
[2026-08-20 10:39:45] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAa9626377a50464da4362fd0ebe7dd9de","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6277"} 
[2026-08-20 10:39:45] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6277,"CallSid":"CAa9626377a50464da4362fd0ebe7dd9de","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAa9626377a50464da4362fd0ebe7dd9de","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6277"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:40:17] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA13c260e145c36721614498534c26d014","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6278"} 
[2026-08-20 10:40:17] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6278,"CallSid":"CA13c260e145c36721614498534c26d014","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA13c260e145c36721614498534c26d014","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6278"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:40:19] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAb7ae839cda5c74efd05cce2c36e3c3de","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6279"} 
[2026-08-20 10:40:19] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6279,"CallSid":"CAb7ae839cda5c74efd05cce2c36e3c3de","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAb7ae839cda5c74efd05cce2c36e3c3de","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6279"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:40:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 10:42:43] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11752 (DP202601274_Response_Letter.pdf).  
[2026-08-20 10:42:45] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19686 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 10:42:46] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19686 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='DP/202601274'.  
[2026-08-20 10:42:55] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19686 — AI matcher dsar_id=4039, confidence=high.  
[2026-08-20 10:42:55] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19686 linked to DSAR 4039.  
[2026-08-20 10:42:55] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference 'DP/202601274' for DSAR 4039.  
[2026-08-20 10:42:58] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19686 response_type=no_record.  
[2026-08-20 10:42:58] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19686 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=no_record, dsar_id=4039).  
[2026-08-20 10:42:58] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19686 auto-set DSAR 4039 status → no records (response_type=no_record).  
[2026-08-20 10:42:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 10:43:01] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAc6d22acc0d2059ba2055d7cec4bb2930","DialCallSid":"CA659bb2d6d9bbbf91a392095545b35029","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"557"} 
[2026-08-20 10:43:11] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAe71d88de922eaad0fb0185572a0a4896","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6280"} 
[2026-08-20 10:43:11] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6280,"CallSid":"CAe71d88de922eaad0fb0185572a0a4896","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAe71d88de922eaad0fb0185572a0a4896","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6280"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:43:19] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4349 → AssemblyAI 78486ab4-a23d-4e66-a786-2c3ae8b07b23  
[2026-08-20 10:43:48] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4350 → AssemblyAI 6a6e3eba-dfd6-40ee-9cfe-862afbf7c4a9  
[2026-08-20 10:44:20] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4349 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:44:20] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4349 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:44:20] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4349. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:44:20] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 4349.  
[2026-08-20 10:44:48] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4350 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:44:48] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4350 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:44:49] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4350. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:44:49] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4350 — too short to classify (duration=28s, words=68).  
[2026-08-20 10:45:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 10:45:31] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA4705ad7787251e08c01d795a566f95f8","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6281"} 
[2026-08-20 10:45:31] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6281,"CallSid":"CA4705ad7787251e08c01d795a566f95f8","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA4705ad7787251e08c01d795a566f95f8","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6281"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:46:20] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4351 → AssemblyAI bbb906b8-8525-4f5b-8c8b-625e78acb757  
[2026-08-20 10:47:16] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11753 (DP202601268_Response_Letter.pdf).  
[2026-08-20 10:47:18] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19691 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 10:47:20] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19691 — dsar_ref='DSAR-20260723-000000', inst_ref='DP/202601268'.  
[2026-08-20 10:47:20] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4351 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:47:20] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4351 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:47:21] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4351. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:47:22] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4351  
[2026-08-20 10:47:30] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19691 — AI matcher dsar_id=4023, confidence=high.  
[2026-08-20 10:47:30] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19691 linked to DSAR 4023.  
[2026-08-20 10:47:30] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference 'DP/202601268' for DSAR 4023.  
[2026-08-20 10:47:32] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19691 response_type=no_record.  
[2026-08-20 10:47:32] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19691 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=no_record, dsar_id=4023).  
[2026-08-20 10:47:32] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19691 auto-set DSAR 4023 status → no records (response_type=no_record).  
[2026-08-20 10:48:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:50:20] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-a57ad710-5353-4da0-8416-4609675eeeb8.pdf  
[2026-08-20 10:50:22] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-5d3cd0e1-aee9-4268-8aa6-e5bd902a446f.pdf  
[2026-08-20 10:50:25] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA914b9fca55eb4bc33ff79ecd996b3543","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6282"} 
[2026-08-20 10:50:25] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6282,"CallSid":"CA914b9fca55eb4bc33ff79ecd996b3543","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA914b9fca55eb4bc33ff79ecd996b3543","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6282"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:50:25] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-5bcc9473-e9b7-48b1-8b32-78b56a598379.pdf  
[2026-08-20 10:50:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:51:17] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAef74d8153dfde1976dacfe64cb448f08","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6283"} 
[2026-08-20 10:51:17] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6283,"CallSid":"CAef74d8153dfde1976dacfe64cb448f08","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAef74d8153dfde1976dacfe64cb448f08","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6283"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:52:07] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4352 → AssemblyAI 7207fa3b-9722-4bfa-9c79-abd95060bb71  
[2026-08-20 10:52:14] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA4d43c2c8932a66e2d67a2e3049b2f014","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6284"} 
[2026-08-20 10:52:14] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6284,"CallSid":"CA4d43c2c8932a66e2d67a2e3049b2f014","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA4d43c2c8932a66e2d67a2e3049b2f014","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6284"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:52:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 10:52:56] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4353 → AssemblyAI 41be3415-0b9f-4a97-ba59-358ab971da9f  
[2026-08-20 10:53:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:53:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:53:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:53:08] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4352 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:53:08] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4352 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:53:08] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4352. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:53:08] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4352 — too short to classify (duration=18s, words=47).  
[2026-08-20 10:53:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 10:53:32] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA680a16f8b8aa7cbd6ce18db0e1d1a149","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6285"} 
[2026-08-20 10:53:32] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6285,"CallSid":"CA680a16f8b8aa7cbd6ce18db0e1d1a149","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA680a16f8b8aa7cbd6ce18db0e1d1a149","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6285"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:53:56] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4353 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:53:56] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4353 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:53:57] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4353. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:53:58] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4353  
[2026-08-20 10:54:38] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA4ae8f9aee9e9555ea4d48349a651d12a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6286"} 
[2026-08-20 10:54:38] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6286,"CallSid":"CA4ae8f9aee9e9555ea4d48349a651d12a","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA4ae8f9aee9e9555ea4d48349a651d12a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6286"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:54:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:54:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:55:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:56:08] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAe2a3e70e9929ca7ba6046efac5162ede","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6287"} 
[2026-08-20 10:56:08] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6287,"CallSid":"CAe2a3e70e9929ca7ba6046efac5162ede","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAe2a3e70e9929ca7ba6046efac5162ede","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6287"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:56:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 10:56:55] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4354 → AssemblyAI 64154ced-c2d2-47bd-a752-4567ac9b508f  
[2026-08-20 10:56:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:57:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 10:57:44] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 10:57:50] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAc1551a290aabb794cfa3a5d4ded7e472","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6288"} 
[2026-08-20 10:57:50] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6288,"CallSid":"CAc1551a290aabb794cfa3a5d4ded7e472","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAc1551a290aabb794cfa3a5d4ded7e472","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6288"}} 
[2026-08-20 10:57:55] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4354 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:57:55] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4354 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 10:57:56] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4354. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 10:57:56] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4354 — too short to classify (duration=19s, words=59).  
[2026-08-20 10:58:06] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4182 → AssemblyAI 7a51b0fd-4aee-471f-bb30-79679174dd3c  
[2026-08-20 10:58:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:58:17] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-306f2fbd-760f-4d09-b3fa-4689222724f4.pdf  
[2026-08-20 10:58:20] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-f0e124dd-bbd2-455f-b2e8-b12e8edac69f.pdf  
[2026-08-20 10:58:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:58:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 10:59:10] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:59:11] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there, didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, there's, hold on, I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, um, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear, something. That's how you used to run away because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:19]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. I'm too young. I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact.
[A 24:11]: Okay. And what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:16]: Actually, it was a— it was like a Mr Patrick Bishop and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool. Got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you're not—
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah, yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. Um, what about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept to get along because you're just— it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in— well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just— when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:46]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way as soon as they could see that you didn't get on well.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember last names, I can't remember first names.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in Manichea and Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place.
[B 59:10]: Okay, yeah.
[A 59:11]: So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get made to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: That main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just Basically, when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah. So I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. But it does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there, didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, there's, hold on, I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, um, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear, something. That's how you used to run away because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:19]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. I'm too young. I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact.
[A 24:11]: Okay. And what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:16]: Actually, it was a— it was like a Mr Patrick Bishop and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool. Got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you're not—
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah, yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. Um, what about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept to get along because you're just— it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in— well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just— when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:46]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way as soon as they could see that you didn't get on well.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember last names, I can't remember first names.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in Manichea and Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place.
[B 59:10]: Okay, yeah.
[A 59:11]: So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get made to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: That main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just Basically, when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah. So I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. But it does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there, didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, there's, hold on, I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, um, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear, something. That's how you used to run away because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:19]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. I'm too young. I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact.
[A 24:11]: Okay. And what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:16]: Actually, it was a— it was like a Mr Patrick Bishop and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool. Got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you're not—
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah, yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. Um, what about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept to get along because you're just— it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in— well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just— when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:46]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way as soon as they could see that you didn't get on well.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember last names, I can't remember first names.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in Manichea and Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place.
[B 59:10]: Okay, yeah.
[A 59:11]: So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get made to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: That main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just Basically, when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah. So I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. But it does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there, didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, there's, hold on, I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, um, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear, something. That's how you used to run away because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:19]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. I'm too young. I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact.
[A 24:11]: Okay. And what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:16]: Actually, it was a— it was like a Mr Patrick Bishop and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool. Got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you're not—
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah, yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. Um, what about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept to get along because you're just— it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in— well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just— when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:46]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way as soon as they could see that you didn't get on well.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember last names, I can't remember first names.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in Manichea and Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place.
[B 59:10]: Okay, yeah.
[A 59:11]: So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get made to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: That main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just Basically, when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah. So I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. But it does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#42 {main}
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[2026-08-20 10:59:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 10:59:31] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 10:59:31] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there, didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, there's, hold on, I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, um, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear, something. That's how you used to run away because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:19]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. I'm too young. I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact.
[A 24:11]: Okay. And what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:16]: Actually, it was a— it was like a Mr Patrick Bishop and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool. Got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you're not—
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah, yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. Um, what about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept to get along because you're just— it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in— well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just— when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:46]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way as soon as they could see that you didn't get on well.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember last names, I can't remember first names.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in Manichea and Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place.
[B 59:10]: Okay, yeah.
[A 59:11]: So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get made to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: That main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just Basically, when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah. So I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. But it does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there, didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, there's, hold on, I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, um, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear, something. That's how you used to run away because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:19]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. I'm too young. I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact.
[A 24:11]: Okay. And what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:16]: Actually, it was a— it was like a Mr Patrick Bishop and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool. Got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you're not—
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah, yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. Um, what about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept to get along because you're just— it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in— well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just— when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:46]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way as soon as they could see that you didn't get on well.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember last names, I can't remember first names.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in Manichea and Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place.
[B 59:10]: Okay, yeah.
[A 59:11]: So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get made to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: That main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just Basically, when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah. So I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. But it does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there, didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, there's, hold on, I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, um, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear, something. That's how you used to run away because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:19]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. I'm too young. I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact.
[A 24:11]: Okay. And what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:16]: Actually, it was a— it was like a Mr Patrick Bishop and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool. Got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you're not—
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah, yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. Um, what about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept to get along because you're just— it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in— well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just— when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:46]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way as soon as they could see that you didn't get on well.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember last names, I can't remember first names.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in Manichea and Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place.
[B 59:10]: Okay, yeah.
[A 59:11]: So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get made to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: That main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just Basically, when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah. So I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. But it does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there, didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, there's, hold on, I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, um, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear, something. That's how you used to run away because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:19]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. I'm too young. I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact.
[A 24:11]: Okay. And what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:16]: Actually, it was a— it was like a Mr Patrick Bishop and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool. Got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you're not—
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah, yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. Um, what about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept to get along because you're just— it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in— well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just— when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:46]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way as soon as they could see that you didn't get on well.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember last names, I can't remember first names.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in Manichea and Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place.
[B 59:10]: Okay, yeah.
[A 59:11]: So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get made to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: That main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just Basically, when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah. So I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. But it does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#42 {main}
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[2026-08-20 10:59:53] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there, didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, there's, hold on, I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, um, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear, something. That's how you used to run away because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:19]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. I'm too young. I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact.
[A 24:11]: Okay. And what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:16]: Actually, it was a— it was like a Mr Patrick Bishop and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool. Got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you're not—
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah, yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. Um, what about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept to get along because you're just— it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in— well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just— when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:46]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way as soon as they could see that you didn't get on well.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember last names, I can't remember first names.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in Manichea and Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place.
[B 59:10]: Okay, yeah.
[A 59:11]: So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get made to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: That main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just Basically, when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah. So I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. But it does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there, didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, there's, hold on, I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, um, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear, something. That's how you used to run away because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:19]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. I'm too young. I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact.
[A 24:11]: Okay. And what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:16]: Actually, it was a— it was like a Mr Patrick Bishop and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool. Got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you're not—
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah, yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. Um, what about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept to get along because you're just— it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in— well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just— when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:46]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way as soon as they could see that you didn't get on well.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember last names, I can't remember first names.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in Manichea and Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place.
[B 59:10]: Okay, yeah.
[A 59:11]: So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get made to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: That main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just Basically, when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah. So I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. But it does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there, didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, there's, hold on, I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, um, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear, something. That's how you used to run away because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:19]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. I'm too young. I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact.
[A 24:11]: Okay. And what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:16]: Actually, it was a— it was like a Mr Patrick Bishop and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool. Got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you're not—
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah, yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. Um, what about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept to get along because you're just— it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in— well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just— when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:46]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way as soon as they could see that you didn't get on well.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember last names, I can't remember first names.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in Manichea and Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place.
[B 59:10]: Okay, yeah.
[A 59:11]: So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get made to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: That main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just Basically, when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah. So I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. But it does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there, didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, there's, hold on, I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, um, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear, something. That's how you used to run away because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:19]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. I'm too young. I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact.
[A 24:11]: Okay. And what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:16]: Actually, it was a— it was like a Mr Patrick Bishop and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool. Got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you're not—
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah, yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. Um, what about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept to get along because you're just— it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in— well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just— when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:46]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way as soon as they could see that you didn't get on well.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember last names, I can't remember first names.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in Manichea and Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place.
[B 59:10]: Okay, yeah.
[A 59:11]: So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get made to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: That main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just Basically, when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah. So I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. But it does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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[2026-08-20 11:04:52] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of arseholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened.
[A 20:38]: Okay.
[B 20:40]: You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of—
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherriesley. Yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah?
[B 37:37]: Yes, they were boys.
[A 37:40]: It was just boys?
[B 37:41]: Yes, it was a boys' dorm.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you know, when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips, that was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your own knee, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Renfrew next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mum phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah, no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there. Okay.
[A 56:59]: Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, 80 depois.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: 80,000.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't right in Camorris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in court.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people were in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No? Okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You shouldna. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:37]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of arseholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened.
[A 20:38]: Okay.
[B 20:40]: You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of—
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherriesley. Yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah?
[B 37:37]: Yes, they were boys.
[A 37:40]: It was just boys?
[B 37:41]: Yes, it was a boys' dorm.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you know, when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips, that was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your own knee, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Renfrew next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mum phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah, no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there. Okay.
[A 56:59]: Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, 80 depois.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: 80,000.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't right in Camorris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in court.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people were in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No? Okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You shouldna. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:37]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of arseholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened.
[A 20:38]: Okay.
[B 20:40]: You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of—
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherriesley. Yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah?
[B 37:37]: Yes, they were boys.
[A 37:40]: It was just boys?
[B 37:41]: Yes, it was a boys' dorm.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you know, when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips, that was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your own knee, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Renfrew next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mum phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah, no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there. Okay.
[A 56:59]: Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, 80 depois.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: 80,000.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't right in Camorris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in court.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people were in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No? Okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You shouldna. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:37]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of arseholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened.
[A 20:38]: Okay.
[B 20:40]: You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of—
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherriesley. Yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah?
[B 37:37]: Yes, they were boys.
[A 37:40]: It was just boys?
[B 37:41]: Yes, it was a boys' dorm.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you know, when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips, that was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your own knee, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Renfrew next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mum phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah, no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there. Okay.
[A 56:59]: Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, 80 depois.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: 80,000.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't right in Camorris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in court.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people were in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No? Okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You shouldna. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:37]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
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#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
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#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
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#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
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#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
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[2026-08-20 11:04:56] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of March 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't so long ago that we weren't seen anymore. That would've been about 10 years old or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say— So how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt? Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it.
[B 09:54]: No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name?
[B 11:20]: Did it look— no, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, this, hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's, I believe, for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right. Don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I think. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence? Yes, it was often.
[B 16:56]: Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away? Yes, that was all.
[B 18:35]: That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care. You've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: no, certain staff, right, certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, when there was one.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:06]: I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Millfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah? Yes, they were boys. It was just boys? Yes, it was a boys' dorm. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up and choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime. Suppertime, we used to get— we used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end in, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine. One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams.
[B 47:55]: Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you go, you know that, no, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[A 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes. Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people have different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of people, people's not that bad, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen? You just tended yourself, actually.
[B 56:47]: Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine.
[B 60:37]: No, you're not, absolutely.
[A 60:40]: Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe, never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just, we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't. Yeah, I've got that. It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Right. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the tin. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future.
[B 78:58]: It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I don't think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022?
[A 81:44]: They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme.
[B 81:48]: That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of the year.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Right back. Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this? Aye, aye, I think it'll go. Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of March 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't so long ago that we weren't seen anymore. That would've been about 10 years old or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say— So how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt? Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it.
[B 09:54]: No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name?
[B 11:20]: Did it look— no, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, this, hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's, I believe, for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right. Don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I think. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence? Yes, it was often.
[B 16:56]: Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away? Yes, that was all.
[B 18:35]: That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care. You've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: no, certain staff, right, certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, when there was one.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:06]: I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Millfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah? Yes, they were boys. It was just boys? Yes, it was a boys' dorm. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up and choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime. Suppertime, we used to get— we used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end in, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine. One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams.
[B 47:55]: Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you go, you know that, no, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[A 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes. Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people have different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of people, people's not that bad, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen? You just tended yourself, actually.
[B 56:47]: Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine.
[B 60:37]: No, you're not, absolutely.
[A 60:40]: Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe, never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just, we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't. Yeah, I've got that. It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Right. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the tin. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future.
[B 78:58]: It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I don't think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022?
[A 81:44]: They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme.
[B 81:48]: That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of the year.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Right back. Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this? Aye, aye, I think it'll go. Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of March 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't so long ago that we weren't seen anymore. That would've been about 10 years old or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say— So how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt? Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it.
[B 09:54]: No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name?
[B 11:20]: Did it look— no, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, this, hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's, I believe, for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right. Don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I think. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence? Yes, it was often.
[B 16:56]: Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away? Yes, that was all.
[B 18:35]: That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care. You've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: no, certain staff, right, certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, when there was one.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:06]: I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Millfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah? Yes, they were boys. It was just boys? Yes, it was a boys' dorm. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up and choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime. Suppertime, we used to get— we used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end in, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine. One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams.
[B 47:55]: Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you go, you know that, no, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[A 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes. Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people have different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of people, people's not that bad, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen? You just tended yourself, actually.
[B 56:47]: Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine.
[B 60:37]: No, you're not, absolutely.
[A 60:40]: Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe, never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just, we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't. Yeah, I've got that. It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Right. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the tin. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future.
[B 78:58]: It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I don't think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022?
[A 81:44]: They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme.
[B 81:48]: That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of the year.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Right back. Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this? Aye, aye, I think it'll go. Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of March 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't so long ago that we weren't seen anymore. That would've been about 10 years old or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say— So how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt? Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it.
[B 09:54]: No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name?
[B 11:20]: Did it look— no, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, this, hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's, I believe, for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right. Don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I think. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence? Yes, it was often.
[B 16:56]: Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away? Yes, that was all.
[B 18:35]: That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care. You've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: no, certain staff, right, certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, when there was one.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:06]: I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Millfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah? Yes, they were boys. It was just boys? Yes, it was a boys' dorm. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up and choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime. Suppertime, we used to get— we used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end in, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine. One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams.
[B 47:55]: Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you go, you know that, no, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[A 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes. Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people have different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of people, people's not that bad, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen? You just tended yourself, actually.
[B 56:47]: Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine.
[B 60:37]: No, you're not, absolutely.
[A 60:40]: Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe, never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just, we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't. Yeah, I've got that. It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Right. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the tin. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future.
[B 78:58]: It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I don't think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022?
[A 81:44]: They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme.
[B 81:48]: That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of the year.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Right back. Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this? Aye, aye, I think it'll go. Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[2026-08-20 11:04:59] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 11:05:00] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: Uh, my granddad, when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mom was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mom ended up putting us into care because my granddad— but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway. But me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hems of it. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around, you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah, no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beach Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beach Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together? Yes, you used to do that.
[B 23:12]: Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long. Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay? Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right. You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay.
[B 25:05]: He's youngest.
[A 25:06]: Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you. That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all?
[B 26:45]: That's okay. I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family?
[B 29:12]: Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay.
[A 29:19]: What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me. And then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[B 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't?
[A 34:46]: Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. Just couldn't take the voice at all. Just couldn't really get with it. Some homes you mess in, you know, and some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to show up. If you want, I'll show up," and go out. Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory, and lunchtime there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time you used to bring your dinner, and then at supper time you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay, and were you given like a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good. Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of.
[A 39:48]: So they used to—
[B 39:49]: we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing. Yeah.
[A 40:36]: Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically. Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse? It changed for the staff.
[B 45:51]: It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrentham next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No.
[B 50:10]: No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on the shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a parcel. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there? I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place. So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing? Yes, you used to get a bus ticket.
[B 52:06]: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the on/off, it's a security limiter. Was it a secure unit?
[A 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened?
[A 62:10]: Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay. I remember that.
[B 64:53]: It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be.
[A 65:46]: What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships? I don't really have relationships, no.
[B 69:51]: I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:29]: It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just want the aid." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean.
[A 72:46]: It's kind of— No, I understand. I'd love company, to be honest with you.
[B 72:53]: I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out in kinder. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just— they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean?
[A 81:24]: Yeah, I don't think they understand that.
[B 81:27]: I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any— I've spoken for much of years. Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you? He's been there for the last year.
[B 82:43]: He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him. I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back.
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in Mother Russia, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, "Yep," and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: Uh, my granddad, when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mom was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mom ended up putting us into care because my granddad— but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway. But me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hems of it. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around, you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah, no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beach Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beach Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together? Yes, you used to do that.
[B 23:12]: Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long. Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay? Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right. You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay.
[B 25:05]: He's youngest.
[A 25:06]: Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you. That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all?
[B 26:45]: That's okay. I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family?
[B 29:12]: Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay.
[A 29:19]: What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me. And then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[B 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't?
[A 34:46]: Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. Just couldn't take the voice at all. Just couldn't really get with it. Some homes you mess in, you know, and some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to show up. If you want, I'll show up," and go out. Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory, and lunchtime there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time you used to bring your dinner, and then at supper time you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay, and were you given like a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good. Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of.
[A 39:48]: So they used to—
[B 39:49]: we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing. Yeah.
[A 40:36]: Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically. Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse? It changed for the staff.
[B 45:51]: It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrentham next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No.
[B 50:10]: No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on the shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a parcel. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there? I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place. So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing? Yes, you used to get a bus ticket.
[B 52:06]: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the on/off, it's a security limiter. Was it a secure unit?
[A 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened?
[A 62:10]: Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay. I remember that.
[B 64:53]: It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be.
[A 65:46]: What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships? I don't really have relationships, no.
[B 69:51]: I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:29]: It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just want the aid." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean.
[A 72:46]: It's kind of— No, I understand. I'd love company, to be honest with you.
[B 72:53]: I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out in kinder. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just— they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean?
[A 81:24]: Yeah, I don't think they understand that.
[B 81:27]: I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any— I've spoken for much of years. Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you? He's been there for the last year.
[B 82:43]: He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him. I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back.
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in Mother Russia, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, "Yep," and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: Uh, my granddad, when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mom was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mom ended up putting us into care because my granddad— but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway. But me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hems of it. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around, you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah, no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beach Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beach Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together? Yes, you used to do that.
[B 23:12]: Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long. Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay? Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right. You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay.
[B 25:05]: He's youngest.
[A 25:06]: Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you. That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all?
[B 26:45]: That's okay. I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family?
[B 29:12]: Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay.
[A 29:19]: What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me. And then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[B 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't?
[A 34:46]: Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. Just couldn't take the voice at all. Just couldn't really get with it. Some homes you mess in, you know, and some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to show up. If you want, I'll show up,\" and go out. Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory, and lunchtime there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time you used to bring your dinner, and then at supper time you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay, and were you given like a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good. Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of.
[A 39:48]: So they used to—
[B 39:49]: we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing. Yeah.
[A 40:36]: Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically. Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse? It changed for the staff.
[B 45:51]: It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrentham next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No.
[B 50:10]: No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on the shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a parcel. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there? I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place. So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing? Yes, you used to get a bus ticket.
[B 52:06]: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the on/off, it's a security limiter. Was it a secure unit?
[A 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened?
[A 62:10]: Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay. I remember that.
[B 64:53]: It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be.
[A 65:46]: What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships? I don't really have relationships, no.
[B 69:51]: I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:29]: It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just want the aid.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean.
[A 72:46]: It's kind of— No, I understand. I'd love company, to be honest with you.
[B 72:53]: I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out in kinder. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just— they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean?
[A 81:24]: Yeah, I don't think they understand that.
[B 81:27]: I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any— I've spoken for much of years. Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you? He's been there for the last year.
[B 82:43]: He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him. I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back.
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in Mother Russia, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, \"Yep,\" and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: Uh, my granddad, when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mom was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mom ended up putting us into care because my granddad— but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway. But me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hems of it. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around, you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah, no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beach Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beach Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together? Yes, you used to do that.
[B 23:12]: Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long. Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay? Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right. You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay.
[B 25:05]: He's youngest.
[A 25:06]: Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you. That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all?
[B 26:45]: That's okay. I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family?
[B 29:12]: Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay.
[A 29:19]: What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me. And then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[B 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't?
[A 34:46]: Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. Just couldn't take the voice at all. Just couldn't really get with it. Some homes you mess in, you know, and some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to show up. If you want, I'll show up,\" and go out. Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory, and lunchtime there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time you used to bring your dinner, and then at supper time you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay, and were you given like a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good. Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of.
[A 39:48]: So they used to—
[B 39:49]: we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing. Yeah.
[A 40:36]: Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically. Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse? It changed for the staff.
[B 45:51]: It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrentham next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No.
[B 50:10]: No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on the shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a parcel. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there? I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place. So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing? Yes, you used to get a bus ticket.
[B 52:06]: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the on/off, it's a security limiter. Was it a secure unit?
[A 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened?
[A 62:10]: Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay. I remember that.
[B 64:53]: It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be.
[A 65:46]: What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships? I don't really have relationships, no.
[B 69:51]: I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:29]: It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just want the aid.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean.
[A 72:46]: It's kind of— No, I understand. I'd love company, to be honest with you.
[B 72:53]: I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out in kinder. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just— they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean?
[A 81:24]: Yeah, I don't think they understand that.
[B 81:27]: I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any— I've spoken for much of years. Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you? He's been there for the last year.
[B 82:43]: He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him. I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back.
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in Mother Russia, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, \"Yep,\" and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
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#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
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#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
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#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
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[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of arseholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened.
[A 20:38]: Okay.
[B 20:40]: You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of—
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherriesley. Yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah?
[B 37:37]: Yes, they were boys.
[A 37:40]: It was just boys?
[B 37:41]: Yes, it was a boys' dorm.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you know, when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips, that was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your own knee, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Renfrew next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mum phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah, no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there. Okay.
[A 56:59]: Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, 80 depois.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: 80,000.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't right in Camorris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in court.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people were in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No? Okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You shouldna. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:37]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of arseholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened.
[A 20:38]: Okay.
[B 20:40]: You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of—
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherriesley. Yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah?
[B 37:37]: Yes, they were boys.
[A 37:40]: It was just boys?
[B 37:41]: Yes, it was a boys' dorm.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you know, when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips, that was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your own knee, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Renfrew next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mum phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah, no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there. Okay.
[A 56:59]: Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, 80 depois.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: 80,000.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't right in Camorris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in court.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people were in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No? Okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You shouldna. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:37]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of arseholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened.
[A 20:38]: Okay.
[B 20:40]: You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of—
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherriesley. Yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah?
[B 37:37]: Yes, they were boys.
[A 37:40]: It was just boys?
[B 37:41]: Yes, it was a boys' dorm.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you know, when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips, that was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your own knee, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Renfrew next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mum phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah, no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there. Okay.
[A 56:59]: Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, 80 depois.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: 80,000.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't right in Camorris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in court.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people were in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No? Okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You shouldna. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:37]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of arseholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened.
[A 20:38]: Okay.
[B 20:40]: You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of—
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherriesley. Yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah?
[B 37:37]: Yes, they were boys.
[A 37:40]: It was just boys?
[B 37:41]: Yes, it was a boys' dorm.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you know, when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips, that was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your own knee, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Renfrew next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mum phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah, no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there. Okay.
[A 56:59]: Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, 80 depois.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: 80,000.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't right in Camorris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in court.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people were in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No? Okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You shouldna. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:37]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[2026-08-20 11:05:14] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 11:05:14] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of March 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't so long ago that we weren't seen anymore. That would've been about 10 years old or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say— So how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt? Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it.
[B 09:54]: No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name?
[B 11:20]: Did it look— no, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, this, hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's, I believe, for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right. Don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I think. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence? Yes, it was often.
[B 16:56]: Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away? Yes, that was all.
[B 18:35]: That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care. You've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: no, certain staff, right, certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, when there was one.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:06]: I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Millfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah? Yes, they were boys. It was just boys? Yes, it was a boys' dorm. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up and choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime. Suppertime, we used to get— we used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end in, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine. One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams.
[B 47:55]: Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you go, you know that, no, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[A 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes. Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people have different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of people, people's not that bad, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen? You just tended yourself, actually.
[B 56:47]: Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine.
[B 60:37]: No, you're not, absolutely.
[A 60:40]: Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe, never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just, we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't. Yeah, I've got that. It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Right. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the tin. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future.
[B 78:58]: It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I don't think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022?
[A 81:44]: They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme.
[B 81:48]: That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of the year.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Right back. Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this? Aye, aye, I think it'll go. Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of March 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't so long ago that we weren't seen anymore. That would've been about 10 years old or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say— So how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt? Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it.
[B 09:54]: No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name?
[B 11:20]: Did it look— no, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, this, hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's, I believe, for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right. Don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I think. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence? Yes, it was often.
[B 16:56]: Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away? Yes, that was all.
[B 18:35]: That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care. You've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: no, certain staff, right, certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, when there was one.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:06]: I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Millfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah? Yes, they were boys. It was just boys? Yes, it was a boys' dorm. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up and choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime. Suppertime, we used to get— we used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end in, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine. One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams.
[B 47:55]: Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you go, you know that, no, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[A 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes. Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people have different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of people, people's not that bad, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen? You just tended yourself, actually.
[B 56:47]: Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine.
[B 60:37]: No, you're not, absolutely.
[A 60:40]: Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe, never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just, we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't. Yeah, I've got that. It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Right. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the tin. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future.
[B 78:58]: It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I don't think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022?
[A 81:44]: They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme.
[B 81:48]: That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of the year.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Right back. Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this? Aye, aye, I think it'll go. Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of March 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't so long ago that we weren't seen anymore. That would've been about 10 years old or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say— So how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt? Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it.
[B 09:54]: No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name?
[B 11:20]: Did it look— no, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, this, hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's, I believe, for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right. Don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I think. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence? Yes, it was often.
[B 16:56]: Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away? Yes, that was all.
[B 18:35]: That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care. You've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: no, certain staff, right, certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, when there was one.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:06]: I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Millfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah? Yes, they were boys. It was just boys? Yes, it was a boys' dorm. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up and choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime. Suppertime, we used to get— we used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end in, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine. One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams.
[B 47:55]: Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you go, you know that, no, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[A 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes. Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people have different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of people, people's not that bad, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen? You just tended yourself, actually.
[B 56:47]: Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine.
[B 60:37]: No, you're not, absolutely.
[A 60:40]: Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe, never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just, we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't. Yeah, I've got that. It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Right. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the tin. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future.
[B 78:58]: It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I don't think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022?
[A 81:44]: They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme.
[B 81:48]: That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of the year.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Right back. Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this? Aye, aye, I think it'll go. Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of March 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't so long ago that we weren't seen anymore. That would've been about 10 years old or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say— So how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt? Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it.
[B 09:54]: No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name?
[B 11:20]: Did it look— no, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, this, hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's, I believe, for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right. Don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I think. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence? Yes, it was often.
[B 16:56]: Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away? Yes, that was all.
[B 18:35]: That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care. You've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: no, certain staff, right, certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, when there was one.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:06]: I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Millfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah? Yes, they were boys. It was just boys? Yes, it was a boys' dorm. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up and choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime. Suppertime, we used to get— we used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end in, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine. One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams.
[B 47:55]: Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you go, you know that, no, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[A 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes. Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people have different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of people, people's not that bad, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen? You just tended yourself, actually.
[B 56:47]: Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine.
[B 60:37]: No, you're not, absolutely.
[A 60:40]: Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe, never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just, we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't. Yeah, I've got that. It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Right. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the tin. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future.
[B 78:58]: It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I don't think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022?
[A 81:44]: They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme.
[B 81:48]: That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of the year.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Right back. Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this? Aye, aye, I think it'll go. Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
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#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
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#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
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#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
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#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
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#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
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#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
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#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
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#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
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[2026-08-20 11:05:17] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: Uh, my granddad, when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mom was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mom ended up putting us into care because my granddad— but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway. But me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hems of it. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around, you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah, no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beach Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beach Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together? Yes, you used to do that.
[B 23:12]: Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long. Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay? Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right. You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay.
[B 25:05]: He's youngest.
[A 25:06]: Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you. That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all?
[B 26:45]: That's okay. I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family?
[B 29:12]: Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay.
[A 29:19]: What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me. And then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[B 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't?
[A 34:46]: Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. Just couldn't take the voice at all. Just couldn't really get with it. Some homes you mess in, you know, and some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to show up. If you want, I'll show up," and go out. Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory, and lunchtime there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time you used to bring your dinner, and then at supper time you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay, and were you given like a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good. Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of.
[A 39:48]: So they used to—
[B 39:49]: we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing. Yeah.
[A 40:36]: Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically. Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse? It changed for the staff.
[B 45:51]: It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrentham next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No.
[B 50:10]: No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on the shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a parcel. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there? I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place. So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing? Yes, you used to get a bus ticket.
[B 52:06]: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the on/off, it's a security limiter. Was it a secure unit?
[A 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened?
[A 62:10]: Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay. I remember that.
[B 64:53]: It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be.
[A 65:46]: What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships? I don't really have relationships, no.
[B 69:51]: I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:29]: It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just want the aid." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean.
[A 72:46]: It's kind of— No, I understand. I'd love company, to be honest with you.
[B 72:53]: I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out in kinder. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just— they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean?
[A 81:24]: Yeah, I don't think they understand that.
[B 81:27]: I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any— I've spoken for much of years. Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you? He's been there for the last year.
[B 82:43]: He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him. I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back.
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in Mother Russia, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, "Yep," and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: Uh, my granddad, when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mom was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mom ended up putting us into care because my granddad— but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway. But me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hems of it. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around, you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah, no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beach Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beach Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together? Yes, you used to do that.
[B 23:12]: Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long. Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay? Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right. You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay.
[B 25:05]: He's youngest.
[A 25:06]: Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you. That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all?
[B 26:45]: That's okay. I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family?
[B 29:12]: Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay.
[A 29:19]: What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me. And then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[B 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't?
[A 34:46]: Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. Just couldn't take the voice at all. Just couldn't really get with it. Some homes you mess in, you know, and some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to show up. If you want, I'll show up," and go out. Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory, and lunchtime there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time you used to bring your dinner, and then at supper time you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay, and were you given like a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good. Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of.
[A 39:48]: So they used to—
[B 39:49]: we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing. Yeah.
[A 40:36]: Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically. Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse? It changed for the staff.
[B 45:51]: It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrentham next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No.
[B 50:10]: No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on the shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a parcel. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there? I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place. So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing? Yes, you used to get a bus ticket.
[B 52:06]: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the on/off, it's a security limiter. Was it a secure unit?
[A 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened?
[A 62:10]: Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay. I remember that.
[B 64:53]: It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be.
[A 65:46]: What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships? I don't really have relationships, no.
[B 69:51]: I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:29]: It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just want the aid." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean.
[A 72:46]: It's kind of— No, I understand. I'd love company, to be honest with you.
[B 72:53]: I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out in kinder. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just— they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean?
[A 81:24]: Yeah, I don't think they understand that.
[B 81:27]: I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any— I've spoken for much of years. Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you? He's been there for the last year.
[B 82:43]: He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him. I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back.
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in Mother Russia, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, "Yep," and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: Uh, my granddad, when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mom was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mom ended up putting us into care because my granddad— but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway. But me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hems of it. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around, you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah, no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beach Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beach Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together? Yes, you used to do that.
[B 23:12]: Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long. Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay? Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right. You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay.
[B 25:05]: He's youngest.
[A 25:06]: Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you. That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all?
[B 26:45]: That's okay. I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family?
[B 29:12]: Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay.
[A 29:19]: What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me. And then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[B 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't?
[A 34:46]: Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. Just couldn't take the voice at all. Just couldn't really get with it. Some homes you mess in, you know, and some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to show up. If you want, I'll show up,\" and go out. Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory, and lunchtime there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time you used to bring your dinner, and then at supper time you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay, and were you given like a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good. Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of.
[A 39:48]: So they used to—
[B 39:49]: we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing. Yeah.
[A 40:36]: Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically. Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse? It changed for the staff.
[B 45:51]: It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrentham next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No.
[B 50:10]: No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on the shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a parcel. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there? I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place. So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing? Yes, you used to get a bus ticket.
[B 52:06]: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the on/off, it's a security limiter. Was it a secure unit?
[A 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened?
[A 62:10]: Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay. I remember that.
[B 64:53]: It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be.
[A 65:46]: What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships? I don't really have relationships, no.
[B 69:51]: I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:29]: It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just want the aid.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean.
[A 72:46]: It's kind of— No, I understand. I'd love company, to be honest with you.
[B 72:53]: I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out in kinder. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just— they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean?
[A 81:24]: Yeah, I don't think they understand that.
[B 81:27]: I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any— I've spoken for much of years. Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you? He's been there for the last year.
[B 82:43]: He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him. I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back.
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in Mother Russia, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, \"Yep,\" and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: Uh, my granddad, when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mom was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mom ended up putting us into care because my granddad— but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway. But me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hems of it. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around, you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah, no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beach Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beach Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together? Yes, you used to do that.
[B 23:12]: Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long. Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay? Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right. You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay.
[B 25:05]: He's youngest.
[A 25:06]: Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you. That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all?
[B 26:45]: That's okay. I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family?
[B 29:12]: Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay.
[A 29:19]: What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me. And then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[B 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't?
[A 34:46]: Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. Just couldn't take the voice at all. Just couldn't really get with it. Some homes you mess in, you know, and some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to show up. If you want, I'll show up,\" and go out. Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory, and lunchtime there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time you used to bring your dinner, and then at supper time you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay, and were you given like a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good. Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of.
[A 39:48]: So they used to—
[B 39:49]: we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing. Yeah.
[A 40:36]: Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically. Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse? It changed for the staff.
[B 45:51]: It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrentham next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No.
[B 50:10]: No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on the shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a parcel. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there? I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place. So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing? Yes, you used to get a bus ticket.
[B 52:06]: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the on/off, it's a security limiter. Was it a secure unit?
[A 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened?
[A 62:10]: Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay. I remember that.
[B 64:53]: It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be.
[A 65:46]: What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships? I don't really have relationships, no.
[B 69:51]: I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:29]: It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just want the aid.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean.
[A 72:46]: It's kind of— No, I understand. I'd love company, to be honest with you.
[B 72:53]: I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out in kinder. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just— they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean?
[A 81:24]: Yeah, I don't think they understand that.
[B 81:27]: I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any— I've spoken for much of years. Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you? He's been there for the last year.
[B 82:43]: He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him. I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back.
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in Mother Russia, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, \"Yep,\" and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#42 {main}
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[2026-08-20 11:05:24] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FA3VCNJ99WZH09336RCJ09"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:25] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FA3VCNJ99WZH09336RCJ09"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FA3VEDPB59ANB8VW5WFK86"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:25] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FA3VEDPB59ANB8VW5WFK86"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FA3VETJT59YJD8QZ75C57J"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:26] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FA3VETJT59YJD8QZ75C57J"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FA3VF9YVX5XB6803BVDFBN"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:27] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FA3VF9YVX5XB6803BVDFBN"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:27] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 11:05:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FA3VHF2TFRM67CVAEYEA12"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:27] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FA3VHF2TFRM67CVAEYEA12"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:27] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of arseholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened.
[A 20:38]: Okay.
[B 20:40]: You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of—
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherriesley. Yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah?
[B 37:37]: Yes, they were boys.
[A 37:40]: It was just boys?
[B 37:41]: Yes, it was a boys' dorm.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you know, when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips, that was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your own knee, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Renfrew next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mum phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah, no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there. Okay.
[A 56:59]: Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, 80 depois.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: 80,000.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't right in Camorris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in court.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people were in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No? Okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You shouldna. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:37]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of arseholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened.
[A 20:38]: Okay.
[B 20:40]: You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of—
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherriesley. Yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah?
[B 37:37]: Yes, they were boys.
[A 37:40]: It was just boys?
[B 37:41]: Yes, it was a boys' dorm.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you know, when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips, that was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your own knee, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Renfrew next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mum phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah, no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there. Okay.
[A 56:59]: Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, 80 depois.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: 80,000.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't right in Camorris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in court.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people were in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No? Okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You shouldna. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:37]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of arseholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened.
[A 20:38]: Okay.
[B 20:40]: You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of—
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherriesley. Yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah?
[B 37:37]: Yes, they were boys.
[A 37:40]: It was just boys?
[B 37:41]: Yes, it was a boys' dorm.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you know, when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips, that was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your own knee, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Renfrew next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mum phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah, no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there. Okay.
[A 56:59]: Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, 80 depois.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: 80,000.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't right in Camorris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in court.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people were in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No? Okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You shouldna. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:37]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of arseholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened.
[A 20:38]: Okay.
[B 20:40]: You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of—
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right?
[A 23:44]: Yeah.
[B 23:44]: I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long.
[A 23:58]: Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherriesley. Yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: Yeah, the staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah?
[B 37:37]: Yes, they were boys.
[A 37:40]: It was just boys?
[B 37:41]: Yes, it was a boys' dorm.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you know, when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips, that was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your own knee, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Renfrew next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mum phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah, no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there. Okay.
[A 56:59]: Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo football club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, 80 depois.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: 80,000.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't right in Camorris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in court.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent, okay.
[B 68:33]: I get medication off the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people were in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely.
[B 81:51]: And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No? Okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You shouldna. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:37]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `sentiment_data` = [{\"sentiment\":\"NEUTRAL\",\"speaker\":\"A\",\"text\":\"Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop?\",\"start\":2858,\"end\":4709,\"confidence\":0.91480229999999995715853629008051939308643341064453125},{\"sentiment\":\"NEUTRAL\",\"speaker\":\"A\",\"text\":\"Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement.\",\"start\":6220,\"end\":9734,\"confidence\":0.92980490000000004524594032773165963590145111083984375},{\"sentiment\":\"NEUTRAL\",\"speaker\":\"A\",\"text\":\"Is now still a good time for you?\",\"start\":9782,\"end\":11233,\"confidence\":0.62066776000000001278777972402167506515979766845703125},{\"sentiment\":\"NEUTRAL\",\"speaker\":\"B\",\"text\":\"Yes, it 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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
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#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
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#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
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#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
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#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
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[2026-08-20 11:05:34] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of March 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't so long ago that we weren't seen anymore. That would've been about 10 years old or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say— So how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt? Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it.
[B 09:54]: No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name?
[B 11:20]: Did it look— no, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, this, hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's, I believe, for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right. Don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I think. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence? Yes, it was often.
[B 16:56]: Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away? Yes, that was all.
[B 18:35]: That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care. You've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: no, certain staff, right, certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, when there was one.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:06]: I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Millfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah? Yes, they were boys. It was just boys? Yes, it was a boys' dorm. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up and choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime. Suppertime, we used to get— we used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end in, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine. One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams.
[B 47:55]: Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you go, you know that, no, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[A 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes. Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people have different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of people, people's not that bad, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen? You just tended yourself, actually.
[B 56:47]: Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine.
[B 60:37]: No, you're not, absolutely.
[A 60:40]: Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe, never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just, we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't. Yeah, I've got that. It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Right. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the tin. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future.
[B 78:58]: It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I don't think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022?
[A 81:44]: They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme.
[B 81:48]: That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of the year.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Right back. Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this? Aye, aye, I think it'll go. Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of March 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't so long ago that we weren't seen anymore. That would've been about 10 years old or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say— So how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt? Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it.
[B 09:54]: No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name?
[B 11:20]: Did it look— no, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, this, hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's, I believe, for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right. Don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I think. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence? Yes, it was often.
[B 16:56]: Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away? Yes, that was all.
[B 18:35]: That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care. You've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: no, certain staff, right, certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, when there was one.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:06]: I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Millfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah? Yes, they were boys. It was just boys? Yes, it was a boys' dorm. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up and choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime. Suppertime, we used to get— we used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end in, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine. One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams.
[B 47:55]: Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you go, you know that, no, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[A 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes. Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people have different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of people, people's not that bad, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen? You just tended yourself, actually.
[B 56:47]: Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine.
[B 60:37]: No, you're not, absolutely.
[A 60:40]: Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe, never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just, we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't. Yeah, I've got that. It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Right. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the tin. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future.
[B 78:58]: It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I don't think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022?
[A 81:44]: They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme.
[B 81:48]: That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of the year.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Right back. Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this? Aye, aye, I think it'll go. Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of March 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't so long ago that we weren't seen anymore. That would've been about 10 years old or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say— So how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt? Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it.
[B 09:54]: No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name?
[B 11:20]: Did it look— no, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, this, hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's, I believe, for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right. Don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I think. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence? Yes, it was often.
[B 16:56]: Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away? Yes, that was all.
[B 18:35]: That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care. You've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: no, certain staff, right, certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, when there was one.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:06]: I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Millfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah? Yes, they were boys. It was just boys? Yes, it was a boys' dorm. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up and choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime. Suppertime, we used to get— we used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end in, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine. One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams.
[B 47:55]: Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you go, you know that, no, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[A 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes. Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people have different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of people, people's not that bad, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen? You just tended yourself, actually.
[B 56:47]: Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine.
[B 60:37]: No, you're not, absolutely.
[A 60:40]: Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe, never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just, we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't. Yeah, I've got that. It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Right. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the tin. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future.
[B 78:58]: It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I don't think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022?
[A 81:44]: They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme.
[B 81:48]: That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of the year.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Right back. Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this? Aye, aye, I think it'll go. Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of March 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgermere, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put in care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't so long ago that we weren't seen anymore. That would've been about 10 years old or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say— So how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt? Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it.
[B 09:54]: No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name?
[B 11:20]: Did it look— no, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Yeah, this, hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's, I believe, for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right. Don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I think. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that.
[A 16:39]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence? Yes, it was often.
[B 16:56]: Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away? Yes, that was all.
[B 18:35]: That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care. You've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: no, certain staff, right, certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, when there was one.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:06]: I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Millfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes.
[B 35:18]: Okay.
[A 35:20]: Did you tell anyone what's happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males, yeah? Yes, they were boys. It was just boys? Yes, it was a boys' dorm. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom, yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up and choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime. Suppertime, we used to get— we used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of had no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end in, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine. One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams.
[B 47:55]: Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you go, you know that, no, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[A 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes. Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people have different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that people might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of people, people's not that bad, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen? You just tended yourself, actually.
[B 56:47]: Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine.
[B 60:37]: No, you're not, absolutely.
[A 60:40]: Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe, never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just, we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't. Yeah, I've got that. It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Right. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the tin. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future.
[B 78:58]: It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I don't think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, belty, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022?
[A 81:44]: They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme.
[B 81:48]: That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of the year.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Right back. Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this? Aye, aye, I think it'll go. Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#42 {main}
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[2026-08-20 11:05:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:35] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 11:05:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FA3VHF2TFRM67CVAEYEA12"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:35] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: Uh, my granddad, when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mom was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mom ended up putting us into care because my granddad— but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway. But me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hems of it. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around, you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah, no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beach Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beach Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together? Yes, you used to do that.
[B 23:12]: Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long. Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay? Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right. You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay.
[B 25:05]: He's youngest.
[A 25:06]: Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you. That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all?
[B 26:45]: That's okay. I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family?
[B 29:12]: Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay.
[A 29:19]: What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me. And then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[B 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't?
[A 34:46]: Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. Just couldn't take the voice at all. Just couldn't really get with it. Some homes you mess in, you know, and some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to show up. If you want, I'll show up," and go out. Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory, and lunchtime there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time you used to bring your dinner, and then at supper time you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay, and were you given like a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good. Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of.
[A 39:48]: So they used to—
[B 39:49]: we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing. Yeah.
[A 40:36]: Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically. Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse? It changed for the staff.
[B 45:51]: It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrentham next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No.
[B 50:10]: No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on the shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a parcel. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there? I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place. So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing? Yes, you used to get a bus ticket.
[B 52:06]: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the on/off, it's a security limiter. Was it a secure unit?
[A 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened?
[A 62:10]: Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay. I remember that.
[B 64:53]: It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be.
[A 65:46]: What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships? I don't really have relationships, no.
[B 69:51]: I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:29]: It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just want the aid." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean.
[A 72:46]: It's kind of— No, I understand. I'd love company, to be honest with you.
[B 72:53]: I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out in kinder. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just— they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean?
[A 81:24]: Yeah, I don't think they understand that.
[B 81:27]: I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any— I've spoken for much of years. Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you? He's been there for the last year.
[B 82:43]: He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him. I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back.
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in Mother Russia, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, "Yep," and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: Uh, my granddad, when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mom was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mom ended up putting us into care because my granddad— but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway. But me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hems of it. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around, you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah, no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beach Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beach Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together? Yes, you used to do that.
[B 23:12]: Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long. Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay? Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right. You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay.
[B 25:05]: He's youngest.
[A 25:06]: Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you. That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all?
[B 26:45]: That's okay. I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family?
[B 29:12]: Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay.
[A 29:19]: What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me. And then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[B 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't?
[A 34:46]: Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. Just couldn't take the voice at all. Just couldn't really get with it. Some homes you mess in, you know, and some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to show up. If you want, I'll show up," and go out. Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory, and lunchtime there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time you used to bring your dinner, and then at supper time you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay, and were you given like a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good. Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of.
[A 39:48]: So they used to—
[B 39:49]: we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing. Yeah.
[A 40:36]: Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically. Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse? It changed for the staff.
[B 45:51]: It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrentham next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No.
[B 50:10]: No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on the shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a parcel. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there? I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place. So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing? Yes, you used to get a bus ticket.
[B 52:06]: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the on/off, it's a security limiter. Was it a secure unit?
[A 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened?
[A 62:10]: Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay. I remember that.
[B 64:53]: It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be.
[A 65:46]: What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships? I don't really have relationships, no.
[B 69:51]: I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:29]: It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just want the aid." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean.
[A 72:46]: It's kind of— No, I understand. I'd love company, to be honest with you.
[B 72:53]: I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out in kinder. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just— they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean?
[A 81:24]: Yeah, I don't think they understand that.
[B 81:27]: I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any— I've spoken for much of years. Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you? He's been there for the last year.
[B 82:43]: He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him. I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back.
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in Mother Russia, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, "Yep," and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: Uh, my granddad, when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mom was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mom ended up putting us into care because my granddad— but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway. But me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hems of it. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around, you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah, no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beach Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beach Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together? Yes, you used to do that.
[B 23:12]: Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long. Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay? Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right. You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay.
[B 25:05]: He's youngest.
[A 25:06]: Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you. That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all?
[B 26:45]: That's okay. I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family?
[B 29:12]: Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay.
[A 29:19]: What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me. And then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[B 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't?
[A 34:46]: Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. Just couldn't take the voice at all. Just couldn't really get with it. Some homes you mess in, you know, and some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to show up. If you want, I'll show up,\" and go out. Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory, and lunchtime there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time you used to bring your dinner, and then at supper time you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay, and were you given like a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good. Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of.
[A 39:48]: So they used to—
[B 39:49]: we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing. Yeah.
[A 40:36]: Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically. Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse? It changed for the staff.
[B 45:51]: It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrentham next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No.
[B 50:10]: No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on the shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a parcel. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there? I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place. So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing? Yes, you used to get a bus ticket.
[B 52:06]: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the on/off, it's a security limiter. Was it a secure unit?
[A 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened?
[A 62:10]: Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay. I remember that.
[B 64:53]: It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be.
[A 65:46]: What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships? I don't really have relationships, no.
[B 69:51]: I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:29]: It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just want the aid.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean.
[A 72:46]: It's kind of— No, I understand. I'd love company, to be honest with you.
[B 72:53]: I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out in kinder. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just— they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean?
[A 81:24]: Yeah, I don't think they understand that.
[B 81:27]: I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any— I've spoken for much of years. Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you? He's been there for the last year.
[B 82:43]: He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him. I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back.
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in Mother Russia, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, \"Yep,\" and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: Uh, my granddad, when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mom was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mom ended up putting us into care because my granddad— but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway. But me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated. We were separated, so I never really seen them. I never seen any more. I'd say about 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors. It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set numbers, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hems of it. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around, you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah, no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beach Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beach Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together? Yes, you used to do that.
[B 23:12]: Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long. Okay.
[B 23:59]: Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay? Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right. You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay.
[B 25:05]: He's youngest.
[A 25:06]: Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you. That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all?
[B 26:45]: That's okay. I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae, no.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family?
[B 29:12]: Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay.
[A 29:19]: What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no.
[A 31:24]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me. And then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[B 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't?
[A 34:46]: Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. Just couldn't take the voice at all. Just couldn't really get with it. Some homes you mess in, you know, and some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah. So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to show up. If you want, I'll show up,\" and go out. Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory, and lunchtime there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time you used to bring your dinner, and then at supper time you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay, and were you given like a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good. Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of.
[A 39:48]: So they used to—
[B 39:49]: we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing. Yeah.
[A 40:36]: Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically. Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse? It changed for the staff.
[B 45:51]: It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrentham next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No.
[B 50:10]: No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on the shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a parcel. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there? I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place. So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing? Yes, you used to get a bus ticket.
[B 52:06]: Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the on/off, it's a security limiter. Was it a secure unit?
[A 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:17]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to. Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right. In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St.
[A 58:17]: Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[B 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it. Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened?
[A 62:10]: Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay. I remember that.
[B 64:53]: It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be.
[A 65:46]: What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuckin' just— that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships? I don't really have relationships, no.
[B 69:51]: I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all, 'cause I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:29]: It affects your confidence, actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried workin' a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just want the aid.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean.
[A 72:46]: It's kind of— No, I understand. I'd love company, to be honest with you.
[B 72:53]: I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out in kinder. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just— they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean?
[A 81:24]: Yeah, I don't think they understand that.
[B 81:27]: I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any— I've spoken for much of years. Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's quite fine.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you? He's been there for the last year.
[B 82:43]: He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you? I won the last one, won the weekend off. You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him. I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back.
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in Mother Russia, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, \"Yep,\" and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
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#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#42 {main}
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[2026-08-20 11:05:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FA3VCNJ99WZH09336RCJ09"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FA3VEDPB59ANB8VW5WFK86"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FA3VETJT59YJD8QZ75C57J"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FA3VF9YVX5XB6803BVDFBN"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FA3VHF2TFRM67CVAEYEA12"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FA3VJDHPVHYFVSDR0PYPD3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FA3VJZG4V8RPNCF5M5FKQG"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FA3VJDHPVHYFVSDR0PYPD3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:41] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FA3VJZG4V8RPNCF5M5FKQG"} 
[2026-08-20 11:05:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 11:06:05] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4357 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 11:06:05] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4357 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 11:06:06] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4357. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 11:06:06] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4357 — too short to classify (duration=27s, words=90).  
[2026-08-20 11:06:25] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA1ab40c0357f95c06418ffdca27dad018","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6294"} 
[2026-08-20 11:06:25] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6294,"CallSid":"CA1ab40c0357f95c06418ffdca27dad018","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA1ab40c0357f95c06418ffdca27dad018","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6294"}} 
[2026-08-20 11:07:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 11:08:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 11:09:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 11:10:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 11:10:17] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-4f271a75-7e9b-4b56-ae80-9496d004d259.pdf  
[2026-08-20 11:10:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 11:11:09] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19719 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 11:11:09] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19719 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260820-8C1C67' → DSAR 4312.  
[2026-08-20 11:11:11] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19719 response_type=acknowledgement.  
[2026-08-20 11:11:11] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19719 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=4312).  
[2026-08-20 11:11:11] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19719 auto-set DSAR 4312 status → acknowledged (response_type=acknowledgement).  
[2026-08-20 11:13:00] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA6f6a4eb57b53aa79c11034996b823055","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6295"} 
[2026-08-20 11:13:00] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6295,"CallSid":"CA6f6a4eb57b53aa79c11034996b823055","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA6f6a4eb57b53aa79c11034996b823055","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6295"}} 
[2026-08-20 11:14:01] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4358 → AssemblyAI 4821a3cc-18d3-4309-b95b-cfe6189ebc7f  
[2026-08-20 11:15:02] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4358 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 11:15:02] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4358 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 11:15:03] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4358. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 11:15:04] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4358  
[2026-08-20 11:17:09] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":"Edinburgh","ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA20633584ffb9c1b574f8c4e8c75dbfdc","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0EyMDYzMzU4NGZmYjljMWI1NzRmOGM0ZThjNzVkYmZkYyIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQxMzEzMzI3Njk2IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIyMTAyOCJ9.g5V7viUtXRHC0xv91RMlJ5KxDlGV7UfR2nYSlxbTHbiDuS3ANMnBq0-Ra7mKdz_jhGR0hThuWDPSJWTjhloOQw%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+441313327696","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+441313327696","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":"Edinburgh"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKGRN7VT95W3CQHHP84M"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:30] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKGRN7VT95W3CQHHP84M"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKJSMDF78FJWS6XDJVA8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:31] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKJSMDF78FJWS6XDJVA8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKKGQRTKVGTYBZ9E36QK"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:32] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKKGQRTKVGTYBZ9E36QK"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKM2GXBG08P5PF2GS5S8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:32] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKM2GXBG08P5PF2GS5S8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKPW0PH96H6NKM0TFBT3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:33] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKPW0PH96H6NKM0TFBT3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:34] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKQWXD7XQE1TFNSG87P3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:34] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKQWXD7XQE1TFNSG87P3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:34] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKRFWQN210DDP436Z828"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:34] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKRFWQN210DDP436Z828"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:41] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKGRN7VT95W3CQHHP84M"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:41] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKGRN7VT95W3CQHHP84M"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:42] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKJSMDF78FJWS6XDJVA8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:42] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKJSMDF78FJWS6XDJVA8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:42] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKKGQRTKVGTYBZ9E36QK"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:42] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKKGQRTKVGTYBZ9E36QK"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:43] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKM2GXBG08P5PF2GS5S8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:43] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKM2GXBG08P5PF2GS5S8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:44] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKPW0PH96H6NKM0TFBT3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:44] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKPW0PH96H6NKM0TFBT3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:44] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKQWXD7XQE1TFNSG87P3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:44] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKQWXD7XQE1TFNSG87P3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:48] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKRFWQN210DDP436Z828"} 
[2026-08-20 11:19:48] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKRFWQN210DDP436Z828"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:43] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKGRN7VT95W3CQHHP84M"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:43] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKGRN7VT95W3CQHHP84M"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:43] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKJSMDF78FJWS6XDJVA8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:43] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKJSMDF78FJWS6XDJVA8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:44] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKKGQRTKVGTYBZ9E36QK"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:44] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKKGQRTKVGTYBZ9E36QK"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:45] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKM2GXBG08P5PF2GS5S8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:45] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKM2GXBG08P5PF2GS5S8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:45] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKPW0PH96H6NKM0TFBT3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:45] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKPW0PH96H6NKM0TFBT3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:46] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKQWXD7XQE1TFNSG87P3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:46] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKQWXD7XQE1TFNSG87P3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:50] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKRFWQN210DDP436Z828"} 
[2026-08-20 11:20:50] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FAXKRFWQN210DDP436Z828"} 
[2026-08-20 11:21:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 11:21:53] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA20633584ffb9c1b574f8c4e8c75dbfdc","DialCallSid":"CA31c194b0077bf6b36f50262f91c1ed7e","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"271"} 
[2026-08-20 11:21:58] production.INFO: eSign signing-link email: firing trigger (single request link) {"contract_request_id":1037,"documents":7,"has_signing_url":true} 
[2026-08-20 11:21:59] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FAXKGRN7VT95W3CQHHP84M"} 
[2026-08-20 11:22:00] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FAXKJSMDF78FJWS6XDJVA8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:22:01] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FAXKKGQRTKVGTYBZ9E36QK"} 
[2026-08-20 11:22:01] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FAXKM2GXBG08P5PF2GS5S8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:22:02] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FAXKPW0PH96H6NKM0TFBT3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:22:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FAXKQWXD7XQE1TFNSG87P3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:22:04] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FAXKRFWQN210DDP436Z828"} 
[2026-08-20 11:22:07] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4359 → AssemblyAI 3cff4db9-937d-4295-86a4-1becee739e30  
[2026-08-20 11:23:06] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4360 → AssemblyAI 0e3badeb-2f29-4540-81e8-b5197f801445  
[2026-08-20 11:23:08] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4359 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 11:23:08] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4359 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 11:23:08] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4359. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 11:23:08] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 4359.  
[2026-08-20 11:24:07] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4360 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 11:24:07] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4360 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 11:24:08] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4360. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 11:24:08] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: recording 4360 marked 'initial' by agent disposition; skipping classifier.  
[2026-08-20 11:24:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 11:24:27] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":"Edinburgh","ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA0066db4aabb25d00947436063cef2f22","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0EwMDY2ZGI0YWFiYjI1ZDAwOTQ3NDM2MDYzY2VmMmYyMiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQxMzEzMzI3Njk2IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIyMTQ2NiJ9.Oa8AU8xSOfi70ja8Et2Q2hjF94Bj2cagcsdd-Y8vNkgJG_vlEvCA5YKRtRK8DtmtIW21E2iHOliuelIm_g36ng%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+441313327696","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+441313327696","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":"Edinburgh"} 
[2026-08-20 11:24:34] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAd9f29fbe705f1496d254e7f25efd3514","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6298"} 
[2026-08-20 11:24:34] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6298,"CallSid":"CAd9f29fbe705f1496d254e7f25efd3514","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAd9f29fbe705f1496d254e7f25efd3514","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6298"}} 
[2026-08-20 11:25:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 11:25:06] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 4360. {"total_score":80,"risk_rating":"acceptable","has_sections":true} 
[2026-08-20 11:25:43] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKGRN7VT95W3CQHHP84M"} 
[2026-08-20 11:25:44] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKJSMDF78FJWS6XDJVA8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:25:45] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKKGQRTKVGTYBZ9E36QK"} 
[2026-08-20 11:25:46] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKM2GXBG08P5PF2GS5S8"} 
[2026-08-20 11:25:46] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKPW0PH96H6NKM0TFBT3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:25:47] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKQWXD7XQE1TFNSG87P3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:25:48] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA2a3321c446da864ae95a3d7c94a0c03a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6299"} 
[2026-08-20 11:25:48] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6299,"CallSid":"CA2a3321c446da864ae95a3d7c94a0c03a","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA2a3321c446da864ae95a3d7c94a0c03a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6299"}} 
[2026-08-20 11:25:51] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FAXKRFWQN210DDP436Z828"} 
[2026-08-20 11:26:23] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAbc1aed377b702ecec624681bf624aa26","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6300"} 
[2026-08-20 11:26:23] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6300,"CallSid":"CAbc1aed377b702ecec624681bf624aa26","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAbc1aed377b702ecec624681bf624aa26","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6300"}} 
[2026-08-20 11:27:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 11:27:07] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA0066db4aabb25d00947436063cef2f22","DialCallSid":"CA9de87a339528c20d557fb3de6da0036d","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"153"} 
[2026-08-20 11:27:09] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAde665ede075e928e4cad0f0ed47d581a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6301"} 
[2026-08-20 11:27:09] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6301,"CallSid":"CAde665ede075e928e4cad0f0ed47d581a","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAde665ede075e928e4cad0f0ed47d581a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6301"}} 
[2026-08-20 11:27:17] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4361 → AssemblyAI deb00da8-91f3-4d33-9db0-d4461293a42a  
[2026-08-20 11:27:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 11:27:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 11:27:50] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4362 → AssemblyAI 226c825e-4d34-4670-9ff5-8e06e2672fb6  
[2026-08-20 11:28:17] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4361 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 11:28:17] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4361 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 11:28:18] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4361. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 11:28:18] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 4361.  
[2026-08-20 11:28:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 11:28:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 11:28:51] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4362 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 11:28:51] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4362 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 11:28:51] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4362. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 11:28:51] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4362 — too short to classify (duration=16s, words=40).  
[2026-08-20 11:29:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 11:29:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 11:29:42] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-5b01be59-c384-48ae-8edd-e9de85de5863.pdf  
[2026-08-20 11:29:45] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-9507d910-e313-4192-a9d0-d61b47d8e171.pdf  
[2026-08-20 11:29:48] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-cca5cc04-b9b3-4009-abd1-1eda9fa8747b.pdf  
[2026-08-20 11:29:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 11:34:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 11:50:02] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19735 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 11:50:02] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19735 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260731-A8F385' → DSAR 4152.  
[2026-08-20 11:50:04] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19735 response_type=info_requested.  
[2026-08-20 11:50:04] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19735 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=info_requested, dsar_id=4152).  
[2026-08-20 11:50:04] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19735 auto-set DSAR 4152 status → further info required (response_type=info_requested).  
[2026-08-20 11:54:08] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA1e90db91146e0608af8762109ee74266","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0ExZTkwZGI5MTE0NmUwNjA4YWY4NzYyMTA5ZWU3NDI2NiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3OTA4ODk0NDUyIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIyMzI0OCJ9.SQjo7RPEDHZwrdVp5aK2AR5ZBRIKVeCTkYnFX9qs-U5Xw-TjMW6OjeOOz-KwWEto22QCVex3Ueq0p9lATNQzdQ%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447908894452","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447908894452","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 11:54:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 11:54:16] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAb27b73d9a6857a0444a9f71a55fad2f6","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6303"} 
[2026-08-20 11:54:16] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6303,"CallSid":"CAb27b73d9a6857a0444a9f71a55fad2f6","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAb27b73d9a6857a0444a9f71a55fad2f6","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6303"}} 
[2026-08-20 11:54:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 11:54:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 11:55:05] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4363 → AssemblyAI 7b1bed91-6c5c-406f-8f6a-20f20c400125  
[2026-08-20 11:55:38] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11757 (WS File 2.pdf).  
[2026-08-20 11:55:41] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19738 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 11:55:42] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19738 — dsar_ref='DSAR-20260608-UNKNOWN', inst_ref='202601022'.  
[2026-08-20 11:55:50] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19738 — AI matcher dsar_id=2899, confidence=high.  
[2026-08-20 11:55:50] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19738 linked to DSAR 2899.  
[2026-08-20 11:55:50] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference '202601022' for DSAR 2899.  
[2026-08-20 11:55:52] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19738 response_type=partial_data.  
[2026-08-20 11:55:52] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19738 → triage_queue=dsar_evidence (response_type=partial_data, dsar_id=2899).  
[2026-08-20 11:55:52] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11757 — pages=0, large=no.  
[2026-08-20 11:56:05] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4363 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 11:56:05] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4363 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 11:56:06] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4363. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 11:56:06] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4363 — too short to classify (duration=18s, words=66).  
[2026-08-20 11:56:07] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA3293342744f9aef29b609325ebd420c5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6304"} 
[2026-08-20 11:56:07] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6304,"CallSid":"CA3293342744f9aef29b609325ebd420c5","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA3293342744f9aef29b609325ebd420c5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6304"}} 
[2026-08-20 11:56:10] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11757 — file=WS File 2.pdf, is_dsar_document=1, confidence=high.  
[2026-08-20 11:56:11] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"Rm2+NmTD90zB3s8qfts8HgEiAjQ=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 11:56:15] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11757 — file=WS File 2.pdf, AI filter: 21 relevant of 24.  
[2026-08-20 11:56:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 11:57:09] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11757 — file=WS File 2.pdf, extraction produced 21 item(s).  
[2026-08-20 11:57:11] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11757 — care-setting tagger suggested 4 tag(s).  
[2026-08-20 11:57:11] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11757 — done, 21 total evidence items.  
[2026-08-20 11:57:33] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA1e90db91146e0608af8762109ee74266","DialCallSid":"CAbbc7cf8093bb5087a60867efe02fedab","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"198"} 
[2026-08-20 11:57:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 11:57:44] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11758 (WS File 3.pdf).  
[2026-08-20 11:57:45] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11759 (WS File 4.pdf).  
[2026-08-20 11:57:45] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4364 → AssemblyAI 812b46ad-1f4e-4c55-ba83-19e7123e4193  
[2026-08-20 11:57:47] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19741 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 11:57:48] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAc060ab3ae8951b4920727cb6888b2a74","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6305"} 
[2026-08-20 11:57:48] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6305,"CallSid":"CAc060ab3ae8951b4920727cb6888b2a74","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAc060ab3ae8951b4920727cb6888b2a74","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6305"}} 
[2026-08-20 11:57:48] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19741 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='100857'.  
[2026-08-20 11:57:48] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19741 matched DSAR 2891 via reference lookup (100857).  
[2026-08-20 11:57:48] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference '100857' for DSAR 2891.  
[2026-08-20 11:57:50] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19741 response_type=acknowledgement.  
[2026-08-20 11:57:50] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19741 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=2891).  
[2026-08-20 11:58:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 11:58:17] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4365 → AssemblyAI b82a19dd-e916-49b4-a03e-5102b536d777  
[2026-08-20 11:58:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 11:58:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 11:58:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 11:58:46] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4364 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 11:58:46] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4364 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 11:58:46] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4364. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 11:58:46] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 4364.  
[2026-08-20 11:59:17] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4365 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 11:59:17] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4365 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 11:59:17] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4365. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 11:59:18] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4365 — too short to classify (duration=20s, words=40).  
[2026-08-20 11:59:18] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11760 (WS File 5.pdf).  
[2026-08-20 11:59:20] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19744 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 11:59:21] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19744 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='100857'.  
[2026-08-20 11:59:21] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19744 matched DSAR 2891 via reference lookup (100857).  
[2026-08-20 11:59:21] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference '100857' for DSAR 2891.  
[2026-08-20 11:59:24] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19744 response_type=partial_data.  
[2026-08-20 11:59:24] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19744 → triage_queue=dsar_evidence (response_type=partial_data, dsar_id=2891).  
[2026-08-20 11:59:24] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11760 — pages=0, large=no.  
[2026-08-20 11:59:42] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11760 — file=WS File 5.pdf, is_dsar_document=1, confidence=high.  
[2026-08-20 11:59:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 11:59:47] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11760 — file=WS File 5.pdf, AI filter: 30 relevant of 32.  
[2026-08-20 11:59:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 11:59:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 12:00:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:00:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:00:43] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11760 — file=WS File 5.pdf, extraction produced 22 item(s).  
[2026-08-20 12:00:44] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11760 — care-setting tagger suggested 0 tag(s).  
[2026-08-20 12:00:44] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11760 — done, 22 total evidence items.  
[2026-08-20 12:01:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 12:01:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:01:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:01:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 12:02:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:02:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 12:02:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 12:02:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 12:03:03] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA8b93f7230ad637ea6fd767135fdff30b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6306"} 
[2026-08-20 12:03:03] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6306,"CallSid":"CA8b93f7230ad637ea6fd767135fdff30b","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA8b93f7230ad637ea6fd767135fdff30b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6306"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:03:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:03:49] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA6122f60be9de83bd5efa0f37fd3bda26","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6307"} 
[2026-08-20 12:03:49] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6307,"CallSid":"CA6122f60be9de83bd5efa0f37fd3bda26","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA6122f60be9de83bd5efa0f37fd3bda26","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6307"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:03:53] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4366 → AssemblyAI 4c60bad0-4dfb-44c5-97ea-71cc305e723f  
[2026-08-20 12:03:59] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA90da183363ac2c363271cbed56c08a31","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6308"} 
[2026-08-20 12:03:59] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6308,"CallSid":"CA90da183363ac2c363271cbed56c08a31","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA90da183363ac2c363271cbed56c08a31","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6308"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:04:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:04:38] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4367 → AssemblyAI 401cb585-baff-4de3-8109-cb36b423dcd7  
[2026-08-20 12:04:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:04:50] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA2dacd0fd649973a2453182cf15232520","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6309"} 
[2026-08-20 12:04:50] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6309,"CallSid":"CA2dacd0fd649973a2453182cf15232520","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA2dacd0fd649973a2453182cf15232520","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6309"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:04:53] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4366 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:04:53] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4366 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:04:54] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4366. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:04:55] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4366  
[2026-08-20 12:04:56] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4368 → AssemblyAI 937aa164-5b7a-43de-9841-40695204f510  
[2026-08-20 12:05:30] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4369 → AssemblyAI b714dc26-fcf6-45c1-9ec0-709cfae8ce10  
[2026-08-20 12:05:39] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4367 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:05:39] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4367 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:05:39] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4367. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:05:39] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4367 — too short to classify (duration=22s, words=62).  
[2026-08-20 12:05:41] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAf89e5a5873e207644b0d27d2545b51c6","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6310"} 
[2026-08-20 12:05:41] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6310,"CallSid":"CAf89e5a5873e207644b0d27d2545b51c6","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAf89e5a5873e207644b0d27d2545b51c6","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6310"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:05:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 12:05:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 12:05:57] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4368 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:05:57] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4368 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:05:58] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4368. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:05:59] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4368  
[2026-08-20 12:06:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:06:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 12:06:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:06:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 12:06:31] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4369 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:06:31] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4369 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:06:32] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4369. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:06:32] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4369 — too short to classify (duration=25s, words=67).  
[2026-08-20 12:06:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 12:06:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:07:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:07:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:07:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:08:04] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA91211fbf8609b137fe5b4f373979be8b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6311"} 
[2026-08-20 12:08:04] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6311,"CallSid":"CA91211fbf8609b137fe5b4f373979be8b","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA91211fbf8609b137fe5b4f373979be8b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6311"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:08:14] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA084e64ae1deb8a93c6549274bce790e9","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0EwODRlNjRhZTFkZWI4YTkzYzY1NDkyNzRiY2U3OTBlOSIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3OTM4NTQ0Mzg5IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIyNDA5MyJ9.VaCBe-UahhSpx41zdC4IXYHoIK_gGZpTI84uM5sbphE0xlVFHflBnSY6uOox97EekwTiLpF8U2HFVMhmITFjUw%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447938544389","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447938544389","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 12:08:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:08:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:08:36] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4370 → AssemblyAI 22c1f6d4-59ec-46cb-988c-990f30c5e1a0  
[2026-08-20 12:08:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 12:08:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:09:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:09:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:09:08] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11761 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 12:09:08] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11762 (image002.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 12:09:10] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA28c770e27f4ac3744184865b06ea8d82","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6313"} 
[2026-08-20 12:09:10] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6313,"CallSid":"CA28c770e27f4ac3744184865b06ea8d82","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA28c770e27f4ac3744184865b06ea8d82","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6313"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:09:12] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19756 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 12:09:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:09:37] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4370 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:09:37] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4370 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:09:37] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4370. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:09:37] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4370 — too short to classify (duration=22s, words=59).  
[2026-08-20 12:09:42] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:09:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:10:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:10:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:10:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:10:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 12:10:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:10:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:11:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 12:11:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 12:11:31] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19756 (client 1553, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 12:11:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 12:11:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 12:12:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 12:12:17] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA084e64ae1deb8a93c6549274bce790e9","DialCallSid":"CAe4e3f57898b50a59dc54cbf818345bea","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"238"} 
[2026-08-20 12:12:29] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4371 → AssemblyAI 1a9b0ca3-d72b-4e55-84e0-0773bbc38645  
[2026-08-20 12:12:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 12:13:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 12:13:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 12:13:29] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4371 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:13:29] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4371 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:13:30] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4371. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:13:31] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=initial for recording 4371  
[2026-08-20 12:14:11] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 4371. {"total_score":10,"risk_rating":"high_risk","has_sections":true} 
[2026-08-20 12:14:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 12:15:31] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4372 → AssemblyAI 3617ae5a-83ce-42b7-8db5-db2ba81af9fe  
[2026-08-20 12:16:16] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAe6de55877d32432a70a89d2a07945fbd","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6314"} 
[2026-08-20 12:16:16] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6314,"CallSid":"CAe6de55877d32432a70a89d2a07945fbd","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAe6de55877d32432a70a89d2a07945fbd","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6314"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:16:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 12:16:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 12:16:32] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4372 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:16:32] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4372 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:16:33] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4372. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:16:33] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 4372.  
[2026-08-20 12:17:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 12:18:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 12:18:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 12:18:23] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-08dc7f64-1f6d-49f5-a29a-827ef6548a44.pdf  
[2026-08-20 12:18:26] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-470dccb6-0c17-45a2-abdc-93e8bd907bcf.pdf  
[2026-08-20 12:18:29] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-b611a245-03f9-4fc2-a786-2457b01999d8.pdf  
[2026-08-20 12:18:32] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-9d801ed7-d0f3-4ab5-8429-21fb03e5c6a1.pdf  
[2026-08-20 12:18:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 12:18:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 12:18:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 12:18:57] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-7a1d5e38-988d-4d36-9b60-36b335a11285.pdf  
[2026-08-20 12:18:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 12:19:11] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11769 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 12:19:11] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11770 (SAR Solicitor Aknowledgement letter.docx).  
[2026-08-20 12:19:14] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19760 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 12:19:16] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19760 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='IG261767'.  
[2026-08-20 12:19:29] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19760 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low.  
[2026-08-20 12:19:29] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19760 — extracted reference 'IG261767' but no DSAR matched.  
[2026-08-20 12:19:32] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19760 response_type=acknowledgement.  
[2026-08-20 12:19:32] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19760 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=none).  
[2026-08-20 12:19:50] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19761 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 12:19:50] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19761 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260820-5F0BCD' → DSAR 4318.  
[2026-08-20 12:19:52] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19761 response_type=acknowledgement.  
[2026-08-20 12:19:52] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19761 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=4318).  
[2026-08-20 12:19:52] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19761 auto-set DSAR 4318 status → acknowledged (response_type=acknowledgement).  
[2026-08-20 12:19:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 12:21:02] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19762 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 12:21:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 12:22:08] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA5f361d7d5fe89ce20b0d3823ed60e43f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6315"} 
[2026-08-20 12:22:08] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6315,"CallSid":"CA5f361d7d5fe89ce20b0d3823ed60e43f","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA5f361d7d5fe89ce20b0d3823ed60e43f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6315"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:22:50] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4373 → AssemblyAI 394d7fb2-0c08-4fde-9efa-bd76e5950249  
[2026-08-20 12:23:06] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4374 → AssemblyAI 8f11e06c-1731-45e3-9707-88e7d951c637  
[2026-08-20 12:23:16] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAcd1c6c70bbb65ce0b079d351158c36b2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6316"} 
[2026-08-20 12:23:16] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6316,"CallSid":"CAcd1c6c70bbb65ce0b079d351158c36b2","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAcd1c6c70bbb65ce0b079d351158c36b2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6316"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:23:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:23:38] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11771 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 12:23:38] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11772 (SAR Solicitor Aknowledgement letter.docx).  
[2026-08-20 12:23:40] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19766 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 12:23:42] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19766 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='IG261768'.  
[2026-08-20 12:23:51] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4373 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:23:51] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4373 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:23:51] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4373. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:23:52] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4373  
[2026-08-20 12:23:55] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19766 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low.  
[2026-08-20 12:23:55] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19766 — extracted reference 'IG261768' but no DSAR matched.  
[2026-08-20 12:23:57] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19766 response_type=acknowledgement.  
[2026-08-20 12:23:57] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19766 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=none).  
[2026-08-20 12:24:07] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4374 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:24:07] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4374 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:24:07] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4374. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:24:07] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=manual) for recording 4374.  
[2026-08-20 12:25:38] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA9f93ae8c492576daa0987911205021d8","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6317"} 
[2026-08-20 12:25:38] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6317,"CallSid":"CA9f93ae8c492576daa0987911205021d8","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA9f93ae8c492576daa0987911205021d8","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6317"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:25:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:25:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 12:26:13] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4375 → AssemblyAI 19eb4e20-f9ed-46f0-9983-8c68d9a16678  
[2026-08-20 12:26:18] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAde07743fc527e4a30a14883c8acdd8ee","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6318"} 
[2026-08-20 12:26:18] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6318,"CallSid":"CAde07743fc527e4a30a14883c8acdd8ee","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAde07743fc527e4a30a14883c8acdd8ee","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6318"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:26:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:27:11] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA0e2d523f90940654c5a0438a8c1070cb","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6319"} 
[2026-08-20 12:27:11] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6319,"CallSid":"CA0e2d523f90940654c5a0438a8c1070cb","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA0e2d523f90940654c5a0438a8c1070cb","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6319"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:27:14] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4375 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:27:14] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4375 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:27:14] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4375. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:27:14] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4375 — too short to classify (duration=25s, words=75).  
[2026-08-20 12:27:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 12:28:25] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAb8f59209124312b338c1b2bcb2ec706c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6320"} 
[2026-08-20 12:28:25] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6320,"CallSid":"CAb8f59209124312b338c1b2bcb2ec706c","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAb8f59209124312b338c1b2bcb2ec706c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6320"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:29:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:29:22] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4376 → AssemblyAI 95a1bd12-6eb3-489e-b482-ac32e0bcd97b  
[2026-08-20 12:30:23] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4376 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:30:23] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4376 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:30:23] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4376. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:30:24] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4376  
[2026-08-20 12:31:01] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA80f891676d7660b257f966be368211d4","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6321"} 
[2026-08-20 12:31:01] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6321,"CallSid":"CA80f891676d7660b257f966be368211d4","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA80f891676d7660b257f966be368211d4","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6321"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:31:07] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4377 → AssemblyAI c8e96d48-14dc-4286-bb9a-9a90f1f69e31  
[2026-08-20 12:31:59] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19775 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 12:32:08] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4377 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:32:08] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4377 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:32:09] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4377. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:32:09] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 4377.  
[2026-08-20 12:32:20] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4378 → AssemblyAI 0e85d812-d494-4459-a6d4-16f190c3f022  
[2026-08-20 12:32:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:32:45] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4379 → AssemblyAI f6358fdc-6ef2-4323-8ef0-b066165657bf  
[2026-08-20 12:32:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:32:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:32:53] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: client 1544 has no handlers; no task created for message 19762.  
[2026-08-20 12:33:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 12:33:04] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19775 (client 1103, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 12:33:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 12:33:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 12:33:16] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAe82ac6074707bd21f9c121e38b491c80","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6322"} 
[2026-08-20 12:33:16] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6322,"CallSid":"CAe82ac6074707bd21f9c121e38b491c80","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAe82ac6074707bd21f9c121e38b491c80","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6322"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:33:20] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4378 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:33:20] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4378 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:33:21] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4378. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:33:22] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4378  
[2026-08-20 12:33:24] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAe92f031595b0d5a87a40c3d404639d81","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6323"} 
[2026-08-20 12:33:24] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6323,"CallSid":"CAe92f031595b0d5a87a40c3d404639d81","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAe92f031595b0d5a87a40c3d404639d81","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6323"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:33:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 12:33:25] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA176ab27a81686c4082be89601fa98bcc","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0ExNzZhYjI3YTgxNjg2YzQwODJiZTg5NjAxZmE5OGJjYyIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQzMDAyNDQ0MDAwIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIyNTYwNCJ9.uN4LHTJqacBVyw23t-vyFVq5SQiAxaImh2PQWVJ6KVm1pBLwr0de_Ncs_740E4mW4muHQgAMBL64qDchO6g4rQ%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+443002444000","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+443002444000","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 12:33:46] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4379 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:33:46] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4379 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:33:46] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4379. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:33:46] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=manual) for recording 4379.  
[2026-08-20 12:34:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:34:16] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4380 → AssemblyAI ddeec2f0-a185-4230-b145-2707e138febd  
[2026-08-20 12:34:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 12:35:16] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4380 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:35:16] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4380 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:35:17] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4380. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:35:17] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4380 — too short to classify (duration=25s, words=69).  
[2026-08-20 12:35:24] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA176ab27a81686c4082be89601fa98bcc","DialCallSid":"CAbfb374a120b9126fb24af3e1b43f2073","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"114"} 
[2026-08-20 12:35:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 12:35:33] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4381 → AssemblyAI de6dc083-d629-4ece-9c52-bc57b61c3b51  
[2026-08-20 12:35:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 12:35:51] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAd3f7acf895d942f66e47e6d603c1731f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6325"} 
[2026-08-20 12:35:51] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6325,"CallSid":"CAd3f7acf895d942f66e47e6d603c1731f","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAd3f7acf895d942f66e47e6d603c1731f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6325"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:36:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:36:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:36:33] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4381 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:36:33] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4381 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:36:34] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4381. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:36:35] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4381  
[2026-08-20 12:37:14] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA4907cbca90e90da435ff5338c6a1a445","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6326"} 
[2026-08-20 12:37:14] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6326,"CallSid":"CA4907cbca90e90da435ff5338c6a1a445","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA4907cbca90e90da435ff5338c6a1a445","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6326"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:37:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:37:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 12:37:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 12:38:20] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4382 → AssemblyAI cdb9bb23-6fc0-4991-866e-5d6dbd418982  
[2026-08-20 12:38:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:39:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:39:11] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4383 → AssemblyAI caf3e5ee-6875-4934-95ff-0768a7ebb526  
[2026-08-20 12:39:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:39:21] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4382 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:39:21] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4382 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:39:21] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4382. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:39:22] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=initial for recording 4382  
[2026-08-20 12:39:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:39:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:39:40] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA893fe8d0f00e86ebb431540faadc6256","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6327"} 
[2026-08-20 12:39:40] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6327,"CallSid":"CA893fe8d0f00e86ebb431540faadc6256","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA893fe8d0f00e86ebb431540faadc6256","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6327"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:39:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:39:46] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAbd22863435babd9b34f9794feb84333b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6328"} 
[2026-08-20 12:39:46] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6328,"CallSid":"CAbd22863435babd9b34f9794feb84333b","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAbd22863435babd9b34f9794feb84333b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6328"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:39:57] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 4382. {"total_score":5,"risk_rating":"high_risk","has_sections":true} 
[2026-08-20 12:40:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:40:12] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4383 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:40:12] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4383 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:40:13] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4383. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:40:14] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4383  
[2026-08-20 12:40:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:40:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 12:40:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:40:44] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4384 → AssemblyAI 0137a40a-9c8e-465c-8775-cadd7a62c207  
[2026-08-20 12:40:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:41:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:41:11] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAc949aa704d157bdf28329a9725661ed9","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6329"} 
[2026-08-20 12:41:11] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6329,"CallSid":"CAc949aa704d157bdf28329a9725661ed9","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAc949aa704d157bdf28329a9725661ed9","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6329"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:41:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:41:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:41:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:41:44] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4384 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:41:44] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4384 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:41:45] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4384. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:41:45] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4384  
[2026-08-20 12:41:51] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4385 → AssemblyAI 9bd34346-62b4-4d61-94db-0c0bf5ba41c1  
[2026-08-20 12:42:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 12:42:51] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4385 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:42:51] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4385 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:42:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 12:42:52] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4385. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:42:52] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4385 — too short to classify (duration=29s, words=82).  
[2026-08-20 12:42:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 12:42:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:44:07] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-6a47b8d5-8844-452e-9063-c162871e9dbc.pdf  
[2026-08-20 12:44:09] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 12:44:29] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA79ca440651fb7b1fddf73f1ef2b90093","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6330"} 
[2026-08-20 12:44:29] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6330,"CallSid":"CA79ca440651fb7b1fddf73f1ef2b90093","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA79ca440651fb7b1fddf73f1ef2b90093","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6330"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:44:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 12:44:42] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA09695c79ef0704ca0201caeeef938f9c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6331"} 
[2026-08-20 12:44:42] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6331,"CallSid":"CA09695c79ef0704ca0201caeeef938f9c","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA09695c79ef0704ca0201caeeef938f9c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6331"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:44:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 12:44:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:45:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:45:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 12:45:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:45:23] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4386 → AssemblyAI ba93ebbb-d47a-4f72-9167-5c6f660c7b64  
[2026-08-20 12:45:25] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAd55a543da508a1a39371b46c587fe2b3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6332"} 
[2026-08-20 12:45:25] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6332,"CallSid":"CAd55a543da508a1a39371b46c587fe2b3","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAd55a543da508a1a39371b46c587fe2b3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6332"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:45:35] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4387 → AssemblyAI 9a188cf6-d584-4013-9df6-ce2b185539df  
[2026-08-20 12:45:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:45:54] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4388 → AssemblyAI e501aacf-06e6-4891-a7a2-9cdcb17bd0ba  
[2026-08-20 12:45:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:46:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:46:23] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4386 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:46:23] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4386 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:46:24] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4386. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:46:24] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 4386.  
[2026-08-20 12:46:36] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4387 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:46:36] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4387 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:46:36] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4387. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:46:36] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4387 — too short to classify (duration=29s, words=80).  
[2026-08-20 12:46:44] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA23f4a942cc8537422b677f60cc65165d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6333"} 
[2026-08-20 12:46:44] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6333,"CallSid":"CA23f4a942cc8537422b677f60cc65165d","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA23f4a942cc8537422b677f60cc65165d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6333"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:46:54] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4388 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:46:54] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4388 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:46:54] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4388. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:46:55] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 4388.  
[2026-08-20 12:46:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 12:47:01] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4389 → AssemblyAI 5fa842b2-a994-4596-bd8d-1adae2526ee4  
[2026-08-20 12:47:24] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA85449ea6bed51b9caaa527ec40ec761d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6334"} 
[2026-08-20 12:47:24] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6334,"CallSid":"CA85449ea6bed51b9caaa527ec40ec761d","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA85449ea6bed51b9caaa527ec40ec761d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6334"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:48:01] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4389 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:48:01] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4389 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:48:02] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4389. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:48:02] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4389 — too short to classify (duration=8s, words=24).  
[2026-08-20 12:48:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 12:48:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 12:48:21] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4390 → AssemblyAI 88d0ad22-78d7-48fb-8875-3d40f5af9414  
[2026-08-20 12:48:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 12:48:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 12:48:37] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA6849d5675b3e795920c01ed5da3f80b9","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6335"} 
[2026-08-20 12:48:37] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6335,"CallSid":"CA6849d5675b3e795920c01ed5da3f80b9","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA6849d5675b3e795920c01ed5da3f80b9","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6335"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:48:49] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19796 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 12:48:51] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAcd91082ffbe5eaf4333548889e2d01c8","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6336"} 
[2026-08-20 12:48:51] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6336,"CallSid":"CAcd91082ffbe5eaf4333548889e2d01c8","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAcd91082ffbe5eaf4333548889e2d01c8","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6336"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:49:05] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4391 → AssemblyAI 4cd2501f-b6cf-48e1-aa2c-e14d21ccedcb  
[2026-08-20 12:49:22] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4390 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:49:22] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4390 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:49:22] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4390. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:49:22] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4390 — too short to classify (duration=28s, words=70).  
[2026-08-20 12:49:52] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4392 → AssemblyAI fbf8a94b-8fad-4e7c-842e-87e22c96d35a  
[2026-08-20 12:49:55] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19796 (client 1496, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 12:49:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:50:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:50:05] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4391 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:50:05] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4391 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:50:05] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4391. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:50:06] production.WARNING: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: no completed transcript for recording 4391.  
[2026-08-20 12:50:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 12:50:52] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4392 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:50:52] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4392 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:50:53] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4392. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:50:54] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4392  
[2026-08-20 12:51:10] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA4ad8d832d41e3c9a1cbc5cd19d1b3b0d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6337"} 
[2026-08-20 12:51:10] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6337,"CallSid":"CA4ad8d832d41e3c9a1cbc5cd19d1b3b0d","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA4ad8d832d41e3c9a1cbc5cd19d1b3b0d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6337"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:51:26] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA6494595f70fb14c715d5c21f418333a4","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6338"} 
[2026-08-20 12:51:26] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6338,"CallSid":"CA6494595f70fb14c715d5c21f418333a4","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA6494595f70fb14c715d5c21f418333a4","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6338"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:51:56] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAbd54888a15a27e0683581b3ae82867a6","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FiZDU0ODg4YTE1YTI3ZTA2ODM1ODFiM2FlODI4NjdhNiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NTA4NDQ3MTc4IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIyNjcxNSJ9.ShqEHmwPxFGn-koWujgD5Qk9yFfkO87_kJT0pTwVQ6is0j3DrgfZocH1m-yGPpg8NSZF4yGZtF3SJ6y29_WTMQ%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447508447178","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447508447178","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 12:52:31] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAbd54888a15a27e0683581b3ae82867a6","DialCallSid":"CAd76b5180c806464299358526a1f90618","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"29"} 
[2026-08-20 12:52:38] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4393 → AssemblyAI d0620cf8-5ed9-47eb-904f-88d7224b3a8b  
[2026-08-20 12:53:38] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4393 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 12:53:38] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4393 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 12:53:39] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4393. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 12:53:40] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4393  
[2026-08-20 12:53:42] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA511ca5a7e7dc7548998d81bcd444853f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6340"} 
[2026-08-20 12:53:42] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6340,"CallSid":"CA511ca5a7e7dc7548998d81bcd444853f","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA511ca5a7e7dc7548998d81bcd444853f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6340"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:55:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:55:53] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA5632a9ee924725d1eca6d7996a28b532","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6341"} 
[2026-08-20 12:55:53] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6341,"CallSid":"CA5632a9ee924725d1eca6d7996a28b532","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA5632a9ee924725d1eca6d7996a28b532","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6341"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:55:57] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"LJMjqxWgpPhNycijnFlL1alOtn4=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 12:56:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 12:56:38] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA03426d67ebe372645ff2a2a0b2656930","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6342"} 
[2026-08-20 12:56:38] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6342,"CallSid":"CA03426d67ebe372645ff2a2a0b2656930","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA03426d67ebe372645ff2a2a0b2656930","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6342"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:57:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 12:57:30] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19809 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 12:57:45] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAac8cc03d3b25294083ffcc4c2cf1b356","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6343"} 
[2026-08-20 12:57:45] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6343,"CallSid":"CAac8cc03d3b25294083ffcc4c2cf1b356","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAac8cc03d3b25294083ffcc4c2cf1b356","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6343"}} 
[2026-08-20 12:57:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:01:32] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4394 → AssemblyAI d2204428-df88-4a00-b050-3803abc1104a  
[2026-08-20 13:01:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 13:01:44] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAe896b9dc3e8db724548e815d298c318b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6344"} 
[2026-08-20 13:01:44] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6344,"CallSid":"CAe896b9dc3e8db724548e815d298c318b","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAe896b9dc3e8db724548e815d298c318b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6344"}} 
[2026-08-20 13:02:04] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4395 → AssemblyAI 2fb933b3-c3ec-4d3d-b259-567190e55192  
[2026-08-20 13:02:33] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4394 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 13:02:33] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4394 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 13:02:34] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4394. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 13:02:35] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4394  
[2026-08-20 13:03:04] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4395 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 13:03:04] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4395 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 13:03:05] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4395. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 13:03:05] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 4395.  
[2026-08-20 13:03:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 13:05:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 13:05:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 13:05:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 13:06:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 13:06:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 13:06:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 13:06:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 13:06:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 13:07:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 13:07:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 13:07:52] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAb135f41367db4a2e8ba04d2e7ddddb6f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6345"} 
[2026-08-20 13:07:52] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6345,"CallSid":"CAb135f41367db4a2e8ba04d2e7ddddb6f","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAb135f41367db4a2e8ba04d2e7ddddb6f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6345"}} 
[2026-08-20 13:08:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:08:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 13:08:58] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4396 → AssemblyAI 12e5c057-1ea4-4e67-b76c-31e8b3adf99f  
[2026-08-20 13:09:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:09:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 13:09:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 13:09:24] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4397 → AssemblyAI aa9585ac-5328-409e-bd98-9a4c8af29b3d  
[2026-08-20 13:09:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:09:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:09:59] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4396 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 13:09:59] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4396 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 13:09:59] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4396. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 13:10:00] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4396  
[2026-08-20 13:10:25] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4397 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 13:10:25] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4397 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 13:10:25] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4397. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 13:10:26] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4397  
[2026-08-20 13:10:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 13:11:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:14:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:15:07] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAb347d431489e2a341cc457dcecbb9928","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6346"} 
[2026-08-20 13:15:07] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6346,"CallSid":"CAb347d431489e2a341cc457dcecbb9928","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAb347d431489e2a341cc457dcecbb9928","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6346"}} 
[2026-08-20 13:18:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:18:29] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-491a8c9e-970c-4a4d-b931-f36f08f46093.pdf  
[2026-08-20 13:18:32] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-68fafa6c-4851-433e-a1b3-ee0501ddbfc2.pdf  
[2026-08-20 13:18:35] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-7a548169-0792-46af-8e0b-0cbf487635f0.pdf  
[2026-08-20 13:18:38] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-b56296bb-c9b0-429e-98b1-841d2fe9e2df.pdf  
[2026-08-20 13:18:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:18:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 13:19:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 13:21:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 13:22:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 13:27:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 13:29:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 13:29:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 13:30:45] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA17eb1f6204c1742c96b025a17ec95b16","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6347"} 
[2026-08-20 13:30:45] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6347,"CallSid":"CA17eb1f6204c1742c96b025a17ec95b16","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA17eb1f6204c1742c96b025a17ec95b16","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6347"}} 
[2026-08-20 13:31:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:31:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:31:50] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4398 → AssemblyAI 436e4c33-025d-4698-86b3-fef850be1a58  
[2026-08-20 13:32:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:32:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:32:50] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4398 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 13:32:50] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4398 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 13:32:51] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4398. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 13:32:52] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4398  
[2026-08-20 13:33:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 13:33:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 13:34:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:35:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:35:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:35:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:36:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:36:58] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAf0defe366160d11a0d521410af14007d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6348"} 
[2026-08-20 13:36:58] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6348,"CallSid":"CAf0defe366160d11a0d521410af14007d","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CAf0defe366160d11a0d521410af14007d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6348"}} 
[2026-08-20 13:37:12] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-4e76e8b6-0324-4744-be05-7c96b535d5d5.pdf  
[2026-08-20 13:37:15] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-ee859dec-7455-4d03-b572-1943602bf19e.pdf  
[2026-08-20 13:37:18] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-6e5a6970-0f1b-4171-bee6-2c753a22152c.pdf  
[2026-08-20 13:37:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:39:31] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA974a1888aed88864a4fb71618e523d7b","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E5NzRhMTg4OGFlZDg4ODY0YTRmYjcxNjE4ZTUyM2Q3YiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3OTIyNTI4NDE1IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIyOTU3MCJ9.hvZCQh91gd_HDChqXjBxyQ7HH-NGwZkIWk5kKz3J57AlxKh9GVaTbb98sDBVm23IJp2rKtXzy6hMJR9CFkAP1g%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447922528415","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447922528415","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 13:39:37] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11782 (20260820 - Extension letter for SAR.docx).  
[2026-08-20 13:39:40] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19819 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 13:39:42] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19819 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='SC/AT/CQ'.  
[2026-08-20 13:39:56] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19819 — AI matcher dsar_id=4134, confidence=high.  
[2026-08-20 13:39:56] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19819 linked to DSAR 4134.  
[2026-08-20 13:39:56] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference 'SC/AT/CQ' for DSAR 4134.  
[2026-08-20 13:39:59] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19819 response_type=delay_notice.  
[2026-08-20 13:39:59] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19819 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=delay_notice, dsar_id=4134).  
[2026-08-20 13:39:59] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19819 auto-set DSAR 4134 status → acknowledged (response_type=delay_notice).  
[2026-08-20 13:40:25] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","Digits":"hangup","RecordingUrl":"https://api.twilio.com/2010-04-01/Accounts/AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be/Recordings/REf677f8983a5fd3fd46b7cafbc3351f1f","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA974a1888aed88864a4fb71618e523d7b","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"completed","RecordingSid":"REf677f8983a5fd3fd46b7cafbc3351f1f","From":"+447922528415","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447922528415","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null,"RecordingDuration":"40"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:26] production.ERROR: TwilioController: failed to handle inbound call. {"from":"+447922528415","to":"+441618880834","error":"SQLSTATE[23000]: Integrity constraint violation: 1062 Duplicate entry 'CA974a1888aed88864a4fb71618e523d7b' for key 'calls.calls_provider_call_sid_unique' (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: insert into `calls` (`solicitor_id`, `assigned_agent_id`, `answered_by_agent_id`, `solicitor_phone_number_id`, `provider`, `provider_call_sid`, `from_number`, `to_number`, `phone_number_type_slug`, `call_type`, `queue_type`, `target_label`, `target_type`, `is_recorded`, `recording_notice_played`, `meta`, `communication_id`, `updated_at`, `created_at`) values (3, ?, ?, 4, twilio, CA974a1888aed88864a4fb71618e523d7b, +447922528415, +441618880834, client, client, ?, Mr James Tanner, Client, 1, 0, {\"twilio_call_status\":\"completed\",\"twilio_direction\":\"inbound\",\"raw_payload\":{\"Called\":\"+441618880834\",\"Digits\":\"hangup\",\"RecordingUrl\":\"https:\\/\\/api.twilio.com\\/2010-04-01\\/Accounts\\/AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be\\/Recordings\\/REf677f8983a5fd3fd46b7cafbc3351f1f\",\"ToState\":\"Manchester\",\"CallerCountry\":\"GB\",\"Direction\":\"inbound\",\"CallerState\":null,\"ToZip\":null,\"CallSid\":\"CA974a1888aed88864a4fb71618e523d7b\",\"To\":\"+441618880834\",\"CallerZip\":null,\"ToCountry\":\"GB\",\"CalledZip\":null,\"ApiVersion\":\"2010-04-01\",\"CalledCity\":null,\"CallStatus\":\"completed\",\"RecordingSid\":\"REf677f8983a5fd3fd46b7cafbc3351f1f\",\"From\":\"+447922528415\",\"AccountSid\":\"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be\",\"CalledCountry\":\"GB\",\"CallerCity\":null,\"ApplicationSid\":\"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2\",\"ToCity\":null,\"FromCountry\":\"GB\",\"Caller\":\"+447922528415\",\"FromCity\":null,\"CalledState\":\"Manchester\",\"FromZip\":null,\"FromState\":null,\"RecordingDuration\":\"40\"}}, 6350, 2026-08-20 13:40:26, 2026-08-20 13:40:26))","exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Database\\UniqueConstraintViolationException(code: 23000): SQLSTATE[23000]: Integrity constraint violation: 1062 Duplicate entry 'CA974a1888aed88864a4fb71618e523d7b' for key 'calls.calls_provider_call_sid_unique' (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: insert into `calls` (`solicitor_id`, `assigned_agent_id`, `answered_by_agent_id`, `solicitor_phone_number_id`, `provider`, `provider_call_sid`, `from_number`, `to_number`, `phone_number_type_slug`, `call_type`, `queue_type`, `target_label`, `target_type`, `is_recorded`, `recording_notice_played`, `meta`, `communication_id`, `updated_at`, `created_at`) values (3, ?, ?, 4, twilio, CA974a1888aed88864a4fb71618e523d7b, +447922528415, +441618880834, client, client, ?, Mr James Tanner, Client, 1, 0, {\"twilio_call_status\":\"completed\",\"twilio_direction\":\"inbound\",\"raw_payload\":{\"Called\":\"+441618880834\",\"Digits\":\"hangup\",\"RecordingUrl\":\"https:\\/\\/api.twilio.com\\/2010-04-01\\/Accounts\\/AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be\\/Recordings\\/REf677f8983a5fd3fd46b7cafbc3351f1f\",\"ToState\":\"Manchester\",\"CallerCountry\":\"GB\",\"Direction\":\"inbound\",\"CallerState\":null,\"ToZip\":null,\"CallSid\":\"CA974a1888aed88864a4fb71618e523d7b\",\"To\":\"+441618880834\",\"CallerZip\":null,\"ToCountry\":\"GB\",\"CalledZip\":null,\"ApiVersion\":\"2010-04-01\",\"CalledCity\":null,\"CallStatus\":\"completed\",\"RecordingSid\":\"REf677f8983a5fd3fd46b7cafbc3351f1f\",\"From\":\"+447922528415\",\"AccountSid\":\"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be\",\"CalledCountry\":\"GB\",\"CallerCity\":null,\"ApplicationSid\":\"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2\",\"ToCity\":null,\"FromCountry\":\"GB\",\"Caller\":\"+447922528415\",\"FromCity\":null,\"CalledState\":\"Manchester\",\"FromZip\":null,\"FromState\":null,\"RecordingDuration\":\"40\"}}, 6350, 2026-08-20 13:40:26, 2026-08-20 13:40:26)) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:838)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('insert into `ca...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/MySqlConnection.php(42): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('insert into `ca...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Processors/MySqlProcessor.php(35): Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection->insert('insert into `ca...', Array, 'id')
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4170): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Processors\\MySqlProcessor->processInsertGetId(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder), 'insert into `ca...', Array, 'id')
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(2237): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->insertGetId(Array, 'id')
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1436): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->__call('insertGetId', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1401): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->insertAndSetId(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1240): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->performInsert(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Relations/HasOneOrMany.php(391): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->save()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Relations\\HasOneOrMany->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Relations\\HasOneOrMany::create():388}(Object(App\\Models\\Communication\\Call))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Relations/HasOneOrMany.php(388): tap(Object(App\\Models\\Communication\\Call), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Actions/Communications/CreateInboundCommunicationAction.php(57): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Relations\\HasOneOrMany->create(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Concerns/ManagesTransactions.php(35): App\\Actions\\Communications\\CreateInboundCommunicationAction->{closure:App\\Actions\\Communications\\CreateInboundCommunicationAction::handle():30}(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/DatabaseManager.php(491): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->transaction(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/Facades/Facade.php(363): Illuminate\\Database\\DatabaseManager->__call('transaction', Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Actions/Communications/CreateInboundCommunicationAction.php(30): Illuminate\\Support\\Facades\\Facade::__callStatic('transaction', Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Actions/Communications/HandleInboundCallAction.php(30): App\\Actions\\Communications\\CreateInboundCommunicationAction->handle(3, Object(App\\Models\\Communication\\SolicitorPhoneNumber), '+447922528415', Object(App\\Models\\Client\\Client), Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Controllers/Twilio/TwilioController.php(33): App\\Actions\\Communications\\HandleInboundCallAction->handle('+447922528415', '+441618880834', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Controllers/Twilio/TwilioController.php(17): App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController->handleInbound(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(App\\Actions\\Communications\\HandleInboundCallAction))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController->__invoke(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(App\\Actions\\Communications\\HandleInboundCallAction))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController), '__invoke')
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController), '__invoke')
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/VerifyTwilioWebhook.php(70): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyTwilioWebhook->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(31): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(51): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#86 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 23000): SQLSTATE[23000]: Integrity constraint violation: 1062 Duplicate entry 'CA974a1888aed88864a4fb71618e523d7b' for key 'calls.calls_provider_call_sid_unique' at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/MySqlConnection.php:53)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/MySqlConnection.php(53): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection::insert():42}('insert into `ca...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('insert into `ca...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/MySqlConnection.php(42): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('insert into `ca...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Processors/MySqlProcessor.php(35): Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection->insert('insert into `ca...', Array, 'id')
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4170): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Processors\\MySqlProcessor->processInsertGetId(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder), 'insert into `ca...', Array, 'id')
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(2237): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->insertGetId(Array, 'id')
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1436): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->__call('insertGetId', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1401): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->insertAndSetId(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1240): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->performInsert(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Relations/HasOneOrMany.php(391): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->save()
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Relations\\HasOneOrMany->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Relations\\HasOneOrMany::create():388}(Object(App\\Models\\Communication\\Call))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Relations/HasOneOrMany.php(388): tap(Object(App\\Models\\Communication\\Call), Object(Closure))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Actions/Communications/CreateInboundCommunicationAction.php(57): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Relations\\HasOneOrMany->create(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Concerns/ManagesTransactions.php(35): App\\Actions\\Communications\\CreateInboundCommunicationAction->{closure:App\\Actions\\Communications\\CreateInboundCommunicationAction::handle():30}(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/DatabaseManager.php(491): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->transaction(Object(Closure))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/Facades/Facade.php(363): Illuminate\\Database\\DatabaseManager->__call('transaction', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Actions/Communications/CreateInboundCommunicationAction.php(30): Illuminate\\Support\\Facades\\Facade::__callStatic('transaction', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Actions/Communications/HandleInboundCallAction.php(30): App\\Actions\\Communications\\CreateInboundCommunicationAction->handle(3, Object(App\\Models\\Communication\\SolicitorPhoneNumber), '+447922528415', Object(App\\Models\\Client\\Client), Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Controllers/Twilio/TwilioController.php(33): App\\Actions\\Communications\\HandleInboundCallAction->handle('+447922528415', '+441618880834', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Controllers/Twilio/TwilioController.php(17): App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController->handleInbound(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(App\\Actions\\Communications\\HandleInboundCallAction))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController->__invoke(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(App\\Actions\\Communications\\HandleInboundCallAction))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController), '__invoke')
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController), '__invoke')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/VerifyTwilioWebhook.php(70): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyTwilioWebhook->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(31): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(51): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#88 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZSPSZ8D0M2MYMN0076G7"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:29] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FJZSPSZ8D0M2MYMN0076G7"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZSRZYPGWPPYVJANNT117"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:29] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FJZSRZYPGWPPYVJANNT117"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZSSJJP0B7R9V5DGJ2QMF"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:30] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FJZSSJJP0B7R9V5DGJ2QMF"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:30] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4399 → AssemblyAI b570eb5e-fc82-4ee0-a788-9297f563d1ed  
[2026-08-20 13:40:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZST8W8VHDVYYVNQXCB2Q"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:31] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FJZST8W8VHDVYYVNQXCB2Q"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZSX54JN11FVPJ4S069FX"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:32] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FJZSX54JN11FVPJ4S069FX"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZSYCVW4X61H702RWEGY8"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:32] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FJZSYCVW4X61H702RWEGY8"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZSZ4G6YTAQGC97DP6E3S"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:33] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FJZSZ4G6YTAQGC97DP6E3S"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:34] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZSZYJRCQKTR2QB1RSZYN"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:34] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FJZSZYJRCQKTR2QB1RSZYN"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:38] production.INFO: eSign signing-link email: firing trigger (single request link) {"contract_request_id":1038,"documents":8,"has_signing_url":true} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZSPSZ8D0M2MYMN0076G7"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:41] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZSRZYPGWPPYVJANNT117"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:42] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZSSJJP0B7R9V5DGJ2QMF"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:42] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZST8W8VHDVYYVNQXCB2Q"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:43] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZSX54JN11FVPJ4S069FX"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:44] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZSYCVW4X61H702RWEGY8"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:44] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZSZ4G6YTAQGC97DP6E3S"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:45] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FJZSZYJRCQKTR2QB1RSZYN"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:46] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FJZSPSZ8D0M2MYMN0076G7"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:47] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FJZSRZYPGWPPYVJANNT117"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:47] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FJZSSJJP0B7R9V5DGJ2QMF"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:48] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FJZST8W8VHDVYYVNQXCB2Q"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:49] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FJZSX54JN11FVPJ4S069FX"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:49] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FJZSYCVW4X61H702RWEGY8"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:50] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FJZSZ4G6YTAQGC97DP6E3S"} 
[2026-08-20 13:40:51] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FJZSZYJRCQKTR2QB1RSZYN"} 
[2026-08-20 13:41:30] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4399 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 13:41:30] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4399 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 13:41:31] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4399. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 13:41:32] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4399  
[2026-08-20 13:43:34] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19823 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 13:44:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FJZSPSZ8D0M2MYMN0076G7"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FJZSRZYPGWPPYVJANNT117"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FJZSSJJP0B7R9V5DGJ2QMF"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FJZST8W8VHDVYYVNQXCB2Q"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FJZSX54JN11FVPJ4S069FX"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:16] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FJZSYCVW4X61H702RWEGY8"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:17] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FJZSZ4G6YTAQGC97DP6E3S"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:17] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FJZSZYJRCQKTR2QB1RSZYN"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:18] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19826 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 13:44:21] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FJZSPSZ8D0M2MYMN0076G7"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:23] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FJZSRZYPGWPPYVJANNT117"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:24] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FJZSSJJP0B7R9V5DGJ2QMF"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:24] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FJZST8W8VHDVYYVNQXCB2Q"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FJZSX54JN11FVPJ4S069FX"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FJZSYCVW4X61H702RWEGY8"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FJZSZ4G6YTAQGC97DP6E3S"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FJZSZYJRCQKTR2QB1RSZYN"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FJZSPSZ8D0M2MYMN0076G7"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FJZSPSZ8D0M2MYMN0076G7"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FJZSRZYPGWPPYVJANNT117"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FJZSRZYPGWPPYVJANNT117"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FJZSSJJP0B7R9V5DGJ2QMF"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FJZSSJJP0B7R9V5DGJ2QMF"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FJZST8W8VHDVYYVNQXCB2Q"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FJZST8W8VHDVYYVNQXCB2Q"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FJZSX54JN11FVPJ4S069FX"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:34] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FJZSX54JN11FVPJ4S069FX"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FJZSYCVW4X61H702RWEGY8"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FJZSYCVW4X61H702RWEGY8"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FJZSZ4G6YTAQGC97DP6E3S"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FJZSZ4G6YTAQGC97DP6E3S"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FJZSZYJRCQKTR2QB1RSZYN"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FJZSZYJRCQKTR2QB1RSZYN"} 
[2026-08-20 13:44:39] production.INFO: Broadcasting [Illuminate\Notifications\Events\BroadcastNotificationCreated] on channels [private-App.Models.User.User.36] with payload:
{
    "type": "App\\Notifications\\InitialDocumentsSignedNotification",
    "title": "Initial documents e-signed",
    "message": "Miss Jennifer Susan Rae e-signed 8 documents",
    "client_id": 1438,
    "client_name": "Miss Jennifer Susan Rae",
    "documents": [
        "LOA",
        "Client Care Letter",
        "CFA",
        "Part 1",
        "Part 2",
        "Part 2 Extra",
        "Part 2 Extra",
        "Part 2 Extra"
    ],
    "id": "effbca1e-fd10-48ca-bd88-1ce066d47b92",
    "socket": null
}  
[2026-08-20 13:45:11] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA9da4e335b6909befcaff1fccaa22e3ef","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6351"} 
[2026-08-20 13:45:11] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6351,"CallSid":"CA9da4e335b6909befcaff1fccaa22e3ef","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA9da4e335b6909befcaff1fccaa22e3ef","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6351"}} 
[2026-08-20 13:45:53] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4400 → AssemblyAI 6c58ed77-e1b6-4012-9211-ff41528c10b0  
[2026-08-20 13:45:55] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA634ba2c431da1995c630f441b6f938b3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6352"} 
[2026-08-20 13:45:55] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6352,"CallSid":"CA634ba2c431da1995c630f441b6f938b3","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA634ba2c431da1995c630f441b6f938b3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6352"}} 
[2026-08-20 13:46:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:46:42] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:46:43] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA3e98d00e6857ebf3bd6700843dd741df","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0EzZTk4ZDAwZTY4NTdlYmYzYmQ2NzAwODQzZGQ3NDFkZiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NTA4NDQ3MTc4IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIzMDAwMiJ9.tt5jjF5wNPHbpZ2h0U10W2E-HmRRhgEFaifRqB8tHYNgU7THq8wl9tmhGO4Qc5ZV1XQNc6m2WF4VYcwvdpIT-w%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447508447178","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447508447178","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 13:46:48] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4402 → AssemblyAI d8e95615-c910-4e0d-9963-aba9d750cb3a  
[2026-08-20 13:46:53] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4400 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 13:46:53] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4400 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 13:46:54] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4400. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 13:46:54] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4400 — too short to classify (duration=16s, words=38).  
[2026-08-20 13:47:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:47:37] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4401 → AssemblyAI 1b5a3ab1-fef1-4709-ab6d-4819588587b3  
[2026-08-20 13:47:49] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4402 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 13:47:49] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4402 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 13:47:49] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4402. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 13:47:49] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4402 — too short to classify (duration=28s, words=92).  
[2026-08-20 13:48:10] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA3e98d00e6857ebf3bd6700843dd741df","DialCallSid":"CA25093609010e5aef23de87adbb98b7be","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"82"} 
[2026-08-20 13:48:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:48:19] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4403 → AssemblyAI e1096b15-ec5b-4fba-a200-c9c3280e173a  
[2026-08-20 13:48:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:48:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:48:41] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4401 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 13:48:41] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4401 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 13:48:41] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4401. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 13:48:41] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: recording 4401 marked 'initial' by agent disposition; skipping classifier.  
[2026-08-20 13:48:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:19] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4403 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 13:49:19] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4403 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 13:49:20] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4403. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:21] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4403  
[2026-08-20 13:49:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:41] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 4401. {"total_score":87,"risk_rating":"acceptable","has_sections":true} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:44] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:49:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:50:22] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19832 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 13:50:23] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19832 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref=''.  
[2026-08-20 13:50:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 13:50:35] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19832 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low.  
[2026-08-20 13:50:38] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19832 response_type=acknowledgement.  
[2026-08-20 13:50:38] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19832 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=none).  
[2026-08-20 13:50:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:50:44] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4404 → AssemblyAI 346be6da-80cb-492d-9b8f-9d0a1eecc3e0  
[2026-08-20 13:50:57] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19832 (client 1438, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 13:51:45] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4404 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 13:51:45] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4404 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 13:51:45] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4404. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 13:51:45] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 4404.  
[2026-08-20 13:51:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 13:52:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 13:52:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 13:52:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 13:52:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 13:52:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:53:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:55:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:55:56] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-7871c6d0-ce27-4c38-9b28-a8c936cf7d3b.pdf  
[2026-08-20 13:55:59] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-9557f8e5-7795-4368-93de-1a966bdb6d67.pdf  
[2026-08-20 13:56:02] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-ed833705-4447-4417-bd35-c0ae54b2b9b8.pdf  
[2026-08-20 13:56:05] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-afcf39ee-544d-40b1-b0b0-b95b2afcf770.pdf  
[2026-08-20 13:56:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:56:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 13:56:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 13:57:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 13:57:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 13:57:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:57:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 13:57:48] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA7b528773a0873904ea5d7ef0e360607b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6354"} 
[2026-08-20 13:57:48] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6354,"CallSid":"CA7b528773a0873904ea5d7ef0e360607b","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA7b528773a0873904ea5d7ef0e360607b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6354"}} 
[2026-08-20 13:58:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:58:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:58:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:58:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 13:58:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:58:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 13:58:30] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4405 → AssemblyAI 02d5dba1-3a3d-4ede-aa53-7fa0819d8f09  
[2026-08-20 13:58:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 13:58:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 13:59:03] production.WARNING: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: recording 4182 has no stored file.  
[2026-08-20 13:59:15] production.WARNING: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: recording 4182 has no stored file.  
[2026-08-20 13:59:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 13:59:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 13:59:31] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4405 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 13:59:31] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4405 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 13:59:31] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4405. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 13:59:33] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4405  
[2026-08-20 14:00:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:00:44] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4182 → AssemblyAI 9dddbd42-44fb-4757-b3c7-38d6d387343a  
[2026-08-20 14:00:46] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4182 → AssemblyAI 69b0a3fb-240d-43f5-9a60-feb40755561e  
[2026-08-20 14:01:04] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4182 → AssemblyAI ae1f07ff-2a4e-4433-a453-69d8b8b737aa  
[2026-08-20 14:01:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 14:01:44] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=processing (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:01:46] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=processing (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:02:05] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=processing (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:02:16] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4182 → AssemblyAI 353dde96-7378-468d-9129-f029f9403352  
[2026-08-20 14:02:16] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4182 → AssemblyAI 2319f80f-569f-4793-8d10-07ebe62a31f2  
[2026-08-20 14:02:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:02:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:02:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 14:02:41] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-5f37ec53-6aeb-49c0-99c5-5af90345e500.pdf  
[2026-08-20 14:02:44] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-0d2d5ebe-172f-46ab-820f-f06bdeaa3517.pdf  
[2026-08-20 14:02:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:02:48] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 14:02:48] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Okay, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my other gran and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings obviously besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many? From all, from all of them? Okay, and did you say— so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember, but okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:33]: Aye, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that. Yeah. Because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:09]: Yes. And what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one. It was the best one?
[A 23:17]: Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two.
[A 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too. Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember? You weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you? Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:45]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some homes you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths? There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[B 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good. Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable. Back then, you're young, it was—
[B 40:26]: when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips.
[A 40:31]: That was the main thing. Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know. No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek.
[A 44:06]: I can't remember his second name. Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans. Yeah.
[A 49:26]: Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly. Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:01]: In the dining room, in the kitchen. Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone when she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a mate. But I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then.
[B 56:14]: It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really?
[A 58:08]: Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:15]: At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[B 58:24]: Not too bad then.
[A 58:26]: Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you? No, they weren't never explained.
[B 62:45]: They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions. No, they just let us on the train, that's it. I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up? That's kind of, that's them all.
[B 67:07]: It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay. Like, came back, that's up in co'. And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot. Okay.
[A 69:42]: How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact with people? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:50]: I think that's in my heart, mate. I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out and things like that. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you, so yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay.
[A 76:44]: Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they? Yeah.
[A 78:35]: And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it. Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022? They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant.
[B 83:32]: He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did.
[A 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure. Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back. Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few hundred-odd million worth of players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Okay, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my other gran and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings obviously besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many? From all, from all of them? Okay, and did you say— so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember, but okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:33]: Aye, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that. Yeah. Because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:09]: Yes. And what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one. It was the best one?
[A 23:17]: Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two.
[A 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too. Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember? You weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you? Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:45]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some homes you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths? There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[B 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good. Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable. Back then, you're young, it was—
[B 40:26]: when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips.
[A 40:31]: That was the main thing. Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know. No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek.
[A 44:06]: I can't remember his second name. Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans. Yeah.
[A 49:26]: Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly. Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:01]: In the dining room, in the kitchen. Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone when she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a mate. But I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then.
[B 56:14]: It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really?
[A 58:08]: Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:15]: At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[B 58:24]: Not too bad then.
[A 58:26]: Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you? No, they weren't never explained.
[B 62:45]: They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions. No, they just let us on the train, that's it. I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up? That's kind of, that's them all.
[B 67:07]: It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay. Like, came back, that's up in co'. And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot. Okay.
[A 69:42]: How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact with people? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:50]: I think that's in my heart, mate. I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out and things like that. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you, so yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay.
[A 76:44]: Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they? Yeah.
[A 78:35]: And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it. Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022? They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant.
[B 83:32]: He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did.
[A 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure. Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back. Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few hundred-odd million worth of players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Okay, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my other gran and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings obviously besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many? From all, from all of them? Okay, and did you say— so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember, but okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:33]: Aye, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that. Yeah. Because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:09]: Yes. And what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one. It was the best one?
[A 23:17]: Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two.
[A 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too. Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember? You weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you? Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:45]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some homes you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths? There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[B 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good. Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable. Back then, you're young, it was—
[B 40:26]: when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips.
[A 40:31]: That was the main thing. Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know. No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek.
[A 44:06]: I can't remember his second name. Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans. Yeah.
[A 49:26]: Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly. Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:01]: In the dining room, in the kitchen. Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone when she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a mate. But I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then.
[B 56:14]: It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really?
[A 58:08]: Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:15]: At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[B 58:24]: Not too bad then.
[A 58:26]: Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you? No, they weren't never explained.
[B 62:45]: They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions. No, they just let us on the train, that's it. I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up? That's kind of, that's them all.
[B 67:07]: It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay. Like, came back, that's up in co'. And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot. Okay.
[A 69:42]: How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact with people? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:50]: I think that's in my heart, mate. I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out and things like that. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you, so yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay.
[A 76:44]: Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they? Yeah.
[A 78:35]: And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it. Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022? They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant.
[B 83:32]: He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did.
[A 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure. Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back. Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few hundred-odd million worth of players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Okay, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my other gran and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings obviously besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many? From all, from all of them? Okay, and did you say— so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember, but okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:33]: Aye, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that. Yeah. Because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:09]: Yes. And what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one. It was the best one?
[A 23:17]: Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two.
[A 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too. Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember? You weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you? Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:45]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some homes you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths? There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[B 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good. Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable. Back then, you're young, it was—
[B 40:26]: when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips.
[A 40:31]: That was the main thing. Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know. No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek.
[A 44:06]: I can't remember his second name. Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans. Yeah.
[A 49:26]: Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly. Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:01]: In the dining room, in the kitchen. Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone when she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a mate. But I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then.
[B 56:14]: It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really?
[A 58:08]: Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:15]: At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[B 58:24]: Not too bad then.
[A 58:26]: Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you? No, they weren't never explained.
[B 62:45]: They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions. No, they just let us on the train, that's it. I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up? That's kind of, that's them all.
[B 67:07]: It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay. Like, came back, that's up in co'. And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot. Okay.
[A 69:42]: How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact with people? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:50]: I think that's in my heart, mate. I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out and things like that. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you, so yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay.
[A 76:44]: Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they? Yeah.
[A 78:35]: And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it. Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022? They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant.
[B 83:32]: He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did.
[A 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure. Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back. Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few hundred-odd million worth of players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#42 {main}
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[2026-08-20 14:02:57] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 14:02:57] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif?
[B 02:15]: Yes.
[A 02:16]: Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant, and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mum and that. My mum was an alcoholic and all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sexists, so no, there was nothing to eat, no.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say there was 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:28]: Okay, that was that your father. If I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't the case. We were 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? Yeah, it is.
[B 11:39]: Hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set in objectivity, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's alright, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's alright.
[B 14:34]: Yeah, a couple of months. 6 months, eh?
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that, eh?
[A 14:49]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course.
[A 16:52]: Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:33]: Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean. So yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
[A 19:48]: Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hang of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the Scouse, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. The table, we used to set the table. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell. Yeah. Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr—
[A 25:42]: who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms? Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents. And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or No, not really.
[B 28:10]: No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that and throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom? No, it was dormitories. Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something. So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time? Just no, for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say, like, you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just going to pop that into the other box in our notes sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside. Right, yes.
[A 43:19]: Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there.
[A 43:27]: A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names? Yes, there was Charles Horne.
[B 48:28]: He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Like a grant?
[A 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted. Okay.
[A 52:39]: What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed.
[A 61:02]: Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely. And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints? Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report. There probably is.
[A 64:25]: I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the kingdom. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing—
[A 75:51]: there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't offer that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't. You shouldna.
[A 82:23]: Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back?
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif?
[B 02:15]: Yes.
[A 02:16]: Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant, and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mum and that. My mum was an alcoholic and all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sexists, so no, there was nothing to eat, no.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say there was 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:28]: Okay, that was that your father. If I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't the case. We were 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? Yeah, it is.
[B 11:39]: Hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set in objectivity, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's alright, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's alright.
[B 14:34]: Yeah, a couple of months. 6 months, eh?
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that, eh?
[A 14:49]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course.
[A 16:52]: Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:33]: Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean. So yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
[A 19:48]: Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hang of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the Scouse, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. The table, we used to set the table. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell. Yeah. Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr—
[A 25:42]: who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms? Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents. And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or No, not really.
[B 28:10]: No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that and throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom? No, it was dormitories. Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something. So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time? Just no, for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say, like, you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just going to pop that into the other box in our notes sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside. Right, yes.
[A 43:19]: Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there.
[A 43:27]: A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names? Yes, there was Charles Horne.
[B 48:28]: He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Like a grant?
[A 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted. Okay.
[A 52:39]: What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed.
[A 61:02]: Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely. And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints? Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report. There probably is.
[A 64:25]: I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the kingdom. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing—
[A 75:51]: there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't offer that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't. You shouldna.
[A 82:23]: Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back?
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif?
[B 02:15]: Yes.
[A 02:16]: Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant, and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mum and that. My mum was an alcoholic and all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sexists, so no, there was nothing to eat, no.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say there was 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:28]: Okay, that was that your father. If I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't the case. We were 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? Yeah, it is.
[B 11:39]: Hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set in objectivity, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's alright, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's alright.
[B 14:34]: Yeah, a couple of months. 6 months, eh?
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that, eh?
[A 14:49]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course.
[A 16:52]: Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:33]: Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean. So yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
[A 19:48]: Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hang of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the Scouse, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. The table, we used to set the table. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell. Yeah. Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr—
[A 25:42]: who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms? Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents. And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or No, not really.
[B 28:10]: No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that and throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom? No, it was dormitories. Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something. So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time? Just no, for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say, like, you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just going to pop that into the other box in our notes sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside. Right, yes.
[A 43:19]: Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there.
[A 43:27]: A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names? Yes, there was Charles Horne.
[B 48:28]: He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Like a grant?
[A 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted. Okay.
[A 52:39]: What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed.
[A 61:02]: Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely. And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints? Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report. There probably is.
[A 64:25]: I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the kingdom. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing—
[A 75:51]: there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't offer that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't. You shouldna.
[A 82:23]: Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back?
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif?
[B 02:15]: Yes.
[A 02:16]: Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant, and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mum and that. My mum was an alcoholic and all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sexists, so no, there was nothing to eat, no.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say there was 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:28]: Okay, that was that your father. If I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't the case. We were 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? Yeah, it is.
[B 11:39]: Hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set in objectivity, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's alright, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's alright.
[B 14:34]: Yeah, a couple of months. 6 months, eh?
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that, eh?
[A 14:49]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course.
[A 16:52]: Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:33]: Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean. So yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
[A 19:48]: Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hang of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the Scouse, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. The table, we used to set the table. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell. Yeah. Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr—
[A 25:42]: who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms? Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents. And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or No, not really.
[B 28:10]: No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that and throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom? No, it was dormitories. Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something. So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time? Just no, for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say, like, you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just going to pop that into the other box in our notes sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside. Right, yes.
[A 43:19]: Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there.
[A 43:27]: A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names? Yes, there was Charles Horne.
[B 48:28]: He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Like a grant?
[A 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted. Okay.
[A 52:39]: What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed.
[A 61:02]: Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely. And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints? Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report. There probably is.
[A 64:25]: I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the kingdom. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing—
[A 75:51]: there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't offer that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't. You shouldna.
[A 82:23]: Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back?
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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[2026-08-20 14:03:07] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 14:03:07] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Okay, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my other gran and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings obviously besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many? From all, from all of them? Okay, and did you say— so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember, but okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:33]: Aye, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that. Yeah. Because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:09]: Yes. And what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one. It was the best one?
[A 23:17]: Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two.
[A 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too. Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember? You weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you? Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:45]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some homes you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths? There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[B 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good. Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable. Back then, you're young, it was—
[B 40:26]: when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips.
[A 40:31]: That was the main thing. Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know. No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek.
[A 44:06]: I can't remember his second name. Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans. Yeah.
[A 49:26]: Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly. Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:01]: In the dining room, in the kitchen. Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone when she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a mate. But I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then.
[B 56:14]: It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really?
[A 58:08]: Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:15]: At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[B 58:24]: Not too bad then.
[A 58:26]: Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you? No, they weren't never explained.
[B 62:45]: They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions. No, they just let us on the train, that's it. I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up? That's kind of, that's them all.
[B 67:07]: It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay. Like, came back, that's up in co'. And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot. Okay.
[A 69:42]: How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact with people? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:50]: I think that's in my heart, mate. I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out and things like that. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you, so yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay.
[A 76:44]: Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they? Yeah.
[A 78:35]: And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it. Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022? They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant.
[B 83:32]: He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did.
[A 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure. Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back. Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few hundred-odd million worth of players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Okay, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my other gran and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings obviously besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many? From all, from all of them? Okay, and did you say— so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember, but okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:33]: Aye, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that. Yeah. Because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:09]: Yes. And what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one. It was the best one?
[A 23:17]: Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two.
[A 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too. Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember? You weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you? Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:45]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some homes you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths? There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[B 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good. Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable. Back then, you're young, it was—
[B 40:26]: when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips.
[A 40:31]: That was the main thing. Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know. No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek.
[A 44:06]: I can't remember his second name. Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans. Yeah.
[A 49:26]: Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly. Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:01]: In the dining room, in the kitchen. Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone when she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a mate. But I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then.
[B 56:14]: It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really?
[A 58:08]: Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:15]: At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[B 58:24]: Not too bad then.
[A 58:26]: Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you? No, they weren't never explained.
[B 62:45]: They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions. No, they just let us on the train, that's it. I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up? That's kind of, that's them all.
[B 67:07]: It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay. Like, came back, that's up in co'. And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot. Okay.
[A 69:42]: How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact with people? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:50]: I think that's in my heart, mate. I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out and things like that. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you, so yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay.
[A 76:44]: Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they? Yeah.
[A 78:35]: And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it. Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022? They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant.
[B 83:32]: He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did.
[A 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure. Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back. Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few hundred-odd million worth of players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Okay, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my other gran and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings obviously besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many? From all, from all of them? Okay, and did you say— so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember, but okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:33]: Aye, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that. Yeah. Because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:09]: Yes. And what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one. It was the best one?
[A 23:17]: Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two.
[A 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too. Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember? You weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you? Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:45]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some homes you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths? There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[B 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good. Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable. Back then, you're young, it was—
[B 40:26]: when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips.
[A 40:31]: That was the main thing. Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know. No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek.
[A 44:06]: I can't remember his second name. Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans. Yeah.
[A 49:26]: Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly. Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:01]: In the dining room, in the kitchen. Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone when she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a mate. But I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then.
[B 56:14]: It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really?
[A 58:08]: Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:15]: At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[B 58:24]: Not too bad then.
[A 58:26]: Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you? No, they weren't never explained.
[B 62:45]: They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions. No, they just let us on the train, that's it. I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up? That's kind of, that's them all.
[B 67:07]: It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay. Like, came back, that's up in co'. And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot. Okay.
[A 69:42]: How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact with people? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:50]: I think that's in my heart, mate. I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out and things like that. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you, so yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay.
[A 76:44]: Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they? Yeah.
[A 78:35]: And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it. Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022? They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant.
[B 83:32]: He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did.
[A 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure. Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back. Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few hundred-odd million worth of players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Okay, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my other gran and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings obviously besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many? From all, from all of them? Okay, and did you say— so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember, but okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:33]: Aye, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that. Yeah. Because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:09]: Yes. And what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one. It was the best one?
[A 23:17]: Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two.
[A 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too. Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember? You weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you? Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:45]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some homes you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths? There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[B 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good. Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable. Back then, you're young, it was—
[B 40:26]: when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips.
[A 40:31]: That was the main thing. Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know. No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek.
[A 44:06]: I can't remember his second name. Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans. Yeah.
[A 49:26]: Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly. Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:01]: In the dining room, in the kitchen. Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone when she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a mate. But I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then.
[B 56:14]: It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really?
[A 58:08]: Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:15]: At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[B 58:24]: Not too bad then.
[A 58:26]: Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you? No, they weren't never explained.
[B 62:45]: They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions. No, they just let us on the train, that's it. I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up? That's kind of, that's them all.
[B 67:07]: It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay. Like, came back, that's up in co'. And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot. Okay.
[A 69:42]: How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact with people? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:50]: I think that's in my heart, mate. I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out and things like that. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you, so yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay.
[A 76:44]: Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they? Yeah.
[A 78:35]: And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it. Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022? They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant.
[B 83:32]: He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did.
[A 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure. Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back. Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few hundred-odd million worth of players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[2026-08-20 14:03:10] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 14:03:10] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was anyone else that I wasn't separated to but we were separated to another wee house in Anfield about 10 years ago.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? There's only 2 floors.
[B 11:43]: It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two. Mixture, mixture.
[B 14:06]: Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:32]: Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months. Yeah.
[A 14:36]: What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye? Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hens. They just, I don't think they're trained right to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort?
[B 19:03]: Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right, okay. Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us. Okay.
[A 21:49]: And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one? The staff are actually very nice.
[B 25:31]: The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin.
[B 25:44]: I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and looking in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes. Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that. Yeah.
[A 37:18]: So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to show up if you want to show up," and so on.
[A 38:31]: Okay. What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them, I dunno. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[B 44:44]: Okay. I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half? Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually all right now. Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go.
[A 54:57]: I actually liked it. Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them? Yes, it was just kind of—
[B 55:23]: Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, yeah.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? It's 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. And why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain, it's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it, that's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it? I know, that's kind of—
[B 69:00]: yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50.
[A 73:02]: I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually—
[B 78:57]: it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that. Absolutely.
[A 81:51]: And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season.
[B 83:13]: Not so much. That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them. Show me Obi. He was good. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever is Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant. Yeah, yeah.
[A 83:56]: I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back? Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was anyone else that I wasn't separated to but we were separated to another wee house in Anfield about 10 years ago.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? There's only 2 floors.
[B 11:43]: It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two. Mixture, mixture.
[B 14:06]: Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:32]: Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months. Yeah.
[A 14:36]: What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye? Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hens. They just, I don't think they're trained right to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort?
[B 19:03]: Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right, okay. Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us. Okay.
[A 21:49]: And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one? The staff are actually very nice.
[B 25:31]: The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin.
[B 25:44]: I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and looking in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes. Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that. Yeah.
[A 37:18]: So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to show up if you want to show up," and so on.
[A 38:31]: Okay. What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them, I dunno. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[B 44:44]: Okay. I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half? Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually all right now. Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go.
[A 54:57]: I actually liked it. Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them? Yes, it was just kind of—
[B 55:23]: Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, yeah.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? It's 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. And why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain, it's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it, that's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it? I know, that's kind of—
[B 69:00]: yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50.
[A 73:02]: I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually—
[B 78:57]: it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that. Absolutely.
[A 81:51]: And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season.
[B 83:13]: Not so much. That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them. Show me Obi. He was good. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever is Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant. Yeah, yeah.
[A 83:56]: I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back? Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was anyone else that I wasn't separated to but we were separated to another wee house in Anfield about 10 years ago.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? There's only 2 floors.
[B 11:43]: It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two. Mixture, mixture.
[B 14:06]: Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:32]: Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months. Yeah.
[A 14:36]: What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye? Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hens. They just, I don't think they're trained right to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort?
[B 19:03]: Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right, okay. Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us. Okay.
[A 21:49]: And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one? The staff are actually very nice.
[B 25:31]: The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin.
[B 25:44]: I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and looking in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes. Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that. Yeah.
[A 37:18]: So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to show up if you want to show up,\" and so on.
[A 38:31]: Okay. What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them, I dunno. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[B 44:44]: Okay. I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half? Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually all right now. Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go.
[A 54:57]: I actually liked it. Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them? Yes, it was just kind of—
[B 55:23]: Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, yeah.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? It's 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. And why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain, it's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it, that's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it? I know, that's kind of—
[B 69:00]: yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50.
[A 73:02]: I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually—
[B 78:57]: it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that. Absolutely.
[A 81:51]: And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season.
[B 83:13]: Not so much. That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them. Show me Obi. He was good. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever is Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant. Yeah, yeah.
[A 83:56]: I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back? Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was anyone else that I wasn't separated to but we were separated to another wee house in Anfield about 10 years ago.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? There's only 2 floors.
[B 11:43]: It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two. Mixture, mixture.
[B 14:06]: Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:32]: Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months. Yeah.
[A 14:36]: What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye? Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hens. They just, I don't think they're trained right to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort?
[B 19:03]: Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right, okay. Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us. Okay.
[A 21:49]: And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one? The staff are actually very nice.
[B 25:31]: The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin.
[B 25:44]: I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and looking in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes. Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that. Yeah.
[A 37:18]: So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to show up if you want to show up,\" and so on.
[A 38:31]: Okay. What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them, I dunno. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[B 44:44]: Okay. I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half? Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually all right now. Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go.
[A 54:57]: I actually liked it. Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them? Yes, it was just kind of—
[B 55:23]: Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, yeah.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? It's 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. And why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain, it's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it, that's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it? I know, that's kind of—
[B 69:00]: yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50.
[A 73:02]: I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually—
[B 78:57]: it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that. Absolutely.
[A 81:51]: And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season.
[B 83:13]: Not so much. That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them. Show me Obi. He was good. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever is Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant. Yeah, yeah.
[A 83:56]: I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back? Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[2026-08-20 14:03:16] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 14:03:16] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif?
[B 02:15]: Yes.
[A 02:16]: Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant, and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mum and that. My mum was an alcoholic and all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sexists, so no, there was nothing to eat, no.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say there was 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:28]: Okay, that was that your father. If I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't the case. We were 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? Yeah, it is.
[B 11:39]: Hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set in objectivity, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's alright, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's alright.
[B 14:34]: Yeah, a couple of months. 6 months, eh?
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that, eh?
[A 14:49]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course.
[A 16:52]: Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:33]: Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean. So yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
[A 19:48]: Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hang of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the Scouse, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. The table, we used to set the table. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell. Yeah. Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr—
[A 25:42]: who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms? Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents. And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or No, not really.
[B 28:10]: No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that and throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom? No, it was dormitories. Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something. So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time? Just no, for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say, like, you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just going to pop that into the other box in our notes sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside. Right, yes.
[A 43:19]: Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there.
[A 43:27]: A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names? Yes, there was Charles Horne.
[B 48:28]: He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Like a grant?
[A 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted. Okay.
[A 52:39]: What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed.
[A 61:02]: Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely. And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints? Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report. There probably is.
[A 64:25]: I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the kingdom. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing—
[A 75:51]: there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't offer that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't. You shouldna.
[A 82:23]: Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back?
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif?
[B 02:15]: Yes.
[A 02:16]: Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant, and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mum and that. My mum was an alcoholic and all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sexists, so no, there was nothing to eat, no.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say there was 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:28]: Okay, that was that your father. If I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't the case. We were 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? Yeah, it is.
[B 11:39]: Hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set in objectivity, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's alright, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's alright.
[B 14:34]: Yeah, a couple of months. 6 months, eh?
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that, eh?
[A 14:49]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course.
[A 16:52]: Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:33]: Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean. So yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
[A 19:48]: Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hang of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the Scouse, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. The table, we used to set the table. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell. Yeah. Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr—
[A 25:42]: who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms? Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents. And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or No, not really.
[B 28:10]: No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that and throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom? No, it was dormitories. Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something. So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time? Just no, for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say, like, you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just going to pop that into the other box in our notes sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside. Right, yes.
[A 43:19]: Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there.
[A 43:27]: A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names? Yes, there was Charles Horne.
[B 48:28]: He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Like a grant?
[A 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted. Okay.
[A 52:39]: What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed.
[A 61:02]: Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely. And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints? Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report. There probably is.
[A 64:25]: I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the kingdom. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing—
[A 75:51]: there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't offer that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't. You shouldna.
[A 82:23]: Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back?
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif?
[B 02:15]: Yes.
[A 02:16]: Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant, and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mum and that. My mum was an alcoholic and all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sexists, so no, there was nothing to eat, no.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say there was 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:28]: Okay, that was that your father. If I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't the case. We were 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? Yeah, it is.
[B 11:39]: Hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set in objectivity, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's alright, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's alright.
[B 14:34]: Yeah, a couple of months. 6 months, eh?
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that, eh?
[A 14:49]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course.
[A 16:52]: Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:33]: Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean. So yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
[A 19:48]: Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hang of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the Scouse, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. The table, we used to set the table. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell. Yeah. Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr—
[A 25:42]: who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms? Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents. And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or No, not really.
[B 28:10]: No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that and throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom? No, it was dormitories. Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something. So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time? Just no, for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say, like, you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just going to pop that into the other box in our notes sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside. Right, yes.
[A 43:19]: Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there.
[A 43:27]: A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names? Yes, there was Charles Horne.
[B 48:28]: He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Like a grant?
[A 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted. Okay.
[A 52:39]: What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed.
[A 61:02]: Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely. And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints? Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report. There probably is.
[A 64:25]: I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the kingdom. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing—
[A 75:51]: there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't offer that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't. You shouldna.
[A 82:23]: Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back?
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif?
[B 02:15]: Yes.
[A 02:16]: Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant, and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mum and that. My mum was an alcoholic and all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sexists, so no, there was nothing to eat, no.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say there was 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:28]: Okay, that was that your father. If I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't the case. We were 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? Yeah, it is.
[B 11:39]: Hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set in objectivity, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's alright, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's alright.
[B 14:34]: Yeah, a couple of months. 6 months, eh?
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that, eh?
[A 14:49]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course.
[A 16:52]: Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:33]: Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean. So yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
[A 19:48]: Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hang of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the Scouse, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. The table, we used to set the table. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell. Yeah. Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr—
[A 25:42]: who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms? Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents. And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or No, not really.
[B 28:10]: No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that and throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom? No, it was dormitories. Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something. So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time? Just no, for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say, like, you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just going to pop that into the other box in our notes sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside. Right, yes.
[A 43:19]: Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there.
[A 43:27]: A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names? Yes, there was Charles Horne.
[B 48:28]: He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Like a grant?
[A 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted. Okay.
[A 52:39]: What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed.
[A 61:02]: Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely. And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints? Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report. There probably is.
[A 64:25]: I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the kingdom. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing—
[A 75:51]: there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't offer that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't. You shouldna.
[A 82:23]: Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back?
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
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#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
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[2026-08-20 14:03:27] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Okay, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my other gran and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings obviously besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many? From all, from all of them? Okay, and did you say— so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember, but okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:33]: Aye, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that. Yeah. Because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:09]: Yes. And what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one. It was the best one?
[A 23:17]: Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two.
[A 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too. Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember? You weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you? Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:45]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some homes you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths? There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[B 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good. Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable. Back then, you're young, it was—
[B 40:26]: when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips.
[A 40:31]: That was the main thing. Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know. No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek.
[A 44:06]: I can't remember his second name. Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans. Yeah.
[A 49:26]: Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly. Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:01]: In the dining room, in the kitchen. Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone when she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a mate. But I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then.
[B 56:14]: It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really?
[A 58:08]: Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:15]: At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[B 58:24]: Not too bad then.
[A 58:26]: Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you? No, they weren't never explained.
[B 62:45]: They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions. No, they just let us on the train, that's it. I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up? That's kind of, that's them all.
[B 67:07]: It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay. Like, came back, that's up in co'. And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot. Okay.
[A 69:42]: How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact with people? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:50]: I think that's in my heart, mate. I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out and things like that. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you, so yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay.
[A 76:44]: Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they? Yeah.
[A 78:35]: And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it. Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022? They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant.
[B 83:32]: He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did.
[A 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure. Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back. Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few hundred-odd million worth of players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Okay, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my other gran and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings obviously besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many? From all, from all of them? Okay, and did you say— so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember, but okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:33]: Aye, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that. Yeah. Because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:09]: Yes. And what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one. It was the best one?
[A 23:17]: Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two.
[A 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too. Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember? You weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you? Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:45]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some homes you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths? There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[B 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good. Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable. Back then, you're young, it was—
[B 40:26]: when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips.
[A 40:31]: That was the main thing. Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know. No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek.
[A 44:06]: I can't remember his second name. Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans. Yeah.
[A 49:26]: Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly. Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:01]: In the dining room, in the kitchen. Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone when she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a mate. But I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then.
[B 56:14]: It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really?
[A 58:08]: Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:15]: At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[B 58:24]: Not too bad then.
[A 58:26]: Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you? No, they weren't never explained.
[B 62:45]: They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions. No, they just let us on the train, that's it. I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up? That's kind of, that's them all.
[B 67:07]: It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay. Like, came back, that's up in co'. And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot. Okay.
[A 69:42]: How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact with people? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:50]: I think that's in my heart, mate. I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out and things like that. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you, so yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay.
[A 76:44]: Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they? Yeah.
[A 78:35]: And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it. Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022? They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant.
[B 83:32]: He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did.
[A 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure. Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back. Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few hundred-odd million worth of players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Okay, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my other gran and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings obviously besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many? From all, from all of them? Okay, and did you say— so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember, but okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:33]: Aye, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that. Yeah. Because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:09]: Yes. And what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one. It was the best one?
[A 23:17]: Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two.
[A 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too. Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember? You weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you? Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:45]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some homes you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths? There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[B 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good. Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable. Back then, you're young, it was—
[B 40:26]: when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips.
[A 40:31]: That was the main thing. Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know. No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek.
[A 44:06]: I can't remember his second name. Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans. Yeah.
[A 49:26]: Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly. Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:01]: In the dining room, in the kitchen. Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone when she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a mate. But I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then.
[B 56:14]: It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really?
[A 58:08]: Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:15]: At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[B 58:24]: Not too bad then.
[A 58:26]: Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you? No, they weren't never explained.
[B 62:45]: They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions. No, they just let us on the train, that's it. I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up? That's kind of, that's them all.
[B 67:07]: It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay. Like, came back, that's up in co'. And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot. Okay.
[A 69:42]: How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact with people? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:50]: I think that's in my heart, mate. I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out and things like that. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you, so yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay.
[A 76:44]: Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they? Yeah.
[A 78:35]: And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it. Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022? They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant.
[B 83:32]: He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did.
[A 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure. Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back. Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few hundred-odd million worth of players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Okay, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my other gran and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings obviously besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many? From all, from all of them? Okay, and did you say— so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house?
[B 11:11]: Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses.
[A 11:17]: Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif, I don't know, I can't remember, but okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture. Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:33]: Aye, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that. Yeah. Because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:09]: Yes. And what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked. It's just getting older.
[A 18:14]: Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes.
[A 19:18]: You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes. Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right. Okay. I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay. There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one. It was the best one?
[A 23:17]: Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two.
[A 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too. Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of— was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember? You weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah.
[A 30:00]: What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you? Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:45]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some homes you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths? There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[B 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good. Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time?
[B 39:59]: Just no for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16, or I'm donkey, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable. Back then, you're young, it was—
[B 40:26]: when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips.
[A 40:31]: That was the main thing. Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough. Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know. No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically— you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek.
[A 44:06]: I can't remember his second name. Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful, were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well. Oh God. You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans. Yeah.
[A 49:26]: Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee kitchen in the double, aye. The double was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got a shovel and all that and things like that, aye.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: Aye, because you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly. Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant? I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:01]: In the dining room, in the kitchen. Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone when she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay. Still there, fair enough. Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a mate. But I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, I actually think that years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back to the piano and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then.
[B 56:14]: It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[A 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe. Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really?
[A 58:08]: Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:15]: At this point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that when I was in there.
[B 58:24]: Not too bad then.
[A 58:26]: Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones. Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[A 60:13]: Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with? Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you? No, they weren't never explained.
[B 62:45]: They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train?
[B 63:49]: Yes, to Glasgow. That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions. No, they just let us on the train, that's it. I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up? That's kind of, that's them all.
[B 67:07]: It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay. Like, came back, that's up in co'. And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and leg. I get sleepless nights a lot. Okay.
[A 69:42]: How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah. It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact with people? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:50]: I think that's in my heart, mate. I'll be real, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out and things like that. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you, so yeah, I'm quite happy you've picked them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing, there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay.
[A 76:44]: Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they? Yeah.
[A 78:35]: And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it. Yeah, absolutely. It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2022? They brought this up. Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today? No, I think we've covered quite a lot. Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract. Was it?
[A 83:05]: Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle. I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant.
[B 83:32]: He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did.
[A 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure. Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back. Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few hundred-odd million worth of players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[2026-08-20 14:03:37] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 14:03:37] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 14:03:37] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif?
[B 02:15]: Yes.
[A 02:16]: Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant, and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mum and that. My mum was an alcoholic and all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sexists, so no, there was nothing to eat, no.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say there was 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:28]: Okay, that was that your father. If I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't the case. We were 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? Yeah, it is.
[B 11:39]: Hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set in objectivity, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's alright, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's alright.
[B 14:34]: Yeah, a couple of months. 6 months, eh?
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that, eh?
[A 14:49]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course.
[A 16:52]: Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:33]: Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean. So yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
[A 19:48]: Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hang of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the Scouse, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. The table, we used to set the table. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell. Yeah. Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr—
[A 25:42]: who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms? Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents. And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or No, not really.
[B 28:10]: No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that and throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom? No, it was dormitories. Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something. So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time? Just no, for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say, like, you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just going to pop that into the other box in our notes sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside. Right, yes.
[A 43:19]: Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there.
[A 43:27]: A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names? Yes, there was Charles Horne.
[B 48:28]: He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Like a grant?
[A 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted. Okay.
[A 52:39]: What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed.
[A 61:02]: Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely. And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints? Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report. There probably is.
[A 64:25]: I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the kingdom. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing—
[A 75:51]: there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't offer that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't. You shouldna.
[A 82:23]: Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back?
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif?
[B 02:15]: Yes.
[A 02:16]: Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant, and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mum and that. My mum was an alcoholic and all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sexists, so no, there was nothing to eat, no.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say there was 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:28]: Okay, that was that your father. If I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't the case. We were 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? Yeah, it is.
[B 11:39]: Hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set in objectivity, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's alright, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's alright.
[B 14:34]: Yeah, a couple of months. 6 months, eh?
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that, eh?
[A 14:49]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course.
[A 16:52]: Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:33]: Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean. So yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
[A 19:48]: Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hang of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the Scouse, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. The table, we used to set the table. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell. Yeah. Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr—
[A 25:42]: who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms? Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents. And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or No, not really.
[B 28:10]: No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that and throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom? No, it was dormitories. Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something. So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time? Just no, for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say, like, you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just going to pop that into the other box in our notes sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside. Right, yes.
[A 43:19]: Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there.
[A 43:27]: A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names? Yes, there was Charles Horne.
[B 48:28]: He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Like a grant?
[A 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted. Okay.
[A 52:39]: What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed.
[A 61:02]: Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely. And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints? Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report. There probably is.
[A 64:25]: I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the kingdom. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing—
[A 75:51]: there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't offer that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't. You shouldna.
[A 82:23]: Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back?
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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bye-bye.","start":5205886,"end":5206610,"confidence":0.62646246000000005427210680863936431705951690673828125},{"sentiment":"NEUTRAL","text":"Bye.","start":5206770,"end":5207028,"confidence":0.51374500000000000721200876796501688659191131591796875,"speaker":null}], `error` = ?, `synapse_transcripts`.`updated_at` = 2026-08-20 14:03:37 where `recording_id` = 4182) {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Database\\QueryException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif?
[B 02:15]: Yes.
[A 02:16]: Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant, and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mum and that. My mum was an alcoholic and all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sexists, so no, there was nothing to eat, no.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say there was 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:28]: Okay, that was that your father. If I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't the case. We were 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? Yeah, it is.
[B 11:39]: Hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set in objectivity, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's alright, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's alright.
[B 14:34]: Yeah, a couple of months. 6 months, eh?
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that, eh?
[A 14:49]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course.
[A 16:52]: Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:33]: Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean. So yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
[A 19:48]: Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hang of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the Scouse, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. The table, we used to set the table. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell. Yeah. Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr—
[A 25:42]: who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms? Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents. And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or No, not really.
[B 28:10]: No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that and throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom? No, it was dormitories. Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something. So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time? Just no, for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say, like, you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just going to pop that into the other box in our notes sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside. Right, yes.
[A 43:19]: Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there.
[A 43:27]: A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names? Yes, there was Charles Horne.
[B 48:28]: He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Like a grant?
[A 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted. Okay.
[A 52:39]: What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed.
[A 61:02]: Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely. And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints? Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report. There probably is.
[A 64:25]: I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the kingdom. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing—
[A 75:51]: there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't offer that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't. You shouldna.
[A 82:23]: Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back?
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif?
[B 02:15]: Yes.
[A 02:16]: Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant, and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yeah, so I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mum and that. My mum was an alcoholic and all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sexists, so no, there was nothing to eat, no.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say there was 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate, I'm not just basically— my mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:28]: Okay, that was that your father. If I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but it wasn't the case. We were 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies hoppin' up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? Yeah, it is.
[B 11:39]: Hold on, I think there's only 2. 2 floors? Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming down the LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set in objectivity, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's alright, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture, there's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically. Fair enough.
[A 14:11]: What about the kids, the other children there, were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's alright.
[B 14:34]: Yeah, a couple of months. 6 months, eh?
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that, eh?
[A 14:49]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed old, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course.
[A 16:52]: Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they're trained out to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change, or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—?
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:33]: Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean. So yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
[A 19:48]: Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones. Fife was the worst one?
[A 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hang of their arseholes. Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you— even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through into one.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly I'm used to the Scouse, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. The table, we used to set the table. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months. It wasn't that long.
[B 23:58]: Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherwell, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell. Yeah. Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah. That was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr—
[A 25:42]: who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley on the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye. Oh, bless you.
[A 26:08]: I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms? Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents. And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or No, not really.
[B 28:10]: No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah. Okay, you didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah. Okay, um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda.
[B 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that and throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and threw you in your room and locked you in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just— no. Yeah.
[A 31:26]: So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, I'm sure a few people in here now, you've witnessed it, you've seen it happening, and things like that.
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't. Yeah, absolutely.
[A 35:58]: Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue? No, Marie, I've got a can. Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was, there was like 1, 2, 3, I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom? No, it was dormitories. Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something. So you would go shopping with the staff for the food for supper time? Just no, for dinners and lunches, not just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually. Some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that, keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them? Eh, half and half.
[B 41:12]: Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say, like, you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just going to pop that into the other box in our notes sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside. Right, yes.
[A 43:19]: Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there.
[A 43:27]: A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name. Derek.
[A 44:08]: That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on. Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns? No, just blue. Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them.
[A 46:26]: Kemble was the best one. Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names? Yes, there was Charles Horne.
[B 48:28]: He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:07]: They were two main man in Bulrushy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bulrushy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people in Bulrushy, they were two main man.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them. Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie?
[B 50:09]: No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a bathroom.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay. So I had to be at school for 9.
[B 51:45]: Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. Like a grant?
[A 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there.
[B 52:12]: Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted. Okay.
[A 52:39]: What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes.
[B 52:58]: Where? Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that.
[A 53:16]: It was actually all right. Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah. And you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place. Okay, yeah. So I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No. I was too young to remember anything. What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 depois. Yeah, and Balrossie? 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay? It's just gonna be— yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed.
[A 61:02]: Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely. And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening? They should have been aware.
[B 61:26]: I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with. Yeah.
[A 61:55]: Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints? Threatened? Aye. And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacomb, Kilmacomb, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacomb, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report. There probably is.
[A 64:25]: I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away? Just didn't like the place.
[B 64:34]: Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school. Right, okay. I remember that. It was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get to fuck and just that's you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol, okay.
[B 68:21]: Like, came back, that's up in co'.
[A 68:25]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent, okay. I get medication off the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, because I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink over the years.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse? No, I've never took drugs.
[B 68:48]: Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah.
[B 72:45]: And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, um, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the kingdom. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing—
[A 75:51]: there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kind of said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kind of especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't offer that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that.
[A 81:50]: Absolutely. And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could say a lot of strong words, but I just couldn't. You shouldna.
[A 82:23]: Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now. Has he?
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back?
[B 84:29]: Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the office, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#42 {main}
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[2026-08-20 14:03:37] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was anyone else that I wasn't separated to but we were separated to another wee house in Anfield about 10 years ago.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? There's only 2 floors.
[B 11:43]: It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two. Mixture, mixture.
[B 14:06]: Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:32]: Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months. Yeah.
[A 14:36]: What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye? Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hens. They just, I don't think they're trained right to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort?
[B 19:03]: Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right, okay. Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us. Okay.
[A 21:49]: And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one? The staff are actually very nice.
[B 25:31]: The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin.
[B 25:44]: I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and looking in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes. Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that. Yeah.
[A 37:18]: So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to show up if you want to show up," and so on.
[A 38:31]: Okay. What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them, I dunno. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[B 44:44]: Okay. I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half? Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually all right now. Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go.
[A 54:57]: I actually liked it. Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them? Yes, it was just kind of—
[B 55:23]: Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, yeah.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? It's 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. And why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain, it's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it, that's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it? I know, that's kind of—
[B 69:00]: yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50.
[A 73:02]: I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually—
[B 78:57]: it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that. Absolutely.
[A 81:51]: And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season.
[B 83:13]: Not so much. That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them. Show me Obi. He was good. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever is Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant. Yeah, yeah.
[A 83:56]: I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back? Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was anyone else that I wasn't separated to but we were separated to another wee house in Anfield about 10 years ago.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? There's only 2 floors.
[B 11:43]: It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two. Mixture, mixture.
[B 14:06]: Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:32]: Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months. Yeah.
[A 14:36]: What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye? Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hens. They just, I don't think they're trained right to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort?
[B 19:03]: Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right, okay. Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us. Okay.
[A 21:49]: And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one? The staff are actually very nice.
[B 25:31]: The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin.
[B 25:44]: I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and looking in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes. Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that. Yeah.
[A 37:18]: So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to show up if you want to show up," and so on.
[A 38:31]: Okay. What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them, I dunno. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[B 44:44]: Okay. I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half? Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually all right now. Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go.
[A 54:57]: I actually liked it. Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them? Yes, it was just kind of—
[B 55:23]: Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, yeah.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? It's 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. And why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain, it's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it, that's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it? I know, that's kind of—
[B 69:00]: yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50.
[A 73:02]: I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually—
[B 78:57]: it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that. Absolutely.
[A 81:51]: And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season.
[B 83:13]: Not so much. That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them. Show me Obi. He was good. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever is Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant. Yeah, yeah.
[A 83:56]: I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back? Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was anyone else that I wasn't separated to but we were separated to another wee house in Anfield about 10 years ago.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? There's only 2 floors.
[B 11:43]: It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two. Mixture, mixture.
[B 14:06]: Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:32]: Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months. Yeah.
[A 14:36]: What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye? Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hens. They just, I don't think they're trained right to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort?
[B 19:03]: Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right, okay. Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us. Okay.
[A 21:49]: And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one? The staff are actually very nice.
[B 25:31]: The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin.
[B 25:44]: I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and looking in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes. Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that. Yeah.
[A 37:18]: So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to show up if you want to show up,\" and so on.
[A 38:31]: Okay. What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them, I dunno. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[B 44:44]: Okay. I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half? Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually all right now. Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go.
[A 54:57]: I actually liked it. Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them? Yes, it was just kind of—
[B 55:23]: Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, yeah.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? It's 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. And why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain, it's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it, that's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it? I know, that's kind of—
[B 69:00]: yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50.
[A 73:02]: I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually—
[B 78:57]: it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that. Absolutely.
[A 81:51]: And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season.
[B 83:13]: Not so much. That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them. Show me Obi. He was good. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever is Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant. Yeah, yeah.
[A 83:56]: I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back? Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was anyone else that I wasn't separated to but we were separated to another wee house in Anfield about 10 years ago.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? There's only 2 floors.
[B 11:43]: It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two. Mixture, mixture.
[B 14:06]: Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:32]: Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months. Yeah.
[A 14:36]: What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye? Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hens. They just, I don't think they're trained right to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort?
[B 19:03]: Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right, okay. Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us. Okay.
[A 21:49]: And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one? The staff are actually very nice.
[B 25:31]: The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin.
[B 25:44]: I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and looking in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes. Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that. Yeah.
[A 37:18]: So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to show up if you want to show up,\" and so on.
[A 38:31]: Okay. What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them, I dunno. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[B 44:44]: Okay. I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half? Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually all right now. Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go.
[A 54:57]: I actually liked it. Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them? Yes, it was just kind of—
[B 55:23]: Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, yeah.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? It's 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. And why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain, it's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it, that's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it? I know, that's kind of—
[B 69:00]: yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50.
[A 73:02]: I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually—
[B 78:57]: it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that. Absolutely.
[A 81:51]: And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season.
[B 83:13]: Not so much. That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them. Show me Obi. He was good. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever is Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant. Yeah, yeah.
[A 83:56]: I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back? Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
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#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
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#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
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[2026-08-20 14:03:56] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was anyone else that I wasn't separated to but we were separated to another wee house in Anfield about 10 years ago.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? There's only 2 floors.
[B 11:43]: It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two. Mixture, mixture.
[B 14:06]: Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:32]: Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months. Yeah.
[A 14:36]: What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye? Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hens. They just, I don't think they're trained right to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort?
[B 19:03]: Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right, okay. Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us. Okay.
[A 21:49]: And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one? The staff are actually very nice.
[B 25:31]: The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin.
[B 25:44]: I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and looking in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes. Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that. Yeah.
[A 37:18]: So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to show up if you want to show up," and so on.
[A 38:31]: Okay. What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them, I dunno. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[B 44:44]: Okay. I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half? Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually all right now. Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go.
[A 54:57]: I actually liked it. Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them? Yes, it was just kind of—
[B 55:23]: Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, yeah.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? It's 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. And why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain, it's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it, that's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it? I know, that's kind of—
[B 69:00]: yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50.
[A 73:02]: I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually—
[B 78:57]: it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that. Absolutely.
[A 81:51]: And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season.
[B 83:13]: Not so much. That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them. Show me Obi. He was good. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever is Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant. Yeah, yeah.
[A 83:56]: I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back? Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was anyone else that I wasn't separated to but we were separated to another wee house in Anfield about 10 years ago.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? There's only 2 floors.
[B 11:43]: It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two. Mixture, mixture.
[B 14:06]: Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:32]: Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months. Yeah.
[A 14:36]: What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye? Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hens. They just, I don't think they're trained right to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort?
[B 19:03]: Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right, okay. Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us. Okay.
[A 21:49]: And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one? The staff are actually very nice.
[B 25:31]: The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin.
[B 25:44]: I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and looking in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes. Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that. Yeah.
[A 37:18]: So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to show up if you want to show up," and so on.
[A 38:31]: Okay. What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them, I dunno. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[B 44:44]: Okay. I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half? Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually all right now. Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go.
[A 54:57]: I actually liked it. Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them? Yes, it was just kind of—
[B 55:23]: Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, yeah.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? It's 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. And why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain, it's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it, that's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it? I know, that's kind of—
[B 69:00]: yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50.
[A 73:02]: I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually—
[B 78:57]: it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that. Absolutely.
[A 81:51]: And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season.
[B 83:13]: Not so much. That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them. Show me Obi. He was good. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever is Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant. Yeah, yeah.
[A 83:56]: I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back? Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was anyone else that I wasn't separated to but we were separated to another wee house in Anfield about 10 years ago.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? There's only 2 floors.
[B 11:43]: It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two. Mixture, mixture.
[B 14:06]: Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:32]: Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months. Yeah.
[A 14:36]: What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye? Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hens. They just, I don't think they're trained right to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort?
[B 19:03]: Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right, okay. Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us. Okay.
[A 21:49]: And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one? The staff are actually very nice.
[B 25:31]: The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin.
[B 25:44]: I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and looking in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes. Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that. Yeah.
[A 37:18]: So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to show up if you want to show up,\" and so on.
[A 38:31]: Okay. What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them, I dunno. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[B 44:44]: Okay. I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half? Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually all right now. Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go.
[A 54:57]: I actually liked it. Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them? Yes, it was just kind of—
[B 55:23]: Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, yeah.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? It's 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. And why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain, it's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it, that's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it? I know, that's kind of—
[B 69:00]: yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50.
[A 73:02]: I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually—
[B 78:57]: it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that. Absolutely.
[A 81:51]: And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season.
[B 83:13]: Not so much. That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them. Show me Obi. He was good. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever is Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant. Yeah, yeah.
[A 83:56]: I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back? Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to redress and agree that it can be used for your redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie and South Pleasant. That's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up, they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father. All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was anyone else that I wasn't separated to but we were separated to another wee house in Anfield about 10 years ago.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There was two houses, so there was two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and then there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember? There's only 2 floors.
[B 11:43]: It's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD voting, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember. Don't remember.
[A 12:47]: What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that.
[A 13:17]: Sorry about that. That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her, because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:37]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right, some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two. Mixture, mixture.
[B 14:06]: Mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August.
[B 14:32]: Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months. Yeah, a couple of months. Yeah.
[A 14:36]: What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I— okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye? Yeah, absolutely.
[A 15:34]: How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because you've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay. Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know. Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hens. They just, I don't think they're trained right to start to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over? Same thing over and over.
[B 17:17]: You always knew when you turned the day just to worry about you getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay. I remember that much. Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:57]: You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. That's how you used to run away, because you were feared. Yeah. Probably. You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort?
[B 19:03]: Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just— you never really—
[B 19:24]: you never got home, you met all nice people.
[A 19:27]: Never happens. You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right, okay. Sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People, I mean, there's people who probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one? One of them, aye. Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us. Okay.
[A 21:49]: And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom? Top floor. Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new?
[B 23:42]: Covenants I came to home, right? Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah. Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two.
[B 24:56]: And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one? The staff are actually very nice.
[B 25:31]: The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin.
[B 25:44]: I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona.
[A 27:06]: They were named after islands. And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room? There was a kitchen, dining room, yes.
[B 27:29]: Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths.
[A 27:54]: I remember that back then. Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have. Yeah, okay.
[A 28:29]: Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae, no. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them? I cannae remember. Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken. No, I can't remember.
[B 29:05]: Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone. That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all. So they would take you to your room? Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and looking in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? Yeah, the staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just—
[B 31:40]: I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me.
[A 32:23]: He actually punched me. And where did that hit? At my face. Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence? No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes. And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Mayfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? Have to go and do it yourself, yes. Okay, and some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them were alright, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mustn't go around, some homes you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement, okay? Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a listed building, so they didn't understand that. Yeah.
[A 37:18]: So again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you? In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all. Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks.
[A 38:17]: There wasn't any baths, no. Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:27]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to show up if you want to show up,\" and so on.
[A 38:31]: Okay. What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food? Food was actually quite good, actually.
[B 38:49]: She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get— they used to— that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you picked what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them, I dunno. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean. Yeah. And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie? Physical and neglect.
[B 42:48]: Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle that. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there.
[B 43:27]: A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee plate off the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing? A wash. A wash. A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed? Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[B 44:44]: Okay. I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie, as I said, was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:20]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'.
[A 47:26]: You'll probably notice that a lot. Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay. Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's her second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut. Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea and a couple of Weetabix. Couple of Weetabix, that's all. You had to get up in the morning, you got to shovel and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shovel and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half? Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually all right now. Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a wee bit of angst because you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of—
[B 54:31]: actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it.
[A 54:35]: I actually liked it. Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go.
[A 54:57]: I actually liked it. Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them? Yes, it was just kind of—
[B 55:23]: Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was a nice bloke. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, yeah.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed.
[B 56:16]: Ah, okay, okay. It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: They just tended to say, well, actually, some of the staff are alright, and you said to them and all. The staff are actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble, or were you okay? It was alright.
[B 57:04]: The first couple of nights, you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people. Oh really? Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there. Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying—
[A 58:35]: Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, 80 the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? It's 80,000. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all. Don't worry. And why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened? Aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas? Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris.
[B 65:21]: The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left. There was no support? No, I think you should have been supported when you left here.
[A 66:20]: I would have to agree, especially when you're—
[B 66:23]: I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you'd think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks with you in your brain, it's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it, that's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it? I know, that's kind of—
[B 69:00]: yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust. Yeah. I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah.
[A 70:12]: What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone? Not kind of.
[B 70:19]: I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them that much, you know what I mean? I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it? It's up and down. Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work? I'm on disability, aye.
[B 72:28]: Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50.
[A 73:02]: I think it just comes and goes. Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:47]: So how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No. Okay. As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's not a thing that a lot of people talk about, it's not a thing that Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think.
[A 75:47]: Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential. Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean? You don't need to.
[B 76:02]: I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that? Amitriptyline. And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets? Quite a few.
[B 76:49]: Some of Aston. Okay. And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay. I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely. It's actually—
[B 78:57]: it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homesick, committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's where it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should've been happening, there should've been rules, there should've been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely. Ah, because it's just—
[B 79:55]: you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice. I think you've got to obey the conversation.
[B 81:10]: I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby, that's you. I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme, that should have been years before that. Absolutely.
[A 81:51]: And dealt with before that. Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No, okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am. He signed last—
[B 82:50]: when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season.
[B 83:13]: Not so much. That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them. Show me Obi. He was good. He was good.
[B 83:46]: Yeah, one of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever is Faustino Asprilla. Yes. Yeah, him and Genoa were brilliant. Yeah, yeah.
[A 83:56]: I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle. I know, that's why I'm a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: I've bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, a right-back? Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
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#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
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#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
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#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
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#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
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#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
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#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
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#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
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#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
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#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
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#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
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#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
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[2026-08-20 14:04:21] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in that apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated, we were separated. I don't know how many we were separated from, I think it was 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Like this, hold on. I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or setting of justice, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older.
[B 18:17]: Okay.
[A 18:24]: Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:16]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. Too young. So I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:41]: Over in a case before, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae remember.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: The staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just no.
[A 31:25]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just, I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:21]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying?
[A 43:12]: Yeah.
[B 43:14]: You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on your shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a parcel.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an expert. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't, you know. But as you're saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:28]: It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, that should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in that apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated, we were separated. I don't know how many we were separated from, I think it was 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Like this, hold on. I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or setting of justice, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older.
[B 18:17]: Okay.
[A 18:24]: Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:16]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. Too young. So I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:41]: Over in a case before, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae remember.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: The staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just no.
[A 31:25]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just, I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:21]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying?
[A 43:12]: Yeah.
[B 43:14]: You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on your shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a parcel.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an expert. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't, you know. But as you're saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:28]: It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, that should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in that apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated, we were separated. I don't know how many we were separated from, I think it was 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Like this, hold on. I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or setting of justice, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older.
[B 18:17]: Okay.
[A 18:24]: Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:16]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. Too young. So I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:41]: Over in a case before, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae remember.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: The staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just no.
[A 31:25]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just, I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:21]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying?
[A 43:12]: Yeah.
[B 43:14]: You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on your shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a parcel.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an expert. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't, you know. But as you're saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:28]: It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, that should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in that apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated, we were separated. I don't know how many we were separated from, I think it was 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Like this, hold on. I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or setting of justice, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older.
[B 18:17]: Okay.
[A 18:24]: Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:16]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. Too young. So I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:41]: Over in a case before, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae remember.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: The staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just no.
[A 31:25]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just, I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:21]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying?
[A 43:12]: Yeah.
[B 43:14]: You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on your shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a parcel.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an expert. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't, you know. But as you're saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:28]: It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, that should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#40 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
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[2026-08-20 14:04:22] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but I wasn't separated to anyone else other than 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care, did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No. Oh, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close with her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away, so kind of that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here? In Greif?
[B 12:26]: I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste? No, I don't remember. Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay? I don't actually remember what I ate. That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there? I don't actually.
[B 13:15]: I can't remember. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look. Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that. From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: It's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around why you were getting locked in the room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah. Probably.
[B 18:45]: You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't. So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay.
[A 20:24]: And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new? Covenants I came to home, right?
[B 23:44]: Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae remember. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly.
[B 29:31]: There's no You're all right? Some of them are all right, some of them were just—
[A 29:36]: shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean. What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda.
[A 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that.
[B 31:42]: I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for? Yeah, a good few hours. And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? That's a good day yourself, yes. Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get, they used to, that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks, you used to go shopping with the staff, they used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: Aye, for supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, nah, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash.
[A 44:20]: A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting? Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes. And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember? I can remember last names, I can't remember first names. First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room? Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes. Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember? Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no. And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the order, take it off, it's a security net more than anything.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: When I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow Lounge.
[A 58:13]: Hostels and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:16]: They'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah.
[B 58:21]: So they never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Aye, not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it.
[A 70:08]: And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself.
[A 70:40]: Yeah.
[B 70:42]: You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself? Yes, I kind of—
[B 71:04]: I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of— No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:51]: I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've put them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody.
[A 77:42]: I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged on the gallows back in the day.
[A 79:47]: I'm glad it should have happened back in the day. Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken much with you.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, right back? Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay? That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome. Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but I wasn't separated to anyone else other than 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care, did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No. Oh, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close with her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away, so kind of that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here? In Greif?
[B 12:26]: I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste? No, I don't remember. Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay? I don't actually remember what I ate. That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there? I don't actually.
[B 13:15]: I can't remember. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look. Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that. From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: It's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around why you were getting locked in the room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah. Probably.
[B 18:45]: You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't. So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay.
[A 20:24]: And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new? Covenants I came to home, right?
[B 23:44]: Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae remember. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly.
[B 29:31]: There's no You're all right? Some of them are all right, some of them were just—
[A 29:36]: shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean. What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda.
[A 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that.
[B 31:42]: I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for? Yeah, a good few hours. And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? That's a good day yourself, yes. Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get, they used to, that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks, you used to go shopping with the staff, they used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: Aye, for supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, nah, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash.
[A 44:20]: A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting? Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes. And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember? I can remember last names, I can't remember first names. First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room? Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes. Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember? Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no. And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the order, take it off, it's a security net more than anything.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: When I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow Lounge.
[A 58:13]: Hostels and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:16]: They'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah.
[B 58:21]: So they never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Aye, not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it.
[A 70:08]: And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself.
[A 70:40]: Yeah.
[B 70:42]: You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself? Yes, I kind of—
[B 71:04]: I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of— No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:51]: I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've put them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody.
[A 77:42]: I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged on the gallows back in the day.
[A 79:47]: I'm glad it should have happened back in the day. Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken much with you.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, right back? Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay? That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome. Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but I wasn't separated to anyone else other than 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care, did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No. Oh, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close with her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away, so kind of that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here? In Greif?
[B 12:26]: I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste? No, I don't remember. Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay? I don't actually remember what I ate. That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there? I don't actually.
[B 13:15]: I can't remember. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look. Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that. From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: It's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around why you were getting locked in the room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah. Probably.
[B 18:45]: You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't. So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay.
[A 20:24]: And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new? Covenants I came to home, right?
[B 23:44]: Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae remember. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly.
[B 29:31]: There's no You're all right? Some of them are all right, some of them were just—
[A 29:36]: shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean. What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda.
[A 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that.
[B 31:42]: I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for? Yeah, a good few hours. And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? That's a good day yourself, yes. Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get, they used to, that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks, you used to go shopping with the staff, they used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: Aye, for supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, nah, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash.
[A 44:20]: A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting? Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes. And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember? I can remember last names, I can't remember first names. First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room? Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes. Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember? Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no. And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the order, take it off, it's a security net more than anything.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: When I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow Lounge.
[A 58:13]: Hostels and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:16]: They'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah.
[B 58:21]: So they never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Aye, not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it.
[A 70:08]: And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself.
[A 70:40]: Yeah.
[B 70:42]: You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself? Yes, I kind of—
[B 71:04]: I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of— No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:51]: I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've put them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody.
[A 77:42]: I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged on the gallows back in the day.
[A 79:47]: I'm glad it should have happened back in the day. Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken much with you.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, right back? Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay? That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome. Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but I wasn't separated to anyone else other than 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care, did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No. Oh, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close with her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away, so kind of that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here? In Greif?
[B 12:26]: I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste? No, I don't remember. Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay? I don't actually remember what I ate. That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there? I don't actually.
[B 13:15]: I can't remember. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look. Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that. From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: It's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around why you were getting locked in the room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah. Probably.
[B 18:45]: You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't. So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay.
[A 20:24]: And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new? Covenants I came to home, right?
[B 23:44]: Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae remember. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly.
[B 29:31]: There's no You're all right? Some of them are all right, some of them were just—
[A 29:36]: shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean. What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda.
[A 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that.
[B 31:42]: I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for? Yeah, a good few hours. And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? That's a good day yourself, yes. Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get, they used to, that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks, you used to go shopping with the staff, they used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: Aye, for supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, nah, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash.
[A 44:20]: A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting? Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes. And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember? I can remember last names, I can't remember first names. First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room? Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes. Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember? Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no. And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the order, take it off, it's a security net more than anything.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: When I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow Lounge.
[A 58:13]: Hostels and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:16]: They'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah.
[B 58:21]: So they never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Aye, not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it.
[A 70:08]: And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself.
[A 70:40]: Yeah.
[B 70:42]: You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself? Yes, I kind of—
[B 71:04]: I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of— No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:51]: I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've put them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody.
[A 77:42]: I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged on the gallows back in the day.
[A 79:47]: I'm glad it should have happened back in the day. Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken much with you.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, right back? Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay? That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome. Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
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#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
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#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
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[2026-08-20 14:04:41] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but I wasn't separated to anyone else other than 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care, did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No. Oh, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close with her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away, so kind of that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here? In Greif?
[B 12:26]: I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste? No, I don't remember. Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay? I don't actually remember what I ate. That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there? I don't actually.
[B 13:15]: I can't remember. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look. Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that. From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: It's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around why you were getting locked in the room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah. Probably.
[B 18:45]: You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't. So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay.
[A 20:24]: And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new? Covenants I came to home, right?
[B 23:44]: Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae remember. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly.
[B 29:31]: There's no You're all right? Some of them are all right, some of them were just—
[A 29:36]: shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean. What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda.
[A 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that.
[B 31:42]: I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for? Yeah, a good few hours. And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? That's a good day yourself, yes. Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get, they used to, that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks, you used to go shopping with the staff, they used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: Aye, for supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, nah, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash.
[A 44:20]: A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting? Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes. And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember? I can remember last names, I can't remember first names. First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room? Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes. Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember? Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no. And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the order, take it off, it's a security net more than anything.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: When I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow Lounge.
[A 58:13]: Hostels and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:16]: They'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah.
[B 58:21]: So they never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Aye, not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it.
[A 70:08]: And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself.
[A 70:40]: Yeah.
[B 70:42]: You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself? Yes, I kind of—
[B 71:04]: I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of— No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:51]: I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've put them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody.
[A 77:42]: I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged on the gallows back in the day.
[A 79:47]: I'm glad it should have happened back in the day. Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken much with you.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, right back? Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay? That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome. Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but I wasn't separated to anyone else other than 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care, did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No. Oh, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close with her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away, so kind of that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here? In Greif?
[B 12:26]: I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste? No, I don't remember. Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay? I don't actually remember what I ate. That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there? I don't actually.
[B 13:15]: I can't remember. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look. Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that. From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: It's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around why you were getting locked in the room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah. Probably.
[B 18:45]: You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't. So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay.
[A 20:24]: And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new? Covenants I came to home, right?
[B 23:44]: Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae remember. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly.
[B 29:31]: There's no You're all right? Some of them are all right, some of them were just—
[A 29:36]: shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean. What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda.
[A 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that.
[B 31:42]: I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for? Yeah, a good few hours. And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? That's a good day yourself, yes. Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get, they used to, that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks, you used to go shopping with the staff, they used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: Aye, for supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, nah, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash.
[A 44:20]: A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting? Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes. And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember? I can remember last names, I can't remember first names. First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room? Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes. Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember? Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no. And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the order, take it off, it's a security net more than anything.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: When I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow Lounge.
[A 58:13]: Hostels and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:16]: They'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah.
[B 58:21]: So they never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Aye, not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it.
[A 70:08]: And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself.
[A 70:40]: Yeah.
[B 70:42]: You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself? Yes, I kind of—
[B 71:04]: I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of— No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:51]: I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've put them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody.
[A 77:42]: I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged on the gallows back in the day.
[A 79:47]: I'm glad it should have happened back in the day. Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken much with you.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, right back? Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay? That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome. Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but I wasn't separated to anyone else other than 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care, did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No. Oh, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close with her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away, so kind of that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here? In Greif?
[B 12:26]: I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste? No, I don't remember. Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay? I don't actually remember what I ate. That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there? I don't actually.
[B 13:15]: I can't remember. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look. Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that. From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: It's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around why you were getting locked in the room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah. Probably.
[B 18:45]: You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't. So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay.
[A 20:24]: And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new? Covenants I came to home, right?
[B 23:44]: Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae remember. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly.
[B 29:31]: There's no You're all right? Some of them are all right, some of them were just—
[A 29:36]: shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean. What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda.
[A 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that.
[B 31:42]: I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for? Yeah, a good few hours. And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? That's a good day yourself, yes. Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get, they used to, that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks, you used to go shopping with the staff, they used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: Aye, for supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, nah, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash.
[A 44:20]: A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting? Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes. And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember? I can remember last names, I can't remember first names. First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room? Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes. Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember? Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no. And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the order, take it off, it's a security net more than anything.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: When I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow Lounge.
[A 58:13]: Hostels and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:16]: They'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah.
[B 58:21]: So they never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Aye, not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it.
[A 70:08]: And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself.
[A 70:40]: Yeah.
[B 70:42]: You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself? Yes, I kind of—
[B 71:04]: I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of— No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:51]: I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've put them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody.
[A 77:42]: I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged on the gallows back in the day.
[A 79:47]: I'm glad it should have happened back in the day. Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken much with you.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, right back? Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay? That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome. Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but I wasn't separated to anyone else other than 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care, did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No. Oh, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close with her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away, so kind of that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here? In Greif?
[B 12:26]: I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste? No, I don't remember. Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay? I don't actually remember what I ate. That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there? I don't actually.
[B 13:15]: I can't remember. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look. Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that. From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: It's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around why you were getting locked in the room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah. Probably.
[B 18:45]: You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't. So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay.
[A 20:24]: And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new? Covenants I came to home, right?
[B 23:44]: Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae remember. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly.
[B 29:31]: There's no You're all right? Some of them are all right, some of them were just—
[A 29:36]: shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean. What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda.
[A 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that.
[B 31:42]: I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for? Yeah, a good few hours. And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? That's a good day yourself, yes. Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get, they used to, that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks, you used to go shopping with the staff, they used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: Aye, for supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, nah, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash.
[A 44:20]: A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting? Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes. And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember? I can remember last names, I can't remember first names. First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room? Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes. Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember? Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no. And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the order, take it off, it's a security net more than anything.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: When I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow Lounge.
[A 58:13]: Hostels and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:16]: They'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah.
[B 58:21]: So they never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Aye, not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it.
[A 70:08]: And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself.
[A 70:40]: Yeah.
[B 70:42]: You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself? Yes, I kind of—
[B 71:04]: I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of— No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:51]: I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've put them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody.
[A 77:42]: I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged on the gallows back in the day.
[A 79:47]: I'm glad it should have happened back in the day. Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken much with you.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, right back? Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay? That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome. Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
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#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
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#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
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#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
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#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
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#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
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#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
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#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
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#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
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#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
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[2026-08-20 14:04:41] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in that apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated, we were separated. I don't know how many we were separated from, I think it was 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Like this, hold on. I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or setting of justice, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older.
[B 18:17]: Okay.
[A 18:24]: Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:16]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. Too young. So I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:41]: Over in a case before, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae remember.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: The staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just no.
[A 31:25]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just, I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:21]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying?
[A 43:12]: Yeah.
[B 43:14]: You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on your shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a parcel.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an expert. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't, you know. But as you're saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:28]: It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, that should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in that apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated, we were separated. I don't know how many we were separated from, I think it was 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Like this, hold on. I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or setting of justice, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older.
[B 18:17]: Okay.
[A 18:24]: Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:16]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. Too young. So I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:41]: Over in a case before, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae remember.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: The staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just no.
[A 31:25]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just, I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:21]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying?
[A 43:12]: Yeah.
[B 43:14]: You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on your shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a parcel.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an expert. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't, you know. But as you're saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:28]: It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, that should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in that apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated, we were separated. I don't know how many we were separated from, I think it was 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Like this, hold on. I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or setting of justice, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older.
[B 18:17]: Okay.
[A 18:24]: Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:16]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. Too young. So I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:41]: Over in a case before, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae remember.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: The staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just no.
[A 31:25]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just, I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:21]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying?
[A 43:12]: Yeah.
[B 43:14]: You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on your shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a parcel.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an expert. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't, you know. But as you're saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:28]: It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, that should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in that apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated, we were separated. I don't know how many we were separated from, I think it was 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Like this, hold on. I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or setting of justice, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older.
[B 18:17]: Okay.
[A 18:24]: Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:16]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. Too young. So I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:41]: Over in a case before, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae remember.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: The staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just no.
[A 31:25]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just, I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:21]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying?
[A 43:12]: Yeah.
[B 43:14]: You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on your shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a parcel.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an expert. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't, you know. But as you're saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:28]: It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, that should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#40 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
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[2026-08-20 14:05:00] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4182 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #1)  
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[2026-08-20 14:05:01] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in that apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated, we were separated. I don't know how many we were separated from, I think it was 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Like this, hold on. I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or setting of justice, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older.
[B 18:17]: Okay.
[A 18:24]: Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:16]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. Too young. So I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:41]: Over in a case before, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae remember.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: The staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just no.
[A 31:25]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just, I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:21]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying?
[A 43:12]: Yeah.
[B 43:14]: You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on your shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a parcel.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an expert. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't, you know. But as you're saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:28]: It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, that should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in that apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated, we were separated. I don't know how many we were separated from, I think it was 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Like this, hold on. I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or setting of justice, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older.
[B 18:17]: Okay.
[A 18:24]: Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:16]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. Too young. So I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:41]: Over in a case before, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae remember.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: The staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just no.
[A 31:25]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just, I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:21]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying?
[A 43:12]: Yeah.
[B 43:14]: You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on your shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a parcel.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an expert. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't, you know. But as you're saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:28]: It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, that should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in that apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated, we were separated. I don't know how many we were separated from, I think it was 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Like this, hold on. I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or setting of justice, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older.
[B 18:17]: Okay.
[A 18:24]: Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:16]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. Too young. So I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:41]: Over in a case before, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae remember.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: The staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just no.
[A 31:25]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just, I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:21]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying?
[A 43:12]: Yeah.
[B 43:14]: You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on your shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a parcel.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an expert. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't, you know. But as you're saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:28]: It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, that should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
[A 86:46]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Greif Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters and me, so there's 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in that apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all.
[A 08:58]: From all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin. We were separated, we were separated. I don't know how many we were separated from, I think it was 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say, so how old were you when you first entered care? Did you say about 10?
[B 09:19]: Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry.
[A 09:22]: Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how I felt, because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close to her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away. So kind of, that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay?
[B 10:49]: Yes.
[A 10:49]: So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: Like this, hold on. I think there's only 2.
[A 11:42]: 2 floors?
[B 11:43]: Aye, but it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially. Some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or setting of justice, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here?
[B 12:25]: In Greif? I don't know, I can't remember.
[A 12:28]: Okay, that's okay.
[B 12:29]: Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste?
[B 12:45]: No, I don't remember.
[A 12:46]: Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay?
[B 12:50]: I don't actually remember what I ate.
[A 12:51]: That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there?
[B 13:14]: I don't actually. I can't remember that. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum?
[B 13:25]: No.
[A 13:26]: And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know.
[A 13:31]: Okay.
[B 13:32]: I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right.
[B 13:40]: And I can.
[A 13:46]: Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look.
[B 14:28]: Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that.
[A 14:30]: From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember?
[B 14:42]: No, I can't remember that.
[A 14:43]: Any punishments?
[B 14:46]: Ah, there was punishments. You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in?
[B 14:51]: Yes, I—
[A 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to—
[B 14:55]: that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample.
[A 15:22]: Okay.
[B 15:25]: And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, aye?
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: There's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arsed, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment?
[B 16:44]: I just can't remember that, to be honest.
[A 16:47]: That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanner the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around you were getting locked in a room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there?
[B 17:56]: Aye, just no choice. You'd either piss yourself or you'd shake yourself or you'd piss the place or something.
[A 18:02]: Yeah.
[B 18:03]: There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older.
[B 18:17]: Okay.
[A 18:24]: Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all. That was all the same. I used to wet your bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah.
[B 18:45]: Probably. You'll have heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed.
[A 18:52]: Yeah. And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif?
[B 18:57]: Yes.
[A 18:57]: Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any—
[B 19:04]: No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't.
[A 19:09]: So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep.
[B 19:30]: Right.
[A 19:31]: Okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room?
[B 19:55]: No, I just do what I say. People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye.
[A 20:19]: Okay. And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up there, back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me about them, just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif.
[B 21:30]: Yes.
[A 21:31]: So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school?
[B 21:39]: It was just— it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor.
[A 21:57]: Okay. Did you have your own bedroom or shared?
[B 22:03]: Own bedroom.
[A 22:04]: Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home?
[B 22:11]: Yes.
[A 22:13]: Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared?
[B 22:19]: Well, they're shared toilets, yes.
[A 22:20]: Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much of it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that.
[A 23:12]: Okay.
[B 23:13]: That was actually— Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:16]: It was the best one?
[B 23:17]: Yes.
[A 23:20]: Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember. Too young. So I just actually liked the home. I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home, or were you provided new?
[B 23:41]: Over in a case before, right? Yeah, I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Um, let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay, I left here and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. Um, what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 24:10]: No, no contact, no.
[A 24:11]: Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually, him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names?
[B 24:40]: Yeah, yes I do.
[A 24:41]: Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister.
[A 24:54]: Yeah.
[B 24:55]: That was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there too.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too. Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult?
[B 25:16]: No.
[A 25:16]: No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters.
[A 25:41]: And Mr— who, sorry?
[B 25:43]: His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well.
[B 26:14]: Yes.
[A 26:15]: What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house?
[B 26:20]: It was not, it was units. There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls.
[A 26:28]: It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside. Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it?
[A 26:48]: Yeah. So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right?
[B 27:12]: Yes, I was in Campsie and South.
[A 27:14]: Campsie and South?
[B 27:15]: No.
[A 27:16]: Okay. Okay, what about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share?
[B 27:41]: I had my own bedroom, yes.
[A 27:42]: Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths?
[B 27:59]: Yes.
[A 28:00]: Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really.
[A 28:10]: No, no.
[B 28:10]: Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you, go for a shower in the bathroom every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them.
[B 28:41]: Right.
[A 28:47]: And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush?
[B 28:53]: No, I cannae remember.
[A 28:55]: Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact?
[B 29:14]: Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no.
[A 29:18]: Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place?
[B 29:23]: Half and half. Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly. There's no— You're all right?
[B 29:34]: Some of them are all right, some of them were just— shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean.
[A 29:39]: What about the other children there?
[B 29:42]: Eh, it's kind of— some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda. You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you.
[A 29:57]: Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 30:33]: Yes.
[A 30:34]: And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hot and bothered and clearing your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse?
[B 31:05]: The staff.
[A 31:06]: The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just no.
[A 31:25]: Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after?
[B 31:37]: But it's just, just, I can't even remember what happened before that. I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area?
[B 31:50]: It was in a— no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry?
[B 31:56]: Just in a private bit.
[A 31:57]: In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: He actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming?
[B 32:35]: Yes, I suppose.
[A 32:37]: And then he locked you in your room?
[B 32:40]: Yes.
[A 32:41]: And how long were you left for?
[B 32:43]: Yeah, a good few hours.
[A 32:47]: And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults.
[A 33:09]: Yeah, that's what happens. Okay, now how often did this happen?
[B 33:20]: A couple of times.
[A 33:23]: But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. Just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all.
[A 33:44]: Okay. Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget. I just don't like that at all.
[A 34:12]: Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with?
[B 34:31]: Yes.
[A 34:31]: Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off?
[B 34:41]: Have to go and do it yourself, yes.
[A 34:43]: Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you?
[B 35:13]: Yes.
[A 35:18]: Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for? I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe. Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what was the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys.
[B 37:41]: Yes.
[A 37:42]: Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom. Yes.
[A 37:54]: Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone?
[B 37:59]: There was 30 people in there.
[A 38:00]: There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay.
[B 38:08]: Which I didn't agree with that either.
[A 38:10]: Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork?
[B 38:35]: School was in Neeples.
[A 38:37]: Okay, it was in there.
[B 38:38]: It was a boys' school, yes. You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options.
[A 39:26]: Okay.
[B 39:27]: Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get—
[A 39:31]: they used to—
[B 39:32]: that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks. You used to go shopping with the staff. They used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay.
[B 39:43]: That was quite good.
[A 39:43]: Yeah.
[B 39:44]: Back then it was unheard of. So they used to— we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: For supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, no, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and burgers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there?
[B 40:43]: Was it half and half? Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before.
[B 40:49]: Ah, yeah, it's kind of— some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm room before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:21]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4 there. You're stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it.
[A 41:47]: Yeah.
[B 41:48]: And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there.
[A 41:56]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 41:58]: You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember?
[B 42:05]: No, no.
[A 42:09]: And what about any punishments?
[B 42:12]: Ah, there was punishments. I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying?
[A 43:12]: Yeah.
[B 43:14]: You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened?
[B 43:25]: Happened a few times in there. A few times?
[A 43:27]: Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member?
[B 43:48]: That was a staff member.
[A 43:49]: And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my heels right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name.
[A 44:02]: So what was his name?
[B 44:05]: Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash. A lash.
[A 44:20]: A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room?
[B 44:39]: Yes.
[A 44:40]: And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were?
[B 45:01]: They were blue.
[A 45:03]: Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing?
[B 45:44]: Every now and then, yes.
[A 45:45]: Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye.
[A 46:01]: Okay. Okay.
[B 46:02]: The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no.
[A 46:15]: Okay.
[B 46:16]: Because I've not got to the last one yet.
[A 46:19]: Okay, go on then. I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting?
[B 46:41]: Yes, all.
[A 46:42]: All of it?
[B 46:44]: I couldn't wait to get out. I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting?
[B 46:55]: Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes.
[A 46:57]: And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not?
[B 47:02]: No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory. That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably notice that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember?
[B 47:44]: I can remember first names, I can't remember.
[A 47:46]: First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble.
[A 48:01]: Okay.
[B 48:02]: Another guy called Thomas Shirky, he was, he was a mate, sure, in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the headman.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people?
[B 49:01]: Yes.
[A 49:01]: Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay.
[B 50:10]: I'm glad it's shut.
[A 50:12]: Yeah.
[B 50:13]: So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998?
[B 50:31]: Yes.
[A 50:32]: What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room?
[B 50:49]: Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes.
[A 50:51]: Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a meal at 10 to go on your shows.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me?
[B 51:19]: I'm just getting a parcel.
[A 51:20]: Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember?
[B 51:39]: Eh, about 7:15, roughly.
[A 51:42]: Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform?
[B 51:57]: Just your own clothing.
[A 51:58]: Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one?
[B 52:42]: Could be nice, yes.
[A 52:43]: Yeah, were you given choice?
[B 52:45]: Yes, very good choice.
[A 52:52]: Okay, did you eat meals together?
[B 52:55]: Yes.
[A 52:58]: Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay?
[B 53:12]: Uh, yes, it was quite fine. It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and Kibble was just along from my house at the time.
[A 53:47]: Okay.
[B 53:48]: Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was a few that I asked could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no.
[A 54:27]: And what about any punishment?
[B 54:30]: No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an expert. I knew a few of the staff when I'm in the cab, I met a few of the staff and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay, do you know what, maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can stay there, you go, ah no, not a couple.
[A 56:03]: Yeah.
[B 56:03]: And you come back, you're down there and you go, ah, it's not that bad.
[A 56:06]: Yeah. Was it a secure unit?
[B 56:13]: No, it wasn't then. It's new.
[A 56:15]: It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it, and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of the richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:37]: I mean, you bet they're not much, because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good, that's all right.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there?
[B 57:35]: I felt safe.
[A 57:36]: Yeah.
[B 57:38]: And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago.
[A 57:48]: Yeah.
[B 57:49]: But it wasn't, you know. But as you're saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: Oh, when I was in the home zone, they only had the people.
[A 58:06]: Oh really?
[B 58:08]: Right, Kibble's opened up. Look at hostels, they've got Glasgow and stuff, haven't they? This point, they'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well. Yeah, so I never had all that, never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble?
[B 58:29]: No, Kibble was okay. I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice.
[A 58:39]: Yeah, that's fine.
[B 58:40]: I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay?
[B 59:11]: That was it.
[A 59:12]: Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered? No.
[B 59:19]: I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield?
[B 59:28]: Nah, I hated the place.
[A 59:30]: Yeah, and Balrossie?
[B 59:33]: Hated that as well.
[A 59:34]: Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse?
[B 59:55]: The names?
[A 59:56]: Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas?
[B 60:13]: Yes.
[A 60:14]: Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named?
[B 60:20]: No, that's it.
[A 60:21]: Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did. I think that happens. I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot when you're in homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility, reported police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't. They never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving.
[A 62:59]: Yeah. Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas?
[B 63:45]: Yes, me and 5 other boys.
[A 63:46]: Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk, there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 6 to 8 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because there were my pyjamas and a hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place.
[A 64:34]: Just didn't like it.
[B 64:36]: We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something.
[A 64:42]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train got wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to have been a police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no? There's got to be there somewhere.
[A 65:43]: Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so.
[A 66:25]: Yeah.
[B 66:27]: And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older, it just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed?
[B 68:18]: Just alcohol.
[A 68:19]: Just alcohol. Okay, that came back.
[B 68:22]: That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic?
[B 68:30]: Alcohol dependent.
[A 68:31]: Alcohol dependent.
[B 68:32]: Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it.
[A 68:35]: Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay. Never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough. That's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took a necky, mind.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no.
[A 69:21]: Okay. Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems?
[B 69:32]: I've got— I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it. And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels.
[A 70:11]: Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of.
[A 70:21]: Okay.
[B 70:22]: I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself. Yeah. You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected?
[B 70:56]: Yes.
[A 70:57]: Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself?
[B 71:03]: Yes, I kind of— I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer.
[A 71:11]: Okay.
[B 71:12]: I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people. And that's part of the reason.
[A 71:21]: Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down. Aye.
[A 71:38]: Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that?
[B 71:47]: It's just isolation, basically. Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now.
[B 72:09]: Aye.
[A 72:10]: How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that.
[A 72:24]: You don't work?
[B 72:25]: I'm on disability, aye.
[A 72:28]: Okay.
[B 72:28]: It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it. Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of—
[A 72:49]: No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is. It's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 73:04]: It's always there. It's not going away, I don't think.
[A 73:06]: Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay. You don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact?
[B 73:47]: I avoid contact with people, yes. I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath?
[B 73:59]: Could have went away through and after myself. Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've been on. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. Mm. Oh, these days, no, you've not got a life.
[A 75:25]: Yeah. Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support?
[B 75:35]: No.
[A 75:36]: Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to.
[A 76:02]: I know it's your business.
[B 76:04]: I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication?
[B 76:27]: I take medication just now.
[A 76:30]: Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets?
[B 76:39]: No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth.
[A 76:42]: Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now?
[B 77:27]: No.
[A 77:28]: No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim?
[B 77:40]: No, I don't. I've not told anybody. I've not said to anybody about it.
[A 77:44]: Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore.
[A 79:12]: Yeah.
[B 79:15]: It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged down the tear holes back in the day. I'm glad it should have happened back in the day.
[A 79:49]: Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it.
[A 80:07]: Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology.
[B 80:10]: I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I don't think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better and that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young and maybe your future and that. Your future's basically fucked, if you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, that should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken for much of years.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me, I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully?
[B 82:15]: No.
[A 82:15]: No, okay.
[B 82:17]: How are you feeling? I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much. I'm not a big swearer.
[A 82:30]: No, only when necessary, eh?
[B 82:34]: I know, Celtic's playing tonight.
[A 82:38]: You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August?
[A 82:53]: Oh, was it? Oh God.
[B 82:55]: He signed in January.
[A 82:57]: Ah.
[B 82:59]: A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much.
[B 83:16]: That's a good point.
[A 83:19]: No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer. I liked him.
[A 83:26]: I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was—
[A 83:34]: Yeah, he did.
[B 83:36]: Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Myobi.
[B 83:45]: He was good.
[A 83:45]: He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla.
[A 83:51]: Yes, yeah.
[B 83:53]: Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet.
[B 84:24]: I know.
[A 84:25]: Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica.
[B 84:28]: Ah, a right-back.
[A 84:29]: Yeah.
[B 84:31]: The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City.
[A 84:34]: Can't spend it though, can we?
[B 84:36]: I know.
[A 84:36]: It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, God. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me?
[B 85:08]: Yes, aye, it's better.
[A 85:10]: Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face, and they'll say, yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick. It's in like 20 seconds, and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it.
[B 86:19]: No problem.
[A 86:20]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 86:23]: Yes.
[A 86:23]: Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay?
[B 86:35]: That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome.
[A 86:36]: Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay?
[B 86:41]: No problem, enjoy your day.
[A 86:42]: You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon.
[B 86:45]: Thank you, bye-bye.
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[2026-08-20 14:05:01] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but I wasn't separated to anyone else other than 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care, did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No. Oh, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close with her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away, so kind of that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here? In Greif?
[B 12:26]: I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste? No, I don't remember. Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay? I don't actually remember what I ate. That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there? I don't actually.
[B 13:15]: I can't remember. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look. Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that. From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: It's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around why you were getting locked in the room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah. Probably.
[B 18:45]: You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't. So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay.
[A 20:24]: And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new? Covenants I came to home, right?
[B 23:44]: Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae remember. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly.
[B 29:31]: There's no You're all right? Some of them are all right, some of them were just—
[A 29:36]: shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean. What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda.
[A 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that.
[B 31:42]: I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for? Yeah, a good few hours. And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? That's a good day yourself, yes. Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get, they used to, that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks, you used to go shopping with the staff, they used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: Aye, for supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, nah, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash.
[A 44:20]: A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting? Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes. And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember? I can remember last names, I can't remember first names. First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room? Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes. Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember? Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no. And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the order, take it off, it's a security net more than anything.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: When I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow Lounge.
[A 58:13]: Hostels and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:16]: They'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah.
[B 58:21]: So they never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Aye, not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it.
[A 70:08]: And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself.
[A 70:40]: Yeah.
[B 70:42]: You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself? Yes, I kind of—
[B 71:04]: I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of— No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:51]: I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've put them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody.
[A 77:42]: I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged on the gallows back in the day.
[A 79:47]: I'm glad it should have happened back in the day. Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken much with you.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, right back? Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay? That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome. Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but I wasn't separated to anyone else other than 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care, did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No. Oh, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close with her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away, so kind of that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here? In Greif?
[B 12:26]: I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste? No, I don't remember. Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay? I don't actually remember what I ate. That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there? I don't actually.
[B 13:15]: I can't remember. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look. Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that. From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: It's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around why you were getting locked in the room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah. Probably.
[B 18:45]: You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't. So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay.
[A 20:24]: And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new? Covenants I came to home, right?
[B 23:44]: Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae remember. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly.
[B 29:31]: There's no You're all right? Some of them are all right, some of them were just—
[A 29:36]: shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean. What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda.
[A 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that.
[B 31:42]: I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for? Yeah, a good few hours. And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? That's a good day yourself, yes. Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, "I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out." Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get, they used to, that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks, you used to go shopping with the staff, they used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: Aye, for supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, nah, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash.
[A 44:20]: A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting? Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes. And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, "Oh, it's okay." No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember? I can remember last names, I can't remember first names. First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room? Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes. Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember? Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no. And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the order, take it off, it's a security net more than anything.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: When I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow Lounge.
[A 58:13]: Hostels and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:16]: They'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah.
[B 58:21]: So they never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Aye, not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it.
[A 70:08]: And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself.
[A 70:40]: Yeah.
[B 70:42]: You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself? Yes, I kind of—
[B 71:04]: I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, "Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head." Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of— No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:51]: I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've put them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody.
[A 77:42]: I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged on the gallows back in the day.
[A 79:47]: I'm glad it should have happened back in the day. Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken much with you.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, right back? Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay? That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome. Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but I wasn't separated to anyone else other than 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care, did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No. Oh, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close with her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away, so kind of that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here? In Greif?
[B 12:26]: I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste? No, I don't remember. Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay? I don't actually remember what I ate. That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there? I don't actually.
[B 13:15]: I can't remember. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look. Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that. From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: It's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around why you were getting locked in the room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah. Probably.
[B 18:45]: You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't. So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay.
[A 20:24]: And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new? Covenants I came to home, right?
[B 23:44]: Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae remember. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly.
[B 29:31]: There's no You're all right? Some of them are all right, some of them were just—
[A 29:36]: shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean. What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda.
[A 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that.
[B 31:42]: I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for? Yeah, a good few hours. And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? That's a good day yourself, yes. Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get, they used to, that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks, you used to go shopping with the staff, they used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: Aye, for supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, nah, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash.
[A 44:20]: A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting? Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes. And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember? I can remember last names, I can't remember first names. First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room? Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes. Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember? Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no. And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the order, take it off, it's a security net more than anything.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: When I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow Lounge.
[A 58:13]: Hostels and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:16]: They'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah.
[B 58:21]: So they never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Aye, not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it.
[A 70:08]: And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself.
[A 70:40]: Yeah.
[B 70:42]: You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself? Yes, I kind of—
[B 71:04]: I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of— No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:51]: I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've put them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody.
[A 77:42]: I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged on the gallows back in the day.
[A 79:47]: I'm glad it should have happened back in the day. Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken much with you.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, right back? Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay? That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome. Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hi there, can I speak to Patrick Bishop? Hi Patrick, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal to do your witness statement. Is now still a good time for you?
[B 00:11]: Yes, it was.
[A 00:12]: Perfect. Before I start, I do just have to let you know that call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes, and for data protection, could you confirm your date of birth and your postcode for me please?
[B 00:25]: 10th of August 1993, postcode PSD1NH.
[A 00:28]: Amazing, thank you very much. So just before I get into the actual witness statement itself, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions just so I know that we can still continue. Let me just get them up. Have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse received in care?
[B 00:55]: No.
[A 00:56]: No. Have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision? No. No. Okay, no worries at all. And are you comfortable and happy to continue today?
[B 01:14]: Yes, that's all.
[A 01:16]: Yeah. Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments?
[B 01:21]: No, actually, no. I just like doing things myself.
[A 01:24]: Okay, fair enough. Do you understand that the purpose of the statement is to be sent to Redress and agree that it can be used for your Redress application and any supporting evidence?
[B 01:35]: Yes, I know that.
[A 01:36]: Perfect. I've created a bit of a chronology of care, so a bit of a timeline of your care settings. I would like to go through that with you first just to ensure that I'm not missing any, okay? Okay, so in 1992 I have Griff Children's Home.
[B 01:57]: Great, that's good.
[A 01:58]: Greif, sorry, that's my, that's my bad. I've got Greif Children's Home. I'm not very good at the pronunciation part. And then in 1994 I've got a Beach Avenue.
[B 02:11]: Beach Avenue was before Greif.
[A 02:14]: Before Greif, yes. Okay, um, you just bear with me. Okay, so from the care records that we've received, it only states that Greif was the first one. So are you saying that there was Beech before Greif?
[B 02:54]: No, I just can't remember, but I'm sure Beech Avenue was before Greif. But my granny died when she died, 1991, '92, so it might be right then. Okay, that's what I meant to hear.
[A 03:12]: Um, I mean, the, the records that we have do show— so it was Grieve Children's Home in 1992.
[B 03:20]: Yes.
[A 03:21]: And then returned back to your mother.
[B 03:25]: Yes.
[A 03:25]: And then back into care in April 1994, and that was into Beech Avenue.
[B 03:32]: Right. Yes, that might be right. Yes.
[A 03:34]: Okay, no problem. And I've then got, after Beach Avenue, I've got Newfield Resource Centre.
[B 03:41]: Yes, that's right.
[A 03:42]: Yes, in the Campsie unit.
[B 03:45]: Yes, that's Campsie. And so if I was on— and that's in Johnstone.
[A 03:51]: Yes, I've then got Balrossie.
[B 03:54]: Yes, that's Balrossie Boys' Home, but end up— they call it Rossie Home now because it's shut.
[A 04:01]: Yes, I've then got Kibble.
[B 04:03]: Yes, that's it. I've been great. I've just—
[A 04:05]: yeah, no, that's okay, don't worry. I just wanted to clarify before we continued. I would hate for us to get halfway down and then, uh, missing something.
[B 04:14]: I think quite a few, so like 5 or something.
[A 04:18]: It looks like 1, 2— yeah, it looks like 5. And then after Kibble, you were released, uh, to relatives or friends?
[B 04:29]: Yes, I stayed with my gran for a couple of months and then I got my own house.
[A 04:32]: Okay, perfect. Well, if that's all correct, then let's crack on.
[B 04:36]: Okay.
[A 04:38]: I know you'll have to excuse any of my pronunciations. I'm not the best at this.
[B 04:43]: Some things I can't pronounce.
[A 04:47]: It's that most of it is like the towns and the city names.
[B 04:51]: I'm like One of them's in Culmacolm, one of them's in Johnstone, one of them's in Bridgerear, one of them's in Paisley, and one of them's in Hunterhall, that's in Paisley.
[A 05:02]: Yeah, well, I spent the first couple of months doing this job calling Renfrewshire, Roofrenshire. I think there was a few times I said North Ayrshire was North Asia, so, you know, we've got there now though. Okay, so I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this meeting. You can take a break, skip a question, or ask me to reword anything. Please note that some questions can be upsetting because they do concern your care in time and its impact, okay?
[B 05:39]: Yes, I know.
[A 05:40]: So where did you grow up and who did you live with before you went into care?
[B 05:45]: I lived with my mum before I moved here. I lived with my gran, and eventually she died. I was always with my mum on and off, and then I was with my gran on and off. I was kind of, I wasn't really in an actual setting, if you know what I mean.
[A 06:02]: Yeah, just a house or a flat?
[B 06:04]: Yeah, they were flats, aye.
[A 06:06]: Flats, yeah.
[B 06:08]: Yes.
[A 06:08]: And did you have your own bedroom?
[B 06:11]: No.
[A 06:12]: Shared?
[B 06:13]: Yes.
[A 06:14]: Okay. What was the food like at home? You know, just, was it nice home-cooked meals?
[B 06:19]: No, it's kinda just my mom and that. My mom was an alcoholic, all that, so never had anything like that. So there was like sex, so no, there's nothing to eat.
[A 06:30]: Okay. And you've got— did you say this, there were 6 of you, so there was 5 siblings?
[B 06:35]: Yes, 5.
[A 06:36]: And can I ask how many brothers and how many sisters?
[B 06:40]: There's 3 brothers, 3 sisters, and me, so 7.
[A 06:46]: Okay, and there was 7 of you all together?
[B 06:50]: Yes, and we stayed in the apartment.
[A 06:53]: Okay, and who did you share the bedroom with?
[B 06:56]: Me and my brothers and I.
[A 06:59]: Okay, are you the youngest or the middle? Middle. Middle. Okay, what about school? Did you still go to school before you went into care?
[B 07:15]: I was in primary school, I was in St. Fergus, but I was hardly there. Didn't go well, no. So it was basically your mum's fate on that one, just basically. My mum was an alcoholic, mum was always in and out of jail.
[A 07:29]: Okay, that was that your father? All right, if I do go silent at any moment, it is just so I can type up these notes, okay?
[B 07:40]: That's fine.
[A 07:41]: Uh, no problem.
[B 07:43]: I didn't get high school, didn't I?
[A 07:46]: You didn't go into high school?
[B 07:48]: No, I didn't get high school.
[A 07:50]: Okay. Um, how did you come to enter into the care system?
[B 07:59]: My gran died when I was— she died when I was 10, and my mum was— she was an alcoholic. And I think my mum ended up putting us into care because my gran died, but ended up— I was kind of— I wasn't good at school, so I was going to a boys' home anyway, but me and my brother were in a care with her, so Right, okay.
[A 08:23]: So it was your mum who made the decision. Were you ever told why you were put into care?
[B 08:27]: My mum always came down. She was an alcoholic, so basically put into care because of that, because she never did any visiting much. I always stayed with my aunt and gran, and she was always throwing us out and things like that.
[A 08:37]: Right, so you weren't told, but you kind of knew?
[B 08:40]: Yes, aye. Okay. We were told the day we walked in that we were going into care.
[A 08:44]: Okay. So I know you've got 6 siblings, obviously, besides yourself, so you've got 3 brothers and 3 sisters, and you're the middle child. Were you separated from any of them in care?
[B 08:55]: Yes.
[A 08:56]: How many?
[B 08:57]: From all—
[A 08:58]: —from all of them?
[B 09:00]: Yes, me and my brother Kevin here, we were not eh— be charmed if there was another one that I was separated to but I wasn't separated to anyone else other than 10 or something.
[A 09:14]: Okay. And did you say so how old were you when you first entered care, did you say about 10? Kind of taking it over, yes, sorry. Yeah, and how did you feel at the time of first entering care? You know, what were your first thoughts, if you can remember anything?
[B 09:30]: I don't know actually how you answer that one because I was quite young, you know what I mean? So sometimes when you're young, you don't tend to think about it. You kind of must feel like brothers and sisters and things like that, but you never really—
[A 09:41]: You never really thought about how you felt?
[B 09:44]: Nah, it's kind of when you're that young, you don't really think about it. No. Oh, I'm just so sad because my gran died, and if she didn't die, I don't think I'd be around here, to be honest with you.
[A 10:00]: Oh, bless. Were you very close with your gran?
[B 10:04]: I was very close with her. She was kind of— she was always there when she had cancer, so she passed away, so kind of that was That's from my wee staffies cocking up.
[A 10:17]: Bless you. Is there anything important about your childhood health, any learning needs, any vulnerability that should be recorded for redress?
[B 10:27]: No, I had ADHD when I was young.
[A 10:32]: Okay, I'll jot that down. Okay, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, and what I'm going to do in this section is I'm going to ask you a multitude of questions but for each care setting one by one, okay? Yes. So I know that there'll be some things that pop up where you're like, oh, that happened in that one as well, but I need to make sure I keep it chronological for when it gets sent to redress, okay? Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to start with Gryfe Children's Home. So from records, I can see that you entered there on the 12th of February 1992. Can I ask what kind of setting it was? So was it a house? Was it like a There's two houses, so there's two houses, different houses. Two houses. And which one were you in? Was there any name? Did it look—
[B 11:21]: No, just, just both of them are called the Grange. There was two different ones. There was a big house and there was a wee one next to it, a wee cottage.
[A 11:29]: Okay. And which one were you in? The big house?
[B 11:31]: Yes.
[A 11:33]: Okay. And how many floors was it, can you remember?
[B 11:39]: There's only 2 floors, it's quite a long, quite long at the back. I think it's still there, I'm not sure.
[A 11:52]: Potentially, some of them haven't really shut down, some of them have kind of, they've kept the building but changed what it's used for.
[B 11:58]: I know Paul Rossi shut down, so that's why I got moved, because it's coming under LSD building, so they moved us up.
[A 12:03]: Right, yeah. So what was the ordinary daily life like in Greif?
[B 12:12]: It was kind of, because you're young, it was kind of, I don't know, it was kind of, there wasn't any idea or set number of people, so you just had to exist there and adapt.
[A 12:20]: Yeah, so what about the actual, so did you have your own bedroom here? In Greif?
[B 12:26]: I don't know, I can't remember. Okay, that's okay. Kinda maybe, I think, but I can't remember the Greif that much because I was that young.
[A 12:33]: That's okay, I'll just— we'll take down what we can remember, and that's absolutely fine. What about toiletries? Can you remember if you were provided with shower gel, toothpaste? No, I don't remember. Don't remember. What about the food? Was the food okay? I don't actually remember what I ate. That's okay, I'm just literally going to list off some things, and if you can't remember, just say no, okay? Okay. What about school? Did you still go to school while in this setting?
[B 13:02]: Yes, when I was in the group, I was still going to Mr Patrick Bishop's for a couple of months.
[A 13:08]: Okay. What about clothing? Did you get provided any clothes there? I don't actually.
[B 13:15]: I can't remember. Sorry about that.
[A 13:19]: That's all right, don't worry. What about contact with family? Did you still see your mum? No. And was that your decision, her decision, or?
[B 13:29]: It was probably her because she was an alcoholic, you know. Okay. I just, you know, that young, I can't even remember anything about that one.
[A 13:36]: Well, I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday, so it's all right. And I can. Okay, what about the staff? What were the staff like?
[B 13:51]: Some of them were all right and some of them were just not all right. You always get that in homes. There's always a mixture. There's always ones that's alright, there's always ones that's not alright.
[A 14:00]: Okay, always just a bit of a mixture of, you know, there's always going to be one or two.
[B 14:04]: Mixture, a mixture of nice people and mixture of assholes, basically.
[A 14:10]: Fair enough. What about the kids, the other children there? Were they alright with you? Did you get along?
[B 14:16]: I can't remember, Mr Patrick Bishop. I can't remember any of them. I think I was only in there for a bit. I think it was the last few months I was in there.
[A 14:23]: I think from what I could see Actually, let me just have a little look. Maybe a bit over 6 months, maybe even more than that. From February until August. Oh, well, no, it's a couple of months.
[B 14:35]: Yeah, a couple of months.
[A 14:36]: Yeah. What about any rules? Were there any particular strict rules that you can remember? No, I can't remember that. Any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 14:47]: You were thrown in your room and locked in your room and things like that.
[A 14:48]: You would be thrown in your room and locked in? Yes, I—
[B 14:52]: okay, that's what they used to— that's— that happened in quite a lot of homes when I was young. You used to get locked in your rooms and all that, and you were bad and all that.
[A 15:00]: I have heard that from a couple of people, to be fair.
[B 15:04]: It's quite a lot of the bastards used to hit you and all that.
[A 15:07]: Did they hit you in Greif? No. No? Okay. Um, did anything happen in Greif that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful?
[B 15:19]: Just get locked in a room, things like that. I think that's ample. Okay. And grabbed and threw about. That's probably the same as physical abuse, I'd say.
[A 15:29]: Yeah, absolutely. How did it make you feel? You know, like at the time, like when you were being locked in your room, how would you feel?
[B 15:39]: You feel bad when they do that because you normally used to be locked up. It's like imprisonment. Especially when you're that lucky, you're only 10 years old, you go, ah, what's going on?
[A 15:48]: Yeah, absolutely. Um, was it all of the staff that were involved, only a particular few?
[B 15:55]: It's only a couple. It's certainly— I've noticed that, and I noticed that in the buy homes, isn't it? You always get ones that are brand new, you always get ones that are just arseholes, and you always get ones that shouldn't have been at home because they've been in jail.
[A 16:09]: Yeah, okay. Can you give me one clear example of this occurrence? So where and when did it occur? You know, what happened before?
[B 16:33]: Just give a You were told to do something, you never done it, and you used to be grabbed and threw in your room and all that, and strangled.
[A 16:40]: And what kind of thing would you do for that to be the punishment? I just can't remember that, to be honest. That's okay, that's okay.
[B 16:49]: Too young, you know, a 10-year-old, you know.
[A 16:50]: Yeah, yeah, of course. Did it happen often? Was it quite a regular occurrence?
[B 16:55]: Yes, it was often. Hang on, Grace, I'm just gonna spanny the hands. They just, I don't think they were trained right to start with to actually deal with people. The young ones are just, I think they just, we'll just put them in the group.
[A 17:08]: Yes, and what about, did it ever become worse or change or was it kind of just the same thing over and over?
[B 17:16]: Same thing over and over. You always knew when you turned the page or turned around why you were getting locked in the room.
[A 17:22]: What about when you were locked in your room, were you still, were you given any food or water?
[B 17:29]: No, they used to open the door but they're not bringing your dinner.
[A 17:33]: Would you have to eat your dinner in the room or were you allowed to go and eat with everyone else?
[B 17:37]: They used to bring up dinner. There wasn't a toilet in the room either, to be honest with you.
[A 17:42]: Okay.
[B 17:45]: I remember that much.
[A 17:46]: Yeah, so I know it sounds a bit— I know it can be a bit hard to talk about, but with there being no toilet, would you have an accident while you were in there? Aye, just no choice.
[B 17:58]: You either piss yourself or you shake yourself or you push the toilet or something. Yeah. There's no choice when you're locked in a room. It's just, it happened quite a lot back in the day.
[A 18:07]: Would you ask to go to the toilet or were you not able to?
[B 18:10]: It's extremely hard to go. You just get knocked.
[A 18:13]: It's just getting older. Okay. Okay, what immediate effects came from this kind of experience? Was there any pain or injury, any fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, any running away?
[B 18:34]: Yes, that was all, that was all the same. I used to wet the bed, used to run away, used to get fear. Something— that's how you used to run away, because you were feared.
[A 18:42]: Yeah. Probably.
[B 18:45]: You've heard that a lot, actually, and been involved in care, you've probably— that's where a lot of people run away because they've been wet in the bed. Yeah.
[A 18:53]: And I'm sorry to ask, but would you wet the bed in Greif? Yes. Yeah. And what would happen if you wet the bed? Were you given any, you know, any comfort? Were you given any— No. Certain staff were alright, certain ones weren't. So would they, like, say, change your sheets?
[B 19:11]: Yes, some of them are all right. So you'll probably hear about a lot. Some of them are already in certain homes. Some of them— it happens in other homes. You always meet nice people and then you meet assholes.
[A 19:20]: Yeah, happens absolutely everywhere. I mean, it's just—
[B 19:23]: you never really— you never got home, you met all nice people. Never happens.
[A 19:28]: You never get a full night's sleep. Right, okay.
[B 19:32]: I don't know, sometimes you wish for it, but it wasn't gonna happen, so you just had to go. That's when you're 10-year-old, I mean.
[A 19:43]: So yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Um, did this happen to anyone else, or did you ever— did anyone else ever witness this happening to you, you know, being locked in that room? No, I just do what I say.
[B 19:56]: People out there, people may probably witnessed it happening to me and all, but yeah, you're a lot young, you can't remember, but it did happen to other people. Used to happen to a lot of people in there.
[A 20:10]: Yeah, of course.
[B 20:13]: That was one of the worst ones.
[A 20:15]: Fife was the worst one?
[B 20:17]: One of them, aye. Okay.
[A 20:24]: And when you say you would be kind of, you know, grabbed or thrown into your room, was there ever any bruises, any handprints?
[B 20:32]: Yes, I was always bruised when they grabbed me and hit me and things like that. It always happened. Okay. You're 10, you're up, they go back that long, you can remember certain things but you can't remember it all.
[A 20:44]: Yeah, of course. And did you ever tell anyone or try and get any help because of that?
[B 20:49]: Yeah, I used to tell the night staff and all that, but when you're that young, you don't think they'll believe you when you've been in a home. They just shy me, or just ignore you. Yeah, even the nice ones, they used to say, right, I may borrow and just walk away and things like that. So, okay, you end up going like this, you end up seeing the hank of their arseholes.
[A 21:10]: Yeah, yeah, because they used to make you—
[B 21:13]: even if you made a complaint, you just get ignored because you're that young. Okay.
[A 21:27]: So that is everything for Greif. Yes. So I'm now going to move on to Beech Avenue. So I'm going to ask the same question again. What was Beech Avenue? Was it a home? Was it a residential school? It was just—
[B 21:40]: it was like two houses knocked into one. Just a home. It was just like two normal houses and they knocked it through and they won us.
[A 21:48]: Okay. And can you remember how many floors were in this house? 2 floors. And where was your bedroom?
[B 21:56]: Top floor. Okay.
[A 22:01]: Did you have your own bedroom or shared? Own bedroom. Own bedroom.
[B 22:07]: I think there was about 10 people in all or something.
[A 22:10]: In the home? Yes. Okay. What about the toilets? You know, was there— were they shared? Were the showers shared? Well, they're shared toilets, yes. Shared toilets, okay.
[B 22:22]: There's a couple of them, there's a couple on the top, one on the bottom.
[A 22:28]: Okay, no problem. Okay. And what about the food here?
[B 22:46]: It was actually all right, but you can't really remember much about it. Yeah, you're still going to school, you're in there, so mostly you're new to the school, you know what I mean?
[A 23:02]: What about, would you like eat dinner together or eat breakfast together?
[B 23:06]: Yes, you used to do that. Okay. That was actually, Beech Avenue was actually the best one.
[A 23:15]: It was the best one? Yes. Okay. What about hygiene-wise? Was there any toiletries provided?
[B 23:27]: I just cannot remember that, to be honest with you. I just cannot remember, too young. So I just actually liked the home, I thought it was quite good.
[A 23:35]: Yeah, no, that's absolutely fine. What about clothing? Did you go with the clothing that you had from home or were you provided new? Covenants I came to home, right?
[B 23:44]: Yeah. I can't actually remember getting any clues in there. I don't think I was in there that long either.
[A 23:51]: Let me have a little look and see. Yeah, Beach Avenue was about 2 months.
[B 23:57]: It wasn't that long. Okay. Because I left there and they put me on Newfield.
[A 24:02]: Yes, I've got Newfield. That's the next one, just for this one. What about contact with family? Was there still no contact? No, no contact, no. Okay, and what about the staff? What were they like?
[B 24:15]: Actually, it was a guy, a Mr Rankin, and his wife. They owned a fruit stall next to Bell Street. They were actually— him and his wife were actually buried inside.
[A 24:27]: Okay, okay, cool, got that. And what about the other children? Were they okay?
[B 24:33]: Yes, I know someone in from Cherries, so yes, they were actually all right.
[A 24:37]: You know some of the names? Yeah, yes I do. Can you give me just a couple? It just really helps to solidify the statement is all.
[B 24:45]: There was Elizabeth Campbell.
[A 24:50]: Yeah.
[B 24:51]: Sharon McAllister. Yeah, that was two. And then my brother Kevin, he was in there.
[A 24:58]: Your brother Kevin was in there too? Is he an older brother? Younger, okay. He's youngest. Youngest, okay, got that. Did anything happen here that you would now consider abuse, neglect, or harmful as an adult? No. No, okay. And I know the question is, what was different about this placement compared with the others? I know you said it was the best one. What made it the best one?
[B 25:28]: The staff are actually very nice. The husband— there was a husband and wife that owned the fruiters as well, but they ran that. So I don't know if you— I can't remember, but I knew Mr Rankin. He used to take us to the fruiters. And Mr— who, sorry? His name is Mr Rankin. I can't remember his first name. The fruiters in that, in Welshgate, were just along the way where I stayed in Paisley. So there's something called Paisley. On the fruiters, and he used to take you to the fruiters and that, and you just used to help yourself. I remember to see the shed and I just thought—
[A 26:00]: Okay, I'm glad that there was at least, you know, one place that was safe for you.
[B 26:04]: That was the only one, aye.
[A 26:06]: Oh, bless you. I'm going to move on now to Newfield. So I can see that you were there for about 6 months as well. Yes. What was Newfield in a sense of, was it a house? It was not, it was units.
[B 26:22]: There was like 4 or 5 different units because it was a residential home for boys and girls. It was a residential, okay, boys and girls, plus the school was inside.
[A 26:37]: Okay, and how many people were there to a unit? Can you remember it all? That's okay.
[B 26:46]: I'd say 6 plus, wasn't it? Yeah.
[A 26:49]: So we'll go with like just 6 or more to a unit, and you said there was about 4 or 5 units?
[B 26:58]: Yes, there was. They were named after islands: Campsie, South, Iona. They were named after islands.
[A 27:08]: And I've got you down as being in the Campsie unit, is that right? Yes, I was in Campsie and South. Campsie and South? No. Okay. Okay. What about the units? What did they look like? You know, was there a kitchen, dining room?
[B 27:27]: There was a kitchen, dining room, yes. Couches. Just looked like— the units kind of looked like a house, you know what I mean?
[A 27:35]: Okay. What about your bedroom? Did you have your own bedroom or did you share? I had my own bedroom, yes. Own bedroom. And what about bathrooms?
[B 27:45]: Yes, there was shared bathrooms, yes, for the residents.
[A 27:49]: And what about showers? Was there shared showers?
[B 27:52]: Eh, can't remember, but I know there was baths. I remember that back then.
[A 27:55]: Were they shared baths, so kind of everyone would take it in turns to use the baths? Yes. Okay. What about routines? Was there any specific kind of bathing routine, you know, was it you have to bath in the morning and night, or?
[B 28:09]: No, not really. No, no. Okay, I think it was kind of your choice, if you know what I mean.
[A 28:15]: Yeah, okay. You didn't have a choice? Oh, you had a choice?
[B 28:20]: It was up to you, but nobody ever said to you go for a shower in the bath every day, which I think you should have.
[A 28:26]: Yeah, okay. Um, what about the food?
[B 28:34]: I think it's actually all right, as I can remember, but I cannae remember that much, darling.
[A 28:38]: Yeah, again, it's just one of them. Right. And what about toiletries? Can you remember being provided shower gel, toothpaste, toothbrush? No, I cannae remember. Is that that you can't remember, you weren't given them?
[B 28:58]: I cannae remember.
[A 28:59]: Okay, no, that's okay. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't get that any mistaken.
[B 29:03]: No, I can't remember. Then I got to be about older. I know of it, but no, I can't remember that, no.
[A 29:09]: Okay, no problem at all. And what about contact with family? Was there still no contact? Eh, I don't think anybody ever came to see me in the tube, no. Okay. What about the staff? What were the staff like in this place? Half and half.
[B 29:23]: Half of them were alright, half of them were arseholes. Okay. I don't know what I need to put.
[A 29:29]: No, no, say what you need to say, honestly.
[B 29:31]: There's no You're all right? Some of them are all right, some of them were just—
[A 29:36]: shouldn't have been there, if you know what I mean. What about the other children there? Eh, it's kind of—
[B 29:42]: some of them are all right, some of them aren't. Kinda, they've probably seen this, they've probably seen the same as me. He was all right, he wasn't.
[A 29:49]: Yeah, well, you're never going to get along with everyone.
[B 29:52]: That's it, kinda.
[A 29:53]: You don't know them, so yeah, you go, ah, fuck you. Yeah. What about any rules? Was there any rules that you can remember from here? No. What about any punishments?
[B 30:08]: I used to get locked in your room and battered and all that in there. I didn't like that place at all.
[A 30:13]: So they would take you to your room?
[B 30:16]: Some of the staff used to hit you and things like that, throw you in your room and things like that.
[A 30:23]: Okay. So I know you've just said that, but I'll ask the same question again. Did anything happen there that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Yes. And how would you label that?
[B 30:37]: Physical abuse, getting hit and battered, and cleaning your room and locked in your room. I haven't done that. I just didn't like the place at all. I just couldn't stand it.
[A 30:49]: Okay.
[B 30:51]: And you've made a complaint, tell staff, as I said to you, you just get knocked. They just ignore you.
[A 31:01]: And who was responsible for the abuse, the physical abuse? The staff. The staff. And was there any, you know, was it just a particular set of staff or was it kind of all of them?
[B 31:11]: No, just this kind of, as I said to you, some of them are alright, some of them on me. Yeah, you know, it's not in order. You probably notice that in all your claims you're dealing with someone. A lot of people, some of the staff they like, and some of them they're just—
[A 31:23]: no. Yeah. So can you give me one clear example of a time when you were physically abused? What happened beforehand, what happened during, and what happened after? But it's just, just— I can't even remember what happened before that.
[B 31:42]: I remember getting hot grabbed and threw my room and things up.
[A 31:46]: So can you remember where it happened? You know, was it in a communal area? It was in a—
[B 31:50]: no, it wasn't in a communal area, it was in a private bit.
[A 31:54]: In a private what, sorry? Just in a private bit. In a private bit of the unit. And so what did the member of staff do?
[B 32:07]: They actually just grabbed me and And actually punched me and actually threw me on the bed, then locked the door.
[A 32:16]: Did he physically hurt you apart from grabbing you?
[B 32:20]: Yes, he actually whacked me. He actually punched me.
[A 32:27]: And where did that hit?
[B 32:29]: At my face.
[A 32:31]: Okay, and was there a mark after, I'm assuming? Yes, I suppose. And then he locked you in your room? Yes. And how long were you left for? Yeah, a good few hours. And can you remember what happened when you were let out of your room?
[B 32:51]: I was just like, my roommate, quite a nice staff actually, what happened to your face? I said he whacked me, and then all of a sudden, and get caught up a bit, I fail. That's what they used to say. Obviously, a young lady and they're adults, they've got to believe they're adults. Yeah, that's what happens.
[A 33:16]: Okay, now how often did this happen? A couple of times. But it wasn't a regular occurrence?
[B 33:26]: No, it's just Couple of times with certain staff, yes.
[A 33:29]: And did it ever change or become worse?
[B 33:33]: No, not really, no. It was just kind of the same people all the time. They just used to hit me and grab me and throw me in the room. Never liked the place, never liked Newfield at all. Okay.
[A 33:47]: Okay. And what was the immediate effect from this? You know, was there still, was there any bedwetting, sleep problems?
[B 33:54]: You're bedwetting, you don't want to go to sleep and then this happens to you. You lie awake all night thinking you've got to clean the hickey and all that as well. Yeah. It's kind of one of the places I like to forget.
[A 34:10]: I just don't like that at all. Yeah, absolutely understandable. Just going to ask really quick, just like I asked with the old one, in Newfield, what were the staff like when you did wet the bed?
[B 34:23]: Yes, some, as I said, some of them used to change it, some of them didn't bother at all.
[A 34:27]: And the ones that didn't bother, was that left to you to deal with? Yes. Okay, and was that so, for example, you would have to change your own bedsheets or go for a quick bath, clean off? That's a good day yourself, yes. Okay, and some, some would help and some just wouldn't? Some of them are all right, some of them Okay, um, did the same thing happen to anyone else, or did you ever witness anything?
[B 35:02]: Yeah, a few people in here now. You've witnessed it? You've not seen it happening?
[A 35:11]: And would other people have seen it happening to you? Yes. Okay. Did you tell anyone what was happening?
[B 35:22]: Yes, I told other members of staff, but as I said to you, when you're that young, they don't believe you. Actually, they don't think I'm as bad as much as you do, you know.
[A 35:38]: And what was different about this care placement compared to the others?
[B 35:42]: Just, just, I don't know what it was. I just, I couldn't take that. I just didn't like it. I couldn't take the voice at all. I just couldn't make it. Some homes you mess in, you run, some of them you don't.
[A 35:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Balrossie. So just for your knowledge, there is only 2 placements left, so we're going to do Balrossie now and then we'll do Kibble, and then that is everything for the in-depth of each placement. Okay. Okay, would you like to take a break at all, or you're happy to continue?
[B 36:13]: No, Marie, I've got a can.
[A 36:15]: Perfect. What type of setting was Balrossie? Was it a residential school or a house?
[B 36:22]: A residential de-listed school. It was— there was what, 1, 2, 3— I think it was like 1, 2, 3, 5 houses. It's actually turned into flats now. It's in Kilmacomb, and Some of the flats are worth a fortune.
[A 36:40]: Yeah, and how long were you in there for?
[B 36:42]: I believe that looks like a year and a half, 2 years maybe.
[A 36:46]: Looks like you were there for about 1, 2— I'm trying to work out— 2 years minus 1 month, right?
[B 36:54]: About 23 months, that's it. Yes, yeah, I remember that because I ain't got no memorable losses because I remember talking to a couple of police officers and they said it was getting renovated on the flats.
[A 37:09]: Wow, okay.
[B 37:11]: And it was a lassie building, so they didn't understand that.
[A 37:14]: Yeah, so again, kind of like what with the rest, what was your daily life? So what was the actual accommodation like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 37:25]: No, it was dormitories.
[A 37:29]: Okay, and how many did you share with? 4. And were they 4 other males? Yeah. Yes, it was just boys. Yes. Okay, no problem. I just have to cheque just because sometimes it can be mixed. What about bathroom-wise?
[B 37:51]: It was just a 1-bed shared bathroom.
[A 37:53]: Yes. Was that just shared between the 4 of you in the dormitory, or was it shared between everyone? There was 30 people in there. There was 30 of you?
[B 38:02]: In the one floor, yes. It was shared between us all.
[A 38:07]: Okay. Which I didn't agree with that either. Yeah. Were there showers, baths?
[B 38:13]: There was just showers and urinals and sinks. There wasn't any baths, no.
[A 38:19]: Okay. What about any routines? Was there any specific routines that they kept you in?
[B 38:26]: No, not really. She used to tell you in the morning, \"I'm going to shower. If you want a shower, go out.\" Okay.
[A 38:32]: What about your school? Did you still do schoolwork? School was in Neeples. Okay, it was in there. It was a boys' school, yes.
[B 38:40]: You had to go to school.
[A 38:43]: Okay. What about the food? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 38:47]: Food was actually quite good, actually. She used to take me, she used to get your dinner. You used to get your breakfast in your dormitory. Okay. Then lunchtime, there was a big canteen for everybody in the full home. And then at tea time, you used to bring your dinner. And then at supper time, you bring your dinner.
[A 39:11]: Okay. And were you given, like, a choice with the food? Was there options, or was it just kind of whatever was given you had to eat?
[B 39:19]: There was kind of breakfast options when you went into the big canteen on time, you'd get up to choice options. Okay. Nighttime and suppertime, suppertime used to get, they used to, that was a good thing about suppertime in Bullrocks, you used to go shopping with the staff, they used to take the boys shopping and you could pick which you liked, if you know what I mean.
[A 39:41]: Oh right, okay. That was quite good.
[B 39:43]: Yeah. Back then it was unheard of. So we used to go shopping then, but I think that was even just take you for an hour or two or something.
[A 39:55]: So you would go shopping with the staff for the food?
[B 39:58]: Aye, for supper time, just no for dinners and lunches, nah, just late at night. Used to be yourself at about 7, 8 o'clock. They used to take you shopping, you pick what you wanted.
[A 40:10]: Nice, okay.
[B 40:12]: There was like 12 people in there, 12 or 16 around the dormitory, so you had to— they couldn't exactly get everybody a bit of activity, you know what I mean?
[A 40:22]: Yeah, understandable.
[B 40:24]: Back then, you're young, it was— when you're young boys, it was like hot dogs and buggers, chips. That was the main thing.
[A 40:32]: Yeah. Okay, and how was— what was the staff like in there? Was it half and half?
[B 40:45]: Some of them were alright, some of them weren't.
[A 40:47]: Yeah, just the same as before. Ah, yeah, it's kind of—
[B 40:51]: some of them are nice, very nice actually, some of them are, and some of them are just assholes, basically.
[A 40:58]: Yeah, fair enough.
[B 40:59]: Keep saying that about people, you know.
[A 41:03]: No, you're all right. I'd rather you were honest. What about the other children? Did you get along with them?
[B 41:10]: Eh, half and half. Some of them not. Some of them I didn't know. You've been in a dorm before. The 4Es used to stick together, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:20]: Yeah.
[B 41:21]: And then there's 4 and there's 4. You're kind of stuck between the 4Es, if you know what I mean.
[A 41:26]: Yeah, so you kind of have no real choice but to try and get along.
[B 41:29]: Well, you kept together because it was just, it was actually just, it was just a joke, to be honest with you. I didn't understand it. So it was like 40 hours in a room, we go in, well, you tried to go in, but you didn't get a choice. You were in a room and they used to just, when you're in here, that's it. Yeah. And then there was their boys in another room you used to like, and then there were boys in another room you didn't like. So they could make it that way, it's not as if they could say like you didn't get in there. Yeah, absolutely. You'd love to chew it, chew your end, if you know what I mean.
[A 42:00]: Yes, of course. Were there any rules in Balrostie that you can remember? No, no. And what about any punishments? Ah, there was punishments.
[B 42:12]: I used to get locked in your room and a few of the guys in there that I still know who they are, they used to hit you and throw you about and lock you in your room and all that, didn't they? A lot of them in that Balrossie are just going to like them. The worst thing about Balrossie was the teachers were the worst.
[A 42:29]: Really? Okay, we'll get into that in a— I'm just— because I'm going to pop that into the other box in our note sheet, which is about the abuse. So I would ask, you know, did anything happen there that you would now consider abuse to be? Sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? Which of those would you say happened in Balrossie?
[B 42:45]: Physical and neglect. Because there was a few of them that used to hit you and throw your boot and batter you and lock you in your room. And the teachers, some of the teachers that used to go, they were worse than the actual staff you dealt with when you were in your dorm. Yeah, you can actually handle a lot. Yeah, I can basically, you can actually handle your heat even though you have a really cold kidney. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You'd love to bump into them outside.
[A 43:17]: Right, yes. Can you give me one clear example, so one clear time where this physical abuse and neglect happened? Happened a few times in there. A few times? Can you give me like one really key one that you'll always remember?
[B 43:32]: I was in the shower and I was refusing to go to school to get a shower and the guy just bounced my knee straight up the tiles in the shower. And actually just battered me and then told me get a shower and just walked up.
[A 43:45]: And was that a teacher or a staff member? That was a staff member. And did you say you hit your head off the tiles?
[B 43:52]: Yes, both my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me get a shower on that. Then I was refusing to go to school and get a shower. I remember that, and I didn't actually know the guy's name. So what was his name? Derek. I can't remember his second name.
[A 44:07]: Derek. That's okay, it's good.
[B 44:09]: He bounced my head right off the tiles in the shower and told me I'd get a washing or that.
[A 44:16]: He told you you would get a lashing?
[B 44:18]: A wash. A wash.
[A 44:20]: A lash. A wash. Okay. Yes. And did he do anything else other than bounce your head off the shower tiles?
[B 44:28]: I just grabbed me before, told me that Yeah, I showed up, we were going to school.
[A 44:34]: Okay. Can I ask when this happened? Were you in the— was it in the shower room? Yes. And were you clothed?
[B 44:42]: Yeah, just my pyjama bottoms on.
[A 44:44]: Okay.
[B 44:47]: I remember it well.
[A 44:50]: It might sound silly, but for the, you know, the— not the truthfulness, but for the redress to really understand this, can you remember what, even anything about the pyjama bottoms? You know what colour they were? They were blue. Did they have any patterns?
[B 45:04]: No, just blue.
[A 45:09]: Okay, no problem. And what happened after that? You know, was the bruising— was there any marks?
[B 45:15]: Ah, there was bruising and fear and things like that. I just got a shower and get ready and went to school because I didn't know how to deal with the guy again because he was just— he was a moron, just evil.
[A 45:34]: Mm-hmm. Okay. How often would this happen? Was it, you know, was the abuse a daily thing, or, you know, every now and then a thing? Every now and then, yes. Every now and then, okay. And did it ever change or get worse?
[B 45:51]: It changed for the staff. It wasn't the same staff. It was different staff at times, aye. Okay. Okay. The only thing I liked about Bullrossie was the food. That was it.
[A 46:09]: Would you say the food was better than any other care setting?
[B 46:13]: Eh, no. Okay. Because I've not got to the last one yet. Okay, go on then.
[A 46:20]: I can't wait to hear about this full English breakfast.
[B 46:24]: That was one of them. Kemble was the best one.
[A 46:27]: Was it?
[B 46:28]: Even though people say, even though a lot of people have bad things to say about it.
[A 46:33]: Okay, so what immediate effects did you experience while in Balrossie? So, you know, again, pain, injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting? Yes, all. All of it? I couldn't wait to get out.
[B 46:44]: I just hated the place.
[A 46:48]: And what about And with, am I on Balrossie? Yes, Balrossie. What about with Balrossie with the bedwetting? Yes, I used to do that quite a lot, yes. And what would happen in this institute for that? You know, were the staff helpful? Were they not? No, you had to do it yourself because it was a dormitory.
[B 47:05]: That's what dormitories were like. You had to change all your own beds and things like that.
[A 47:11]: Was there ever any comfort from staff?
[B 47:13]: You know, \"Oh, it's okay.\" No, yeah, some of them were alright, as I said to you. Yeah, some of them are nice and some of them— you see, you probably noticed that yourself with people when you do interviews. People probably tell you some of the staff are brand new, some of them are mummin'. You'll probably notice that a lot.
[A 47:27]: Yeah, and it's always the bad ones that people remember the names of, never the good ones. Well, I say good ones, I say good ones, but you know, I remember a lot of the names of the good ones that I like. Can you give me some of the names that you remember? I can remember last names, I can't remember first names. First names is perfectly fine.
[B 47:48]: One of the good ones when I was in Bulrushy was a guy called Jimmy McWilliams. Okay, he stayed in Johnstone. He was a very nice man because he ended up coming to Kibble. Okay, another guy called Thomas Shorty, he was, he was a mate in Bulrushy. He was brand new, he came to Kibble as well. He came to He ended up in my night shift in Kibble as well.
[A 48:14]: Oh God.
[B 48:15]: You end up remembering half of them and then you go, ah, that's a second name, you kind of remember.
[A 48:21]: Yeah, what about, apart from Derek, can you remember any of the other bad staff members' names?
[B 48:27]: Yes, there was Charles Horne. He was a teacher. Yes, Charles Horne. Yep. And Thomas McCallum, he was, they were the head, they were two of the head teachers in the place. They were They were famous for hitting people in Bullrossie. I remember the two of them well. I don't know if they're still alive or not, but they were two— Thomas McCallum and Cheryl Thorne. Cheryl Thorne was the headteacher in the school. Thomas McCallum was the head lad.
[A 48:57]: And they were the ones who were quite well known for hitting people? Yes. Did they ever hit you? Yes.
[B 49:06]: They were two main man in Cabell, eh, Bullroxy. You probably hear the names quite a lot if you're dealing with people from Bullroxy.
[A 49:15]: We do see a lot of names constantly popping up, yeah.
[B 49:19]: If you're dealing with people from Bullroxy, they were two main mans.
[A 49:24]: Yeah. Did you ever tell anyone what was happening in this one?
[B 49:29]: Yes, but they're the head teachers and things like that, so you're not going to believe them, are you? Used to tell your kids, you used to tell your staff, you used to get ding dong, ding dong. Yeah, just to get knocked, because they were the head teachers. They were the teachers in Morrosey, they were the worst. Apart from that guy, I can't remember his second name. I know he's staying in Wrenthwaite next to me just now, but I can't remember. Okay.
[A 50:01]: So now let's move on to Kibble, shall we? So I have— is there anything else you want to say about Balrossie? No. No? Okay. I'm glad it's shut.
[B 50:12]: Yeah. So we just go through the other 3.
[A 50:18]: Okay, so let's move on to Kibble. So I have you being down in Kibble from 1997 to 1998? Yes. What was Kibble? Was it a residential school? Was it a house?
[B 50:35]: Boys' school, yes, residential.
[A 50:44]: Okay. And again, what was it like? Did you have your own room? Yes, I had my own room in Kibble, yes. Own room, okay. Was it a big house that you stayed in?
[B 50:56]: It is flat units, it was like dormitory units, 4 separate units of us in Kibble.
[A 51:05]: Okay, 4 separate units. What about routines, was there any particular routines there that you can really remember?
[B 51:11]: Yes, you had to be getting a minute to try to get on the showers.
[A 51:15]: Sorry, could you say that again for me? I'm just getting a bathroom. Oh, no problem.
[B 51:22]: I had a wee bit of tea in the cabaret. Cabaret was central. You had to get up in the morning, you got showered and all that and things like that.
[A 51:29]: Was there a specific time you had to wake up there?
[B 51:32]: I guess you had to go to school because the school was in the place.
[A 51:36]: So what time would you wake up if you can remember? Eh, half 7, quarter to 8 roughly. Yeah, okay.
[B 51:43]: So I had to be at school for 9. Then you had your breakfast and you had to get a shower and things like that.
[A 51:54]: Okay, did you have a school uniform? Just your own clothing. Own clothing, okay. And were you ever provided any clothing?
[B 52:02]: Yes, you used to get a bus ticket. Yeah, yeah, pretty cool.
[A 52:09]: Like a grant?
[B 52:10]: I used to get a grant in there. Yeah. I can't remember the names. I know the names, but I can't remember what they're called. They used to take you shopping and that.
[A 52:20]: Were you allowed to buy kind of with that grant whatever clothing that you wanted, or was there kind of rules surrounding it?
[B 52:26]: No, you could buy as long as it wasn't football clothes. You could buy what you wanted if you wanted.
[A 52:36]: Okay. What about the food in this one? Could be nice, yes. Yeah, were you given choice? Yes, very good choice. Okay, did you eat meals together? Yes. Where?
[B 53:00]: Okay.
[A 53:08]: Um, what about the schoolwork there? Was the school okay? Uh, yes, it was quite fine.
[B 53:14]: It was only a class and things like that. It was actually all right.
[A 53:17]: Okay. And any contact with family?
[B 53:22]: Eh, I think sometimes my mom phoned, but she used to phone and she was drunk, and I used to tell the staff, don't answer her. But no, I don't think— did anybody ever come and see me in Liverpool? I don't think they did. I never really had much contact with family, and I used to go and see my gran and that, and my other gran, when I was in Kibble. Used to go for day visits, and just used to— Kibble was just along from my house at the time. Okay. Still there, fair enough.
[A 53:49]: Yeah. What about the staff? Was it just, again, half and half?
[B 53:54]: Yes, it's half and half, but most of them are actually alright now.
[A 54:00]: Okay, what about the other children?
[B 54:03]: Kinda, you like some of them, you don't like some of them.
[A 54:11]: Okay, and was there any rules?
[B 54:19]: Eh, no, not really. There used to kinda, there was things that I asked, could you bring her in, but nah, used to, had certain rules but not many, no. And what about any punishment? No, that's kind of— actually, kibble was actually all right, even though you've probably heard a lot about it. I actually liked it.
[A 54:36]: Well, people had different experiences, you know. There's always going to be that. People might say that, um, they had the best time in Ballarat, but it wasn't for you. It was just, you know, it's just all different, isn't it?
[B 54:50]: I think that I actually wanted once Last time Paisley and Kibble was always known as a place that people didn't like to go. I actually liked it.
[A 54:58]: Yeah, so there was no punishments, but was there anything that happened that you would now as an adult consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual, physical, emotional, or neglect? No. No, okay.
[B 55:14]: I knew a lot of the staff in Kibble as well.
[A 55:16]: You didn't like any of the staff?
[B 55:18]: I said I knew a few of them, right?
[A 55:20]: Oh, you knew a few of them?
[B 55:22]: Yes, it was just kind of— Paisley's not that big, you know what I mean?
[A 55:25]: Yes, he said it was Timmy Williams and Thomas Shetty.
[B 55:30]: Right, Thomas Shetty, he was an ex, but I knew a few of the staff. When I'm in the cab, I'll meet a few of the staff, and I still speak to a few of the staff when I'm out and about, having a pint and things like that.
[A 55:39]: Yeah, okay. Do you know what? Maybe that's helpful.
[B 55:44]: I know a few of the staff in trouble with time-based limiter. I speak to them regularly because they're nice and they speak to me.
[A 55:51]: So yeah, you can't have been a bad kid then, can you?
[B 55:55]: No, actually, years ago a lot of people had bad things to say about the company. When you first get told that you can sit there, you go, ah no, not the kettle. Yeah, and you come back, you get in there and you go, ah, it's not that bad. Yeah, we'll change the order, take it off, it's a security net more than anything.
[A 56:12]: Was it a secure unit? No, it wasn't then. It's new. It's kind of mixed. Ah, okay, okay.
[B 56:18]: It used to be just boys, but now they've got lassies in it and it's a secure unit now. I mean, it's kind of one of them richest homes in Scotland, I think.
[A 56:30]: Yeah, okay, I get what you mean. Was the bedwetting still happening in Kibble?
[B 56:36]: I mean, you bet they're not much because you've got You felt safer in there, if you know what I mean.
[A 56:43]: And if you did wet the bed, what would happen?
[B 56:46]: You just tended yourself, actually. Some of the staff were alright and you said to them and all. The staff were actually alright, a lot of the staff in there.
[A 56:57]: Okay. Did you have any problems sleeping in Kibble or were you okay?
[B 57:03]: It was alright. The first couple of nights you go, ah, no, it's kind of, because you're in a strange place, but after that, no, it was alright. As I said, yes, that was probably the best place I've been.
[A 57:16]: Yeah, and I would ask, you know, did you try and tell anyone or get any help, but it doesn't sound like you needed to.
[B 57:26]: Oh, Kibble was actually pretty, pretty good advice already.
[A 57:31]: In a few words, can you describe Kibble to me, like how you felt there? I felt safe.
[B 57:36]: Yeah. And that was the first time in a long time I felt safe when I was in a kibble, because it wasn't exactly the way people made it out to be. A lot of people made kibble look bad years ago. Yeah. But it wasn't. But as you were saying, everybody's got their own experience.
[A 57:54]: Well, there is a lot of kibbles as well. They've got stuff everywhere. So the Glasgow one might have been really awful, and then the Paisley one wasn't too too bad, you know what I mean?
[B 58:03]: When I was in the home zone, they only had the pizza one. Oh really? Kibble's opened up, they've got hostels, they've got Glasgow Lounge.
[A 58:13]: Hostels and stuff, haven't they?
[B 58:16]: They'll get Shields and St. Mungo Football Club and all that as well.
[A 58:20]: Yeah.
[B 58:21]: So they never had all that when I was in there.
[A 58:24]: Aye, not too bad then. Is there anything else you'd like me to add down for Kibble? No, Kibble was okay.
[B 58:31]: I know it's a bad thing to say something in a claim for compensation, but Kibble was— there's no point lying— Kibble was actually nice. Yeah, that's fine. I actually liked it.
[A 58:42]: Just because you liked one of your five doesn't mean the rest were great. You're allowed to have— and I'm quite glad that you would have had that last one being that kind of a safer place. It must have been such a relief being in there.
[B 58:54]: It was, it was actually, I was quite happy being in there. It was actually, it made me feel safe getting there.
[A 59:01]: Well, that's all that we would want for you, to feel safe, so I'm quite glad. And I'm the one who's doing your claim and telling you it's okay to have had a safe place, okay? That was it. Yeah, so I'm just going to quickly, before I move on, is there anything else that you would like to add for grief that you might have remembered?
[B 59:19]: No. I was too young to remember anything.
[A 59:21]: What about Beech Avenue?
[B 59:24]: Eh, no.
[A 59:26]: Newfield? Nah, I hated the place. Yeah, and Balrossie? Hated that as well. Okay, so what I'm going to do now is I'm moving on to the next section, and this is about all of the care settings overall, not just one or two. Okay, it's all of them. So across all of the placements, what were the names of the main people responsible for your abuse? The names? Yeah, so I'll just go back through really quick actually, because you gave me most of the names, didn't you? So I'll just— I'll go in and I'll copy and paste them through because I don't feel like we need to re-go through them.
[B 60:07]: Ah, there was 3 main ones.
[A 60:10]: Yes, so I've got Derek, Charles and Thomas? Yes. Okay, are you happy for them to be the only names that we put on, or is there anyone else who you would like to be named? No, that's it. Okay, I also want you to be aware that none of these people will be aware that you've said their names, okay?
[B 60:28]: It's just gonna be—
[A 60:29]: Yeah, well, fair enough. Some people panic and they don't want it, but it's fine. No, you're not, absolutely. Were other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 60:45]: Yes, I witnessed abuse to a few people I was in homes with. I think a lot of people did.
[A 60:51]: I think that happens.
[B 60:52]: I think you've probably heard that a lot. You witness a lot in your own homes, especially when you're young, because even if you're that young, you don't get believed. I don't care what anybody says, you don't get believed. Yeah, I think that's how they brought out this redress because of Yeah, definitely.
[A 61:08]: And is there any children who you witnessed or witnessed you being abused whose names that you can remember at all? No. Okay, no worries at all, don't worry. Why do you believe that the local authority should have been aware of what was happening?
[B 61:25]: They should have been aware. I think a few of the homes I was in, like Barossie and Newfield, I think the local authority was aware of it. But they couldn't approve it. So I know Balrossie was actually under investigation, I know Newfield not, but I don't think they could in the grave. I don't think, you know, local authorities, like, they can't approve things they don't deal with.
[A 61:47]: Yeah. Were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished? Nope. And were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved because of these complaints?
[B 62:10]: Threatened, aye.
[A 62:11]: And what were you threatened with?
[B 62:13]: Well, the staff threatened you to leave, but they kind of threatened to be near disciplinarian.
[A 62:21]: Okay. Have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, a professional, or any authority?
[B 62:29]: Reported it to a couple of the staff, but you only believe. Never reported to police because that was a staff responsibility to report to the police back then.
[A 62:36]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements, and were the reasons ever explained to you?
[B 62:44]: No, they weren't never explained. They just kept moving me, which I didn't like because it's just— we get moved about too much. It shouldn't have happened. Obviously you're not going to have a settled life if you keep moving. Yeah.
[A 63:08]: Did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved?
[B 63:14]: That'll be quite a few times, yes.
[A 63:20]: And what would happen when you ran away?
[B 63:23]: I ran away and tried to run away from Bellrossie and ended up, me and 5 other boys running away from Bellrossie in my pyjamas and actually got to Kirkmaccormick, Port Glasgow and got on a train and actually came to Belkisley, Port Glasgow, in the train in my pyjamas.
[A 63:40]: So you ran away from Bellrossie in your pyjamas? Yes, me and 5 other boys. Hopped on a train? Yes, to Glasgow.
[B 63:51]: That'll be in the police report, because it was— everybody used to talk— there was 5 of us, me and 5 others. We left Kilmacon, Kilmacon, Port Glasgow's about 68 miles to Kilmacon, and they end up leaving Bullrosey because they didn't like it and end up getting on a train at Port Glasgow, Port Glasgow to Ferguson, and went to my auntie's in Ferguson.
[A 64:16]: Were the police the ones that caught you and returned you?
[B 64:19]: Yeah, police picked us up and took us back to Bullrosey, yes. There should have been a police report.
[A 64:25]: There probably is. I'll have to double-check that one.
[B 64:27]: It's got to be because they were in my pyjamas and hoosecoat.
[A 64:32]: Why did you run away?
[B 64:33]: Just didn't like the place. Just didn't like it. We ended up leaving it and then we got returned to the place at about 5 in the morning or something like that.
[A 64:43]: And what happened when you were returned?
[B 64:45]: No, I just totally go to my bed and then they get me to get up 2 hours later for school.
[A 64:50]: Right, okay.
[B 64:51]: I remember that, it was just one of the things that you think about it now, you say that was quite funny, that.
[A 64:59]: I shouldn't laugh, but I think it's the thought of 5 kids in their pyjamas getting on a train, nobody asking any questions.
[B 65:08]: No, they just let us on the train, that's it.
[A 65:10]: I think that's the part that got me a little bit because I think the first thing I'd do is, why are you in your dramas?
[B 65:17]: Well, that main ticket wasn't written to Morris. The train, the train get wrecked, the cart they were in, and they got off at St James's next to Ferguson and walked all the way to Mantis' house, and then Mantis stuck, Mantis grasped at us and pulled the poles, and we got picked up. There's got to be enough police report because they picked up my pyjamas, no?
[A 65:43]: There's got to be there somewhere. Yeah, there should be. What age did you leave the care system?
[B 65:49]: 16 and a half, 17, roughly.
[A 65:54]: Okay, and what were your circumstances after? So where did you go once you were released from care?
[B 66:00]: I went to my gran's for 2 months and then I didn't like that and I got my own house. So I've stayed myself since I was— before I was 17. I've maintained since then. No support after I left.
[A 66:15]: There was no support?
[B 66:16]: No, I think you should have been supported when you left here. I would have to agree, especially when you're— I was about 16 or so. Yeah. And you think there'd be support there for you. Nah, there wasn't any support, just basically when you're that age, get the fuck and just touch you. No, there's a lot of support now in your wee care.
[A 66:38]: Yeah, so I'm now going to move on to the next section, which is all about the impact on your whole experience. So it is going to be, you know, how the combined experience has affected you. So how did the experience affect you at the time in a way of such as your safety, your trust, your confidence, your sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or your ability to speak up?
[B 67:04]: That's kind of, that's them all. It sticks really in your brain. It's kind of mentally, you know, it's always in your brain. You just sit and think about it. That's why I drink as much, because you just can't even no think about it when you were young. Yeah, it's kind of just one of the things you wish you could forget, but you can't.
[A 67:34]: Yeah, I've got that.
[B 67:36]: It's mainly mentally now, because you're older. It just sticks with you constantly.
[A 67:42]: Yeah, so that is actually the next question. So how has it affected your mental health? Things such as anxiety, depression, trauma symptoms, panic, flashbacks, nightmares, self-harm, or suicidal thoughts?
[B 67:55]: Yes, flashbacks and nightmares and things like. Yes, that's kind of— that's funny, the main things that people don't understand about it. That's kind of— you do get flashbacks, you get memories, you get mental health problems, things like. It sticks to you constantly.
[A 68:13]: Have you got any mental health problems, Patrick? No, none. Non-diagnosed? Just alcohol. Just alcohol.
[B 68:20]: Okay, that came back. That's up in court.
[A 68:26]: And would you classify yourself as alcohol dependent or an alcoholic? Alcohol dependent. Alcohol dependent. Okay, I get medication after the doctor for it. Okay, no problem.
[B 68:37]: For my stomach, I've damaged my stomach leaning into the drink.
[A 68:42]: Was there ever any substance abuse?
[B 68:45]: No, I've never took drugs. Okay, never even thought of it. I don't even think I've ever smoked a joint, to be honest with you.
[A 68:55]: Fair enough, that's the best way, isn't it?
[B 68:58]: I know, that's kind of— yeah, when I stayed in Birkdale Park, it was kind of a bad area back in the '90s for drugs and hanging about, but I never even took an eckie in my life.
[A 69:13]: Um, what about any self-harm or suicidal thoughts?
[B 69:18]: I've had suicidal thoughts, aye, but I've never self-harmed, no. Okay.
[A 69:26]: Okay. Do you take any medication for any kind of sleep problems? I've got—
[B 69:33]: I take sleeping tablets, but that's far. Causing my sciatica in my back and my leg. I get sleepless nights a lot.
[A 69:40]: Okay. How has your experience in care affected any relationships?
[B 69:48]: I don't really have relationships, no. I've not got much friends either because I don't really trust much. I'm kind of a loner, and that's kind of— that affected me being in homes because you don't know who to trust.
[A 70:02]: Yeah.
[B 70:04]: I think I've got one close pal and that's about it.
[A 70:08]: And at my age, at 44, you think you're for funnels. Yeah. What about intimacy? Has it ever affected— has your experience ever affected your ability to be intimate with someone?
[B 70:18]: Not kind of. I've not really been intimate with many people, to be honest with you, kind of. Okay. I've had a couple of relationships, but I don't really tell them nothing, if you know what I mean. I think that you keep it all to yourself. It does affect you because some of the women you go out with you don't really tell us nothing, you don't say nothing. So sometimes you're better off just keeping things to yourself.
[A 70:40]: Yeah.
[B 70:42]: You don't tell anybody about your physical abuse and all that, I've never really done it, no.
[A 70:48]: Yeah. What about your— obviously you said that you can't really trust people. Would you say that trust is one of the biggest things it has affected? Yes. Yeah. And what about any isolation? Do you ever find yourself isolating yourself? Yes, I kind of—
[B 71:04]: I don't really do much. I'm kind of a hussy person. I'm kind of— I'm not a socializer. Okay. I'd rather sit in the house with 10 cans and don't speak to people.
[A 71:18]: And that's part of the reason. Yeah. And what about your confidence?
[B 71:25]: Confidence is low at times. It's not great, my confidence, but as you know, your confidence, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
[A 71:34]: Yeah, it can always flip, can't it?
[B 71:37]: It's up and down.
[A 71:37]: Aye. Yeah, okay. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the effect it's had on relationships, any friendships, anything like that? It's just isolation, basically.
[B 71:49]: Cause it is. It's just a joke. Actually, I know it's a bad thing to say, I think care homes should be shut. Well, back in the day. I don't know what they're like now, right enough, but I've heard a lot of good things about care homes these days.
[A 72:05]: Well, you kind of question why now. Aye. How has your overall experience affected your education, your work, your opportunities, finances, housing, or day-to-day stability?
[B 72:20]: It's kinda affected them all because I kinda don't work and things like that. You don't work? I'm on disability, aye. Okay. It affects your confidence actually. It's kinda sticks in your head and I've tried working a couple of times and then things just come into your head and you end up going, \"Ah, I can't do bother with this, I just wind me head.\" Sometimes you depress yourself there thinking about it.
[A 72:44]: Yeah. And then there are times you're all right, if you know what I mean. It's kind of— No, I understand.
[B 72:51]: I'd love company, to be honest with you. I've had a couple of relationships and sometimes the woman go out and you don't look happy, and then at times you look happy. It's just— I think it's— I don't know what it is, it's just 50/50. I think it just comes and goes.
[A 73:03]: Yeah, yeah. It's always there, it's not going away, I don't think. Mr Patrick, is there anything that triggers you? Any places, smells, authority figures, institutions, or situations that you would avoid because it triggers you?
[B 73:18]: Well, I don't really get much, so I think I don't really know that answer to that. I can't really answer that one.
[A 73:22]: Yeah, no, that's okay, you don't have to.
[B 73:25]: I don't like being in private places like councils and institutions and things like that. I don't like that. I don't even like going to my doctor's because there's a lot of people about. These are my doctor's phones, mate, because I think I told them I don't like coming to surgeries.
[A 73:44]: So would you say that you avoid contact? I avoid contact with people, yes.
[B 73:51]: I think that's in my heart, mate.
[A 73:54]: And do you avoid contact with people because of what you went through or because of the aftermath? Could have went away through and after myself.
[B 74:01]: Yeah, I think that even my pal says to me, you need to start getting out now. And you don't, you don't tell people anything that happens to you. So yeah, I'm quite happy you've put them up. That's all you do.
[A 74:14]: Okay, what impact has this experience had on your life overall?
[B 74:21]: I've not got a life, basically. To be honest with you, I've not really got a life. My life is basically a loner, been in the house myself and kind of keep myself to myself.
[A 74:34]: Yeah.
[B 74:35]: Everybody else has got a life, they go out and socialise, things like that, but you don't want me. I don't know what it is, I don't know. I was kind of hoping it would go away, but no, it's not.
[A 74:46]: What if, so how do you, like, what do you think would have been different about your life had you not have been in care?
[B 74:54]: I don't know, I think maybe if I was in care, I would have had a career or had a family or had a normal life, but no, I've not got any of that. That might match the care settings I'm in. Yeah. I've not got a family, I've not got a career, I've not got anything like that. I think if I was in care, this You sit and think to yourself, I might have had a life. No, these days, no, you've not got a life. Yeah.
[A 75:27]: Have you ever received any counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or professional support? No. Okay.
[B 75:37]: As I said, you don't tell people, you keep it to yourself. It's another thing that a lot of people don't get out of the chain up. Sorry, you talk to your lawyer, I think. Yeah, they've got to keep themselves private and confidential.
[A 75:50]: Yeah, there's nothing— there's no judgement about it. People, you tell who you want to tell, and if you don't want to tell anyone, you don't need to. Nobody's— there's no force in you to tell anyone, do you know what I mean?
[B 76:01]: You don't need to. I know it's your business. I don't tell anybody anything, and that's why I'd love to have been able to speak to people now, but now you can Well, I appreciate your bravery speaking to me about it.
[A 76:16]: It helps and it means a lot that you've trusted me with it. Have you ever been diagnosed with any relevant health conditions or taken any medication? I take medication just now. Yeah, what medication is that?
[B 76:32]: Amitriptyline.
[A 76:36]: And is that your sleeping tablets? No, that's sleeping tablets to help your mouth. Okay. Any other medications, or is it just the amitriptyline and the sleeping tablets?
[B 76:47]: Quite a few. Some of Aston.
[A 76:54]: Okay.
[B 76:55]: And then there's Cocodamol.
[A 76:59]: Yeah. I used to take that.
[B 77:07]: And my Loxican.
[A 77:14]: Okay, I'll just leave them in there for now. I'm sure we'll have on your GP records all of your medicines. Yeah. Are you receiving support now? No. No. Okay. Is there any sibling, relative, friend, partner, or professional who you would like to provide a supporting statement for your claim? No, I don't.
[B 77:41]: I've not told anybody.
[A 77:42]: I've not said to anybody about it. Yeah, okay.
[B 77:45]: I spoke to the advice, they kinda said if you've not spoke to anybody, first thing I'll ask is kinda especially your boss.
[A 77:54]: Yeah, so I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are close to the end. So why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling your storey to the Scottish Government about what you went through?
[B 78:08]: I'd like them to deal with what happened back in the past and actually accept responsibility for no doing enough to help young people in care. Never really done nothing to help people in care homes back in the day. I think there should have been something there, but they didn't do that here at the care homes in Baroda, did they?
[A 78:34]: Yeah. And what would you like to come from, like, telling your storey? Like, where— what do you want people to know from telling your storey?
[B 78:43]: I want them to know what happened back in the day, and I don't want people just to ignore what happened back in the day, because a lot of people just ignore it. Go, 'It happened back in the day, but it's the past.' It's not the past. It's not the past for people that suffered it.
[A 78:55]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 78:56]: It's actually— it's in the future. It's still in their heads, and it's still in— I know a few people in homes that have been homes that committed suicide through all this and all that. Yeah, that's actually— I don't understand why people say, 'Oh, that was years ago, just ignore it,' and all that. It's just— it's not something you can ignore. Yeah. It's there on some people's memories, that's what it is. Yeah.
[A 79:26]: And what would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what you went through mean to you?
[B 79:32]: It'd mean a lot if you get an apology off them and admitted that the care homes back in the day, when they should have been, it shouldn't have been happening. There should have been rules, there should have been people checking up in care homes they should have been hanged on the gallows back in the day.
[A 79:47]: I'm glad it should have happened back in the day. Yeah, see, they should have been monitored more closely.
[B 79:53]: Ah, because it's just— you want the Scottish government to take responsibility, but I think when I'm bringing out the red vest map, they're taking some kind of responsibility, but they're not taking it all. They're just saying, we'll give you compensation, that's it. Yeah, and it's and we'll get an apology. I don't think that's enough. I actually think they should have done something back then. It's just politicians and governments, they just, they don't care about the public. They never have.
[A 80:25]: Yeah. Is there anything else that you would like Redress Scotland to understand about what happened or the harm that you lived with?
[B 80:43]: I'd like them to understand what happened, completely. I hope it doesn't happen to other people. It's running behind me, it's mentally invasive, it just stays with you, it just doesn't go away. I think that's why they brought Redress up, because the Scottish government knew it was wrong and they brought that up. I brought that to you people for conversation. I don't think conversation's enough.
[A 81:05]: No, it's nowhere near justice.
[B 81:08]: I think you've got to obey the conversation. I mean, that's just— it might make your life a wee bit happier and make you better on that, but it's not going to bring back your youth and your young, maybe your future. Not your future, especially if you're autistic, you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't think they understand that. I think they're just saying we'll give you compensation, that's it. We'll give you an apology, that's you. That's it, baby. Is that you? I don't think that's enough, man. No, I think it should have been dealt with years ago. I think it was 2000, was it 2017? Yeah, they did this scheme. That should have been years before that. Absolutely. And dealt with before that.
[A 81:54]: Is there anything important that we haven't covered today?
[B 81:57]: No, I think we've covered quite a lot.
[A 81:59]: Yeah, is there any—
[B 82:01]: I've spoken much with you.
[A 82:04]: Well, do you know what, I'm glad that you were able to do so with me. It's just, it's me. I just make people feel really comfortable. Is there any wording that you would like to have handled carefully? No. No? Okay. How are you feeling?
[B 82:18]: I could see a lot of phone numbers, but I just couldn't.
[A 82:21]: You should not. Tell them you've changed your mind.
[B 82:25]: I'm not really a hater. I don't like swearing much.
[A 82:29]: I'm not a big swearer. No, only when necessary, eh? I know, Celtic's playing tonight. You've just signed that Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, haven't you?
[B 82:42]: He's been there for the last year. He's been there over a year now.
[A 82:45]: I thought it was only a couple of months. That's how far behind I am.
[B 82:49]: He signed last— when did he sign? I don't know, just now? August? Oh, was it? Oh God. He signed in January. Ah. A year's deal. A year's deal. They just give him a new year's contract.
[A 83:04]: Was it? Yeah, you won the last cup, didn't you?
[B 83:08]: I won the last one, won the weekend off.
[A 83:10]: You're doing pretty well for the start of this season. Not so much. That's a good point. No, I like the football. I try and keep up with a bit of it.
[B 83:23]: My favourite player years ago when I was young was Alan Shearer.
[A 83:26]: I liked him. I'm from Newcastle.
[B 83:29]: I loved Shearer. Shearer was brilliant. He played with Chris Sutton at Blackburn. He was— Yeah, he did. Chris Sutton played for Celtic, sure.
[A 83:38]: Yeah, Shearer was good. I liked them, Shola Amiobi. He was good. He was good, yeah.
[B 83:46]: One of the best players with Newcastle I've seen ever was Faustino Asprilla. Yes, yeah. Him and Genoa were brilliant.
[A 83:55]: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they were— we have had some good teams, but this, this, I think this season is going to be a struggle.
[B 84:01]: Well, they'll sell most of their best players, aren't they?
[A 84:05]: I know, that's why I am a bit gutted. I'm not clutching on straws to this season, I'll tell you that.
[B 84:11]: Sold Tonali, sold Guevara, sold Isaac last year, sold Gobert to Barcelona. I know, sold about 300+ million pounds worth of players.
[A 84:21]: Yeah, and haven't even bought anyone proper yet. I know. Bought someone actually, bought someone from Benfica. Ah, right back? Yeah. The guys that own Newcastle are richer than Man City. Can't spend it though, can we? I know. It's all this financial fair play, but it's not fair, is it?
[B 84:40]: Well, if we just sell a few of our players, I think we'd be able to spend that.
[A 84:44]: Oh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you? But apparently not. So we'll see how this season goes. It might be that I ring you in a few months to tell you Redress's decision and we're relegated already. Oh, well. Patrick, how are you feeling after discussing all of this?
[B 85:00]: Aye, aye, I think it'll go.
[A 85:04]: Yeah, and do you feel safe to be ending the call with me? Yes, aye, it's better. Couldn't wait to speak to you. I'm glad. Is there someone you can contact for support if you need any support?
[B 85:18]: I've got a good pal, he's back in the East Midlands, he comes in quite a lot.
[A 85:22]: Oh, that's good, I'm glad. So I'm now going to quickly explain the next steps to you just so that you have a rough idea. So after this call, I'm going to go away and I'm going to neaten up because I've taken it down as notes. I'm going to write it into a full statement. Once that's done, it'll be emailed over to you, so you'll get your statement and you'll get a payment authority letter, and it's just so you can read through it, make sure you're happy with it. You'll sign the statement and the payment authority letter, and that'll get sent back to us. We'll then send it off to Redress, and you'll have to do an identification verification So it's literally a 20-second WhatsApp video call where our head solicitor and my manager joins the call with you, and you'll hold your ID up to your face and they'll say yep, and then it's done. Okay, it's really, really quick, it's in like 20 seconds and then it's done. Okay, we don't really hang about with it. No problem. Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained? Yes. Perfect. Well, that is your witness statement complete, Patrick. So I will, like I said, go away, write this up, and I will contact you when it is ready for you to read through and sign, okay? That's brilliant, thanks, you're welcome. Alright, thank you very much for your time and thank you for trusting me to open up to me, okay? No problem, enjoy your day. You enjoy the rest of your day too, Patrick. I'll speak to you soon. Thank you, bye-bye. 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#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#40 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#42 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 14:05:07] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4406 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:05:07] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4406 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:05:07] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4406. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:05:07] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4406 — too short to classify (duration=9s, words=23).  
[2026-08-20 14:05:09] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4407 → AssemblyAI 591cdd49-c197-4f52-a062-b5e3ff0ff5ff  
[2026-08-20 14:06:10] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4407 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:06:10] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4407 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:06:11] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4407. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:06:12] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4407  
[2026-08-20 14:06:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:06:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:07:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 14:07:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 14:08:21] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19854 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 14:08:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 14:09:14] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAaaf3112c4a21a24e0466d0e9134df16d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6357"} 
[2026-08-20 14:09:14] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6357,"CallSid":"CAaaf3112c4a21a24e0466d0e9134df16d","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAaaf3112c4a21a24e0466d0e9134df16d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6357"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:09:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:09:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 14:09:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:09:45] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"nV35RNXuEM73r8ORWNFnwffcT+s=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 14:09:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:09:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:11:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:11:30] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA06e840d412ad21ce696240762de70cf4","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6358"} 
[2026-08-20 14:11:30] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6358,"CallSid":"CA06e840d412ad21ce696240762de70cf4","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA06e840d412ad21ce696240762de70cf4","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6358"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:12:27] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA6b9c6cbd03426b77925a6677e9654ca3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6359"} 
[2026-08-20 14:12:27] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6359,"CallSid":"CA6b9c6cbd03426b77925a6677e9654ca3","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA6b9c6cbd03426b77925a6677e9654ca3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6359"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:12:29] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4408 → AssemblyAI 1b58f021-e3a4-4a34-aadf-188cbe69ff0b  
[2026-08-20 14:13:09] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4409 → AssemblyAI ee76d7c2-a3be-4c8d-b919-c36ee60efba3  
[2026-08-20 14:13:30] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4408 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:13:30] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4408 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:13:30] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4408. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:13:30] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4408 — too short to classify (duration=28s, words=76).  
[2026-08-20 14:14:09] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4409 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:14:09] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4409 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:14:10] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4409. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:14:12] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4409  
[2026-08-20 14:14:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 14:14:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 14:14:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 14:14:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 14:14:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 14:14:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 14:14:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 14:15:09] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19826 (client 1531, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 14:15:18] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19823 (client 1531, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 14:15:27] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19809 (client 1562, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 14:15:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:15:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 14:15:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:16:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 14:16:48] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAbee861fc312801955eca18eb56ab3c1e","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6360"} 
[2026-08-20 14:16:48] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6360,"CallSid":"CAbee861fc312801955eca18eb56ab3c1e","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAbee861fc312801955eca18eb56ab3c1e","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6360"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:17:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 14:17:45] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4410 → AssemblyAI 1ce96b18-5d73-49af-b318-a133ff17ebc7  
[2026-08-20 14:17:46] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA96600802254588efdad51407581c88fe","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6361"} 
[2026-08-20 14:17:46] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6361,"CallSid":"CA96600802254588efdad51407581c88fe","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA96600802254588efdad51407581c88fe","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6361"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:17:54] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA872fb996da658136a234ad092fa59035","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6362"} 
[2026-08-20 14:17:54] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6362,"CallSid":"CA872fb996da658136a234ad092fa59035","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA872fb996da658136a234ad092fa59035","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6362"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:18:42] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4411 → AssemblyAI b6a4d223-3700-41f1-9206-02cb0ce46488  
[2026-08-20 14:18:42] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4412 → AssemblyAI fc784a8a-fd59-48db-b585-a400be73de68  
[2026-08-20 14:18:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 14:18:46] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4410 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:18:46] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4410 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:18:46] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4410. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:18:46] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4410 — too short to classify (duration=28s, words=83).  
[2026-08-20 14:19:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 14:19:43] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4411 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:19:43] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4411 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:19:44] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4412 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:19:44] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4412 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:19:44] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4411. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:19:44] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4411 — too short to classify (duration=29s, words=72).  
[2026-08-20 14:19:44] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4412. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:19:45] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4412  
[2026-08-20 14:20:09] production.ERROR: Failed to update client 1360: SQLSTATE[23000]: Integrity constraint violation: 1062 Duplicate entry '+447111111111' for key 'clients.clients_phone_number_unique' (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `clients` set `phone_number` = +447111111111, `clients`.`updated_at` = 2026-08-20 14:20:09 where `id` = 1360)  
[2026-08-20 14:20:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:20:51] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-bd250edb-3a5e-4d4d-828e-8d24380ddabd.pdf  
[2026-08-20 14:20:54] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-d4102587-dc90-440a-9da9-400587336c10.pdf  
[2026-08-20 14:20:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 14:20:57] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-7bc93154-3963-4a96-b7bc-e4f6f390dafa.pdf  
[2026-08-20 14:20:59] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA152f5d7402313c31d65e41d2a2f6d20b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6363"} 
[2026-08-20 14:20:59] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6363,"CallSid":"CA152f5d7402313c31d65e41d2a2f6d20b","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA152f5d7402313c31d65e41d2a2f6d20b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6363"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:21:00] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-9febe40d-1b17-48b5-a6f7-bb62af897d90.pdf  
[2026-08-20 14:21:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:21:42] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19873 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 14:21:43] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19873 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='609484'.  
[2026-08-20 14:21:57] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19873 — AI matcher dsar_id=3777, confidence=medium.  
[2026-08-20 14:21:57] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19873 linked to DSAR 3777.  
[2026-08-20 14:21:57] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference '609484' for DSAR 3777.  
[2026-08-20 14:21:59] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19873 response_type=portal_response.  
[2026-08-20 14:21:59] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19873 → triage_queue=portal_response (response_type=portal_response, dsar_id=3777).  
[2026-08-20 14:22:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:22:07] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4413 → AssemblyAI e29f7311-7e4b-4b49-a5d2-716b18490338  
[2026-08-20 14:22:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:22:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 14:23:08] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4413 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:23:08] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4413 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:23:08] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4413. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:23:10] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4413  
[2026-08-20 14:23:16] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":"Nairn","ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA643291d4c1e65f6a204a426793fb42ae","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E2NDMyOTFkNGMxZTY1ZjZhMjA0YTQyNjc5M2ZiNDJhZSIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQxNjY3NDUyMDk2IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIzMjE5NSJ9.ebJIDsjdIbQ1maWO5C0Y2AXNf5Tl5Ml8ocKJ5wxtRgrHouGPWaOVqFNTaipJLNAWQx25Ov-U8CJU8i7gvIkleA%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+441667452096","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+441667452096","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":"Nairn"} 
[2026-08-20 14:23:26] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 14:23:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 14:23:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 14:23:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 14:23:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 14:23:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 14:23:42] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 14:23:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 14:23:44] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA1d0cd7677f2de1cc17de2135e52a544a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6365"} 
[2026-08-20 14:23:44] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6365,"CallSid":"CA1d0cd7677f2de1cc17de2135e52a544a","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA1d0cd7677f2de1cc17de2135e52a544a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6365"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:24:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 14:24:37] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4414 → AssemblyAI 91dc3eb6-56fb-4e5d-ae8a-2bc8b2e86400  
[2026-08-20 14:24:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:25:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:25:09] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-60af7093-3881-4b90-a4c1-5b5cbc7069fa.pdf  
[2026-08-20 14:25:12] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-d5b0446e-a176-45ed-8867-9bc068095851.pdf  
[2026-08-20 14:25:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:25:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:25:38] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA643291d4c1e65f6a204a426793fb42ae","DialCallSid":"CAbcf85147c83b5e024a53ba23eb1fa3b9","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"137"} 
[2026-08-20 14:25:38] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4414 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:25:38] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4414 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:25:39] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4414. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:25:39] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4414 — too short to classify (duration=26s, words=74).  
[2026-08-20 14:25:49] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4415 → AssemblyAI a28c9712-bc48-40f7-8a83-3113fe8829d0  
[2026-08-20 14:25:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:25:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 14:25:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:04] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19882 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 14:26:04] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19882 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260820-D013D9' → DSAR 4339.  
[2026-08-20 14:26:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:06] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19882 response_type=acknowledgement.  
[2026-08-20 14:26:06] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19882 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=4339).  
[2026-08-20 14:26:06] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19882 auto-set DSAR 4339 status → acknowledged (response_type=acknowledgement).  
[2026-08-20 14:26:09] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:16] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA8bbfb4cdb3cada6a4f826b56e970e200","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6366"} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:16] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6366,"CallSid":"CA8bbfb4cdb3cada6a4f826b56e970e200","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA8bbfb4cdb3cada6a4f826b56e970e200","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6366"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:20] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"TJpv93ouyKWUTREdTvg5diPbxNI=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:27] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CAe67ac5819440f50af9564c1e695cd9bb","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6367"} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:27] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6367,"CallSid":"CAe67ac5819440f50af9564c1e695cd9bb","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CAe67ac5819440f50af9564c1e695cd9bb","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6367"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:31] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"HKeaRC7z5fzyCIWFjtYIFddMQN4=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:44] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA4d777f3b9236566b295dd73da4e1009f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6368"} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:44] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6368,"CallSid":"CA4d777f3b9236566b295dd73da4e1009f","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA4d777f3b9236566b295dd73da4e1009f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6368"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:46] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAa5255f0c775ad677a3cf3389cc68d527","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6369"} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:46] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6369,"CallSid":"CAa5255f0c775ad677a3cf3389cc68d527","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAa5255f0c775ad677a3cf3389cc68d527","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6369"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:50] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4415 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:26:50] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4415 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:26:50] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4415. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:50] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 4415.  
[2026-08-20 14:26:51] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"s9mRCb8J+pTq7fOr9RUqfyLtatU=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 14:26:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 14:27:02] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4416 → AssemblyAI b7eb38e8-594b-43b2-8a39-d5e504eb4b0a  
[2026-08-20 14:27:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 14:27:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 14:28:02] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4416 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:28:02] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4416 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:28:03] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4416. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:28:03] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4416 — too short to classify (duration=5s, words=3).  
[2026-08-20 14:28:08] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":"Campbeltown","ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA57436b0b6b8892e55195daad1d7256b4","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E1NzQzNmIwYjZiODg5MmU1NTE5NWRhYWQxZDcyNTZiNCIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQxNTg2NTUxODA2IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIzMjQ4NyJ9.3eU-je1hcgHdZJwPUXJqf_gIwxlLXUyq0oUl2wDVx7teTZ390klXQgyr6IZJ1ltP4elfyKXOwkSJqSRpSYrfUA%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+441586551806","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+441586551806","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":"Campbeltown"} 
[2026-08-20 14:28:49] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA57436b0b6b8892e55195daad1d7256b4","DialCallSid":"CAe6ccfc2f6212d2fea57e150852e8a10f","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"24"} 
[2026-08-20 14:28:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:28:56] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4417 → AssemblyAI 5c35cc6a-de74-4ded-b610-e1abf76ad067  
[2026-08-20 14:29:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 14:29:13] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA5e30e91d257fe33cccfcd4c7476f3748","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6371"} 
[2026-08-20 14:29:13] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6371,"CallSid":"CA5e30e91d257fe33cccfcd4c7476f3748","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA5e30e91d257fe33cccfcd4c7476f3748","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6371"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:29:16] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA1d05ab4eef99ce88cdaf956b4c14f0da","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6372"} 
[2026-08-20 14:29:16] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6372,"CallSid":"CA1d05ab4eef99ce88cdaf956b4c14f0da","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA1d05ab4eef99ce88cdaf956b4c14f0da","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6372"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:29:21] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"boipGqegxIR8s5nPzcMxNcMXYBk=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 14:29:27] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA985fe02ae6f638edda8964fa4fd0ac26","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6373"} 
[2026-08-20 14:29:27] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6373,"CallSid":"CA985fe02ae6f638edda8964fa4fd0ac26","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA985fe02ae6f638edda8964fa4fd0ac26","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6373"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:29:31] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"d4HK/6j5mAeNFyqCZHegL+efzmo=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 14:29:57] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4417 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:29:57] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4417 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:29:57] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4417. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:29:58] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4417  
[2026-08-20 14:31:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 14:31:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 14:32:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:32:31] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19887 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 14:32:35] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA5f81e0e1421664fe474b3e7b8789b63c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6374"} 
[2026-08-20 14:32:35] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6374,"CallSid":"CA5f81e0e1421664fe474b3e7b8789b63c","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA5f81e0e1421664fe474b3e7b8789b63c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6374"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:32:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 14:32:57] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":"Coatbridge","ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA44b22829ea2f90db6540fc184cc45f62","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E0NGIyMjgyOWVhMmY5MGRiNjU0MGZjMTg0Y2M0NWY2MiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQxMjM2NjA0NDgyIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIzMjc3NiJ9.I4E9HWC6YX2CklHR_y58wm9PVZ019P1c2cecgAN-LJaMNH2mVhcE4GmUpb2ZPXbb3QW9wENM118H-yAZ29aKJA%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+441236604482","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+441236604482","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":"Coatbridge"} 
[2026-08-20 14:33:03] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA5f65fbf1efdb9da23619f6dfc5f0c8db","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6376"} 
[2026-08-20 14:33:03] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6376,"CallSid":"CA5f65fbf1efdb9da23619f6dfc5f0c8db","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA5f65fbf1efdb9da23619f6dfc5f0c8db","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6376"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:33:54] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4418 → AssemblyAI c0671af8-bbb5-4f26-82ea-2dddd186b357  
[2026-08-20 14:34:07] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4419 → AssemblyAI 40dd3e7b-c5bf-4ad8-a1c4-b547251e1540  
[2026-08-20 14:34:22] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAd46f8af67734a1ed0fe9bc738e086e1a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6377"} 
[2026-08-20 14:34:22] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6377,"CallSid":"CAd46f8af67734a1ed0fe9bc738e086e1a","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAd46f8af67734a1ed0fe9bc738e086e1a","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6377"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:34:58] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4418 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:34:58] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4418 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:34:58] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4418. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:34:59] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4418  
[2026-08-20 14:35:12] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4419 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:35:12] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4419 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:35:12] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4419. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:35:12] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4419 — too short to classify (duration=28s, words=74).  
[2026-08-20 14:35:46] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA44b22829ea2f90db6540fc184cc45f62","DialCallSid":"CA678312ee79aa856bfb68393cc9538b96","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"164"} 
[2026-08-20 14:35:53] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA7ec3c845b44f266506c4a6b03b65a0b8","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6378"} 
[2026-08-20 14:35:53] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6378,"CallSid":"CA7ec3c845b44f266506c4a6b03b65a0b8","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA7ec3c845b44f266506c4a6b03b65a0b8","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6378"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:36:00] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4420 → AssemblyAI d8986301-6eee-4ab8-b604-18144c55a06e  
[2026-08-20 14:36:55] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4421 → AssemblyAI 7d3bc14e-9842-4686-a310-3fcd872eb750  
[2026-08-20 14:37:12] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4420 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:37:12] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4420 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:37:13] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4420. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:37:13] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 4420.  
[2026-08-20 14:37:27] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA29270138ac65b032969567309fc7c2f3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6379"} 
[2026-08-20 14:37:27] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6379,"CallSid":"CA29270138ac65b032969567309fc7c2f3","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA29270138ac65b032969567309fc7c2f3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6379"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:37:28] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_22","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_22","CallSid":"CA11781aaa64b1414186b3ffb29fc93d21","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6380"} 
[2026-08-20 14:37:28] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6380,"CallSid":"CA11781aaa64b1414186b3ffb29fc93d21","From":"client:agent_production_22","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_22","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_22","CallSid":"CA11781aaa64b1414186b3ffb29fc93d21","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6380"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:37:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 14:38:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:38:05] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4421 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:38:05] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4421 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:38:05] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4421. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:38:05] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4421 — too short to classify (duration=18s, words=48).  
[2026-08-20 14:38:23] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4422 → AssemblyAI 87cdce3c-a5d5-4cee-8f60-88983298b8e5  
[2026-08-20 14:39:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 14:39:37] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4422 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:39:37] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4422 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:39:37] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4422. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:39:37] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4422 — too short to classify (duration=27s, words=74).  
[2026-08-20 14:39:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 14:40:23] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAe7efdb77c004fd5a267a9790d3780df3","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FlN2VmZGI3N2MwMDRmZDVhMjY3YTk3OTBkMzc4MGRmMyIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NTA4NDQ3MTc4IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIzMzIyMyJ9.PEsaZ0c91QNRcnTDUBe9euHqcD-rc4-loGBffuyQpJjwRyp9gMIJ1G1mNhjIL8Qr0plMinxha5c3Ufny3dLe0g%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447508447178","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447508447178","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 14:40:49] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAe7efdb77c004fd5a267a9790d3780df3","DialCallSid":"CA468748d6e29bdd92d78f92f535be1cd3","DialCallStatus":"no-answer","DialCallDuration":null} 
[2026-08-20 14:41:33] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19898 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 14:41:33] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19898 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260820-D013D9' → DSAR 4339.  
[2026-08-20 14:41:36] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19898 response_type=no_record.  
[2026-08-20 14:41:36] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19898 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=no_record, dsar_id=4339).  
[2026-08-20 14:41:36] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19898 auto-set DSAR 4339 status → no records (response_type=no_record).  
[2026-08-20 14:41:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 14:41:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 14:42:03] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA7615c59eef0153adf4ddac796fa555e1","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6382"} 
[2026-08-20 14:42:03] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6382,"CallSid":"CA7615c59eef0153adf4ddac796fa555e1","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA7615c59eef0153adf4ddac796fa555e1","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6382"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:42:46] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11798 (image001.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 14:42:46] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11799 (image002.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 14:42:46] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11800 (20260820 - McLaughlin, Thomas - Acknowledgement letter.docx).  
[2026-08-20 14:42:48] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19899 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 14:42:49] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19899 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='APP429018'.  
[2026-08-20 14:43:03] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4423 → AssemblyAI e07ba5b9-e49d-4a9a-96bc-f89d03819b42  
[2026-08-20 14:43:05] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19899 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low.  
[2026-08-20 14:43:05] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19899 — extracted reference 'APP429018' but no DSAR matched.  
[2026-08-20 14:43:07] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19899 response_type=acknowledgement.  
[2026-08-20 14:43:07] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19899 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=none).  
[2026-08-20 14:43:31] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA113f38262da558163fe20dc9740b4415","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6383"} 
[2026-08-20 14:43:31] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6383,"CallSid":"CA113f38262da558163fe20dc9740b4415","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA113f38262da558163fe20dc9740b4415","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6383"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:43:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:43:41] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA9c37e0baffac552bcef796fe4e238c90","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6384"} 
[2026-08-20 14:43:41] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6384,"CallSid":"CA9c37e0baffac552bcef796fe4e238c90","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA9c37e0baffac552bcef796fe4e238c90","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6384"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:43:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 14:44:18] production.ERROR: cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/e07ba5b9-e49d-4a9a-96bc-f89d03819b42 {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\ConnectionException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/e07ba5b9-e49d-4a9a-96bc-f89d03819b42 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php:1805)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1081): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->marshalConnectionException(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#39 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/e07ba5b9-e49d-4a9a-96bc-f89d03819b42 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php:579)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(509): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::createRejection(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Array)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(461): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finishError(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlHandler.php(70): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finish(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/Proxy.php(28): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1523): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::wrapSync():27}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1480): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildStubHandler():1505}:1506}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1466): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildRecorderHandler():1478}:1479}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(248): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildBeforeSendingHandler():1464}:1465}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/PrepareBodyMiddleware.php(35): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::mapRequest():246}:247}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(38): GuzzleHttp\\PrepareBodyMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/RedirectMiddleware.php(71): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::cookies():28}:29}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(63): GuzzleHttp\\RedirectMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/HandlerStack.php(75): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::httpErrors():60}:61}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(808): GuzzleHttp\\HandlerStack->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(199): GuzzleHttp\\Client->transfer(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(229): GuzzleHttp\\Client->requestAsync('GET', Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Uri), Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1306): GuzzleHttp\\Client->request('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->sendRequest('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#56 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 14:44:45] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19902 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 14:44:46] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19902 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260819-D1E608' → DSAR 4298.  
[2026-08-20 14:44:48] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19902 response_type=acknowledgement.  
[2026-08-20 14:44:48] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19902 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=4298).  
[2026-08-20 14:44:48] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19902 auto-set DSAR 4298 status → acknowledged (response_type=acknowledgement).  
[2026-08-20 14:44:48] production.ERROR: cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/e07ba5b9-e49d-4a9a-96bc-f89d03819b42 {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\ConnectionException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/e07ba5b9-e49d-4a9a-96bc-f89d03819b42 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php:1805)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1081): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->marshalConnectionException(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#39 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/e07ba5b9-e49d-4a9a-96bc-f89d03819b42 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php:579)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(509): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::createRejection(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Array)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(461): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finishError(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlHandler.php(70): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finish(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/Proxy.php(28): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1523): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::wrapSync():27}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1480): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildStubHandler():1505}:1506}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1466): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildRecorderHandler():1478}:1479}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(248): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildBeforeSendingHandler():1464}:1465}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/PrepareBodyMiddleware.php(35): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::mapRequest():246}:247}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(38): GuzzleHttp\\PrepareBodyMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/RedirectMiddleware.php(71): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::cookies():28}:29}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(63): GuzzleHttp\\RedirectMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/HandlerStack.php(75): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::httpErrors():60}:61}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(808): GuzzleHttp\\HandlerStack->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(199): GuzzleHttp\\Client->transfer(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(229): GuzzleHttp\\Client->requestAsync('GET', Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Uri), Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1306): GuzzleHttp\\Client->request('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->sendRequest('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#56 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 14:44:50] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4424 → AssemblyAI 8c2ad3a9-609c-4a6a-9c9a-e2a4804f6251  
[2026-08-20 14:45:10] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAbe2a1fbee6032d73a61e3c71d01a136c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6385"} 
[2026-08-20 14:45:10] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6385,"CallSid":"CAbe2a1fbee6032d73a61e3c71d01a136c","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAbe2a1fbee6032d73a61e3c71d01a136c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6385"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:45:17] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4423 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:45:17] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4423 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:45:17] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4423. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:45:17] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4423 — too short to classify (duration=22s, words=71).  
[2026-08-20 14:45:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 14:45:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 14:45:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 14:45:59] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4424 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 14:45:59] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4424 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 14:45:59] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4424. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 14:45:59] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4424 — too short to classify (duration=28s, words=74).  
[2026-08-20 14:46:19] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4425 → AssemblyAI 9bf53d1b-885d-4176-95c5-23bbb7bca8d1  
[2026-08-20 14:46:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 14:46:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:47:11] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_29","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_29","CallSid":"CA47701a29272bf7139761046b0d75c41b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6386"} 
[2026-08-20 14:47:11] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6386,"CallSid":"CA47701a29272bf7139761046b0d75c41b","From":"client:agent_production_29","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_29","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_29","CallSid":"CA47701a29272bf7139761046b0d75c41b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6386"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:47:34] production.ERROR: cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/9bf53d1b-885d-4176-95c5-23bbb7bca8d1 {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\ConnectionException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/9bf53d1b-885d-4176-95c5-23bbb7bca8d1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php:1805)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1081): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->marshalConnectionException(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#39 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/9bf53d1b-885d-4176-95c5-23bbb7bca8d1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php:579)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(509): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::createRejection(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Array)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(461): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finishError(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlHandler.php(70): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finish(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/Proxy.php(28): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1523): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::wrapSync():27}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1480): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildStubHandler():1505}:1506}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1466): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildRecorderHandler():1478}:1479}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(248): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildBeforeSendingHandler():1464}:1465}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/PrepareBodyMiddleware.php(35): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::mapRequest():246}:247}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(38): GuzzleHttp\\PrepareBodyMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/RedirectMiddleware.php(71): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::cookies():28}:29}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(63): GuzzleHttp\\RedirectMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/HandlerStack.php(75): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::httpErrors():60}:61}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(808): GuzzleHttp\\HandlerStack->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(199): GuzzleHttp\\Client->transfer(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(229): GuzzleHttp\\Client->requestAsync('GET', Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Uri), Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1306): GuzzleHttp\\Client->request('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->sendRequest('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#56 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 14:47:49] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAeb8cefa1908b4b4f62f2d0c8350605ca","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6387"} 
[2026-08-20 14:47:49] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6387,"CallSid":"CAeb8cefa1908b4b4f62f2d0c8350605ca","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAeb8cefa1908b4b4f62f2d0c8350605ca","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6387"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:48:04] production.ERROR: cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/9bf53d1b-885d-4176-95c5-23bbb7bca8d1 {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\ConnectionException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/9bf53d1b-885d-4176-95c5-23bbb7bca8d1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php:1805)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1081): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->marshalConnectionException(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#39 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/9bf53d1b-885d-4176-95c5-23bbb7bca8d1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php:579)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(509): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::createRejection(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Array)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(461): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finishError(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlHandler.php(70): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finish(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/Proxy.php(28): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1523): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::wrapSync():27}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1480): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildStubHandler():1505}:1506}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1466): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildRecorderHandler():1478}:1479}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(248): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildBeforeSendingHandler():1464}:1465}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/PrepareBodyMiddleware.php(35): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::mapRequest():246}:247}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(38): GuzzleHttp\\PrepareBodyMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/RedirectMiddleware.php(71): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::cookies():28}:29}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(63): GuzzleHttp\\RedirectMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/HandlerStack.php(75): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::httpErrors():60}:61}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(808): GuzzleHttp\\HandlerStack->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(199): GuzzleHttp\\Client->transfer(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(229): GuzzleHttp\\Client->requestAsync('GET', Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Uri), Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1306): GuzzleHttp\\Client->request('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->sendRequest('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#56 {main}
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[2026-08-20 14:48:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 14:48:34] production.ERROR: cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/9bf53d1b-885d-4176-95c5-23bbb7bca8d1 {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\ConnectionException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/9bf53d1b-885d-4176-95c5-23bbb7bca8d1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php:1805)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1081): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->marshalConnectionException(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#39 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/9bf53d1b-885d-4176-95c5-23bbb7bca8d1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php:579)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(509): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::createRejection(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Array)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(461): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finishError(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlHandler.php(70): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finish(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/Proxy.php(28): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1523): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::wrapSync():27}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1480): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildStubHandler():1505}:1506}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1466): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildRecorderHandler():1478}:1479}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(248): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildBeforeSendingHandler():1464}:1465}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/PrepareBodyMiddleware.php(35): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::mapRequest():246}:247}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(38): GuzzleHttp\\PrepareBodyMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/RedirectMiddleware.php(71): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::cookies():28}:29}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(63): GuzzleHttp\\RedirectMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/HandlerStack.php(75): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::httpErrors():60}:61}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(808): GuzzleHttp\\HandlerStack->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(199): GuzzleHttp\\Client->transfer(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(229): GuzzleHttp\\Client->requestAsync('GET', Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Uri), Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1306): GuzzleHttp\\Client->request('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->sendRequest('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#56 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 14:48:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:48:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 14:49:04] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4426 → AssemblyAI db14256b-63b1-45ba-b9a0-c4d13c1526fa  
[2026-08-20 14:49:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 14:49:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 14:50:19] production.ERROR: cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/db14256b-63b1-45ba-b9a0-c4d13c1526fa {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\ConnectionException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/db14256b-63b1-45ba-b9a0-c4d13c1526fa at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php:1805)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1081): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->marshalConnectionException(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#39 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/db14256b-63b1-45ba-b9a0-c4d13c1526fa at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php:579)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(509): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::createRejection(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Array)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(461): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finishError(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlHandler.php(70): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finish(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/Proxy.php(28): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1523): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::wrapSync():27}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1480): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildStubHandler():1505}:1506}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1466): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildRecorderHandler():1478}:1479}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(248): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildBeforeSendingHandler():1464}:1465}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/PrepareBodyMiddleware.php(35): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::mapRequest():246}:247}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(38): GuzzleHttp\\PrepareBodyMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/RedirectMiddleware.php(71): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::cookies():28}:29}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(63): GuzzleHttp\\RedirectMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/HandlerStack.php(75): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::httpErrors():60}:61}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(808): GuzzleHttp\\HandlerStack->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(199): GuzzleHttp\\Client->transfer(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(229): GuzzleHttp\\Client->requestAsync('GET', Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Uri), Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1306): GuzzleHttp\\Client->request('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->sendRequest('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#56 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 14:50:49] production.ERROR: cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/db14256b-63b1-45ba-b9a0-c4d13c1526fa {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\ConnectionException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/db14256b-63b1-45ba-b9a0-c4d13c1526fa at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php:1805)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1081): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->marshalConnectionException(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#39 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/db14256b-63b1-45ba-b9a0-c4d13c1526fa at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php:579)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(509): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::createRejection(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Array)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(461): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finishError(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlHandler.php(70): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finish(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/Proxy.php(28): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1523): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::wrapSync():27}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1480): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildStubHandler():1505}:1506}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1466): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildRecorderHandler():1478}:1479}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(248): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildBeforeSendingHandler():1464}:1465}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/PrepareBodyMiddleware.php(35): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::mapRequest():246}:247}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(38): GuzzleHttp\\PrepareBodyMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/RedirectMiddleware.php(71): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::cookies():28}:29}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(63): GuzzleHttp\\RedirectMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/HandlerStack.php(75): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::httpErrors():60}:61}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(808): GuzzleHttp\\HandlerStack->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(199): GuzzleHttp\\Client->transfer(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(229): GuzzleHttp\\Client->requestAsync('GET', Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Uri), Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1306): GuzzleHttp\\Client->request('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->sendRequest('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#56 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 14:51:19] production.ERROR: cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/db14256b-63b1-45ba-b9a0-c4d13c1526fa {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\ConnectionException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/db14256b-63b1-45ba-b9a0-c4d13c1526fa at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php:1805)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1081): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->marshalConnectionException(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#39 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 15001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript/db14256b-63b1-45ba-b9a0-c4d13c1526fa at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php:579)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(509): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::createRejection(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Array)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(461): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finishError(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlHandler.php(70): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finish(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/Proxy.php(28): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1523): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::wrapSync():27}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1480): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildStubHandler():1505}:1506}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1466): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildRecorderHandler():1478}:1479}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(248): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildBeforeSendingHandler():1464}:1465}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/PrepareBodyMiddleware.php(35): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::mapRequest():246}:247}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(38): GuzzleHttp\\PrepareBodyMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/RedirectMiddleware.php(71): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::cookies():28}:29}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(63): GuzzleHttp\\RedirectMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/HandlerStack.php(75): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::httpErrors():60}:61}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(808): GuzzleHttp\\HandlerStack->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(199): GuzzleHttp\\Client->transfer(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(229): GuzzleHttp\\Client->requestAsync('GET', Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Uri), Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1306): GuzzleHttp\\Client->request('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->sendRequest('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(849): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('GET', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(44): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->get('https://api.ass...')
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#56 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 14:51:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 14:52:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 14:53:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:53:13] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"JE","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA9ef2e57f09ed723d1e6e4d5c50cec251","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E5ZWYyZTU3ZjA5ZWQ3MjNkMWU2ZTRkNWM1MGNlYzI1MSIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3MzgwMTE4ODE0IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIzMzk5MyJ9.COpkavvXzKbouOe4Jl4EfMYe52XFviVPikAeKCrKJ986kpl6ky59fkOIzWlLtqnIQNDNFp2ZdxncjGqsTXKjmg%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447380118814","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"JE","Caller":"+447380118814","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 14:53:37] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","Digits":"hangup","RecordingUrl":"https://api.twilio.com/2010-04-01/Accounts/AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be/Recordings/RE0c8c8c2dae5e1cb70d28741aed47dbcc","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"JE","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA9ef2e57f09ed723d1e6e4d5c50cec251","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"completed","RecordingSid":"RE0c8c8c2dae5e1cb70d28741aed47dbcc","From":"+447380118814","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"JE","Caller":"+447380118814","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null,"RecordingDuration":"10"} 
[2026-08-20 14:53:37] production.ERROR: TwilioController: failed to handle inbound call. {"from":"+447380118814","to":"+441618880834","error":"SQLSTATE[23000]: Integrity constraint violation: 1062 Duplicate entry 'CA9ef2e57f09ed723d1e6e4d5c50cec251' for key 'calls.calls_provider_call_sid_unique' (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: insert into `calls` (`solicitor_id`, `assigned_agent_id`, `answered_by_agent_id`, `solicitor_phone_number_id`, `provider`, `provider_call_sid`, `from_number`, `to_number`, `phone_number_type_slug`, `call_type`, `queue_type`, `target_label`, `target_type`, `is_recorded`, `recording_notice_played`, `meta`, `communication_id`, `updated_at`, `created_at`) values (3, 26, ?, 4, twilio, CA9ef2e57f09ed723d1e6e4d5c50cec251, +447380118814, +441618880834, client, client, ?, Mr Stephen Feeney, Client, 1, 0, {\"twilio_call_status\":\"completed\",\"twilio_direction\":\"inbound\",\"raw_payload\":{\"Called\":\"+441618880834\",\"Digits\":\"hangup\",\"RecordingUrl\":\"https:\\/\\/api.twilio.com\\/2010-04-01\\/Accounts\\/AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be\\/Recordings\\/RE0c8c8c2dae5e1cb70d28741aed47dbcc\",\"ToState\":\"Manchester\",\"CallerCountry\":\"JE\",\"Direction\":\"inbound\",\"CallerState\":null,\"ToZip\":null,\"CallSid\":\"CA9ef2e57f09ed723d1e6e4d5c50cec251\",\"To\":\"+441618880834\",\"CallerZip\":null,\"ToCountry\":\"GB\",\"CalledZip\":null,\"ApiVersion\":\"2010-04-01\",\"CalledCity\":null,\"CallStatus\":\"completed\",\"RecordingSid\":\"RE0c8c8c2dae5e1cb70d28741aed47dbcc\",\"From\":\"+447380118814\",\"AccountSid\":\"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be\",\"CalledCountry\":\"GB\",\"CallerCity\":null,\"ApplicationSid\":\"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2\",\"ToCity\":null,\"FromCountry\":\"JE\",\"Caller\":\"+447380118814\",\"FromCity\":null,\"CalledState\":\"Manchester\",\"FromZip\":null,\"FromState\":null,\"RecordingDuration\":\"10\"}}, 6389, 2026-08-20 14:53:37, 2026-08-20 14:53:37))","exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Database\\UniqueConstraintViolationException(code: 23000): SQLSTATE[23000]: Integrity constraint violation: 1062 Duplicate entry 'CA9ef2e57f09ed723d1e6e4d5c50cec251' for key 'calls.calls_provider_call_sid_unique' (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: insert into `calls` (`solicitor_id`, `assigned_agent_id`, `answered_by_agent_id`, `solicitor_phone_number_id`, `provider`, `provider_call_sid`, `from_number`, `to_number`, `phone_number_type_slug`, `call_type`, `queue_type`, `target_label`, `target_type`, `is_recorded`, `recording_notice_played`, `meta`, `communication_id`, `updated_at`, `created_at`) values (3, 26, ?, 4, twilio, CA9ef2e57f09ed723d1e6e4d5c50cec251, +447380118814, +441618880834, client, client, ?, Mr Stephen Feeney, Client, 1, 0, {\"twilio_call_status\":\"completed\",\"twilio_direction\":\"inbound\",\"raw_payload\":{\"Called\":\"+441618880834\",\"Digits\":\"hangup\",\"RecordingUrl\":\"https:\\/\\/api.twilio.com\\/2010-04-01\\/Accounts\\/AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be\\/Recordings\\/RE0c8c8c2dae5e1cb70d28741aed47dbcc\",\"ToState\":\"Manchester\",\"CallerCountry\":\"JE\",\"Direction\":\"inbound\",\"CallerState\":null,\"ToZip\":null,\"CallSid\":\"CA9ef2e57f09ed723d1e6e4d5c50cec251\",\"To\":\"+441618880834\",\"CallerZip\":null,\"ToCountry\":\"GB\",\"CalledZip\":null,\"ApiVersion\":\"2010-04-01\",\"CalledCity\":null,\"CallStatus\":\"completed\",\"RecordingSid\":\"RE0c8c8c2dae5e1cb70d28741aed47dbcc\",\"From\":\"+447380118814\",\"AccountSid\":\"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be\",\"CalledCountry\":\"GB\",\"CallerCity\":null,\"ApplicationSid\":\"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2\",\"ToCity\":null,\"FromCountry\":\"JE\",\"Caller\":\"+447380118814\",\"FromCity\":null,\"CalledState\":\"Manchester\",\"FromZip\":null,\"FromState\":null,\"RecordingDuration\":\"10\"}}, 6389, 2026-08-20 14:53:37, 2026-08-20 14:53:37)) at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:838)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('insert into `ca...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/MySqlConnection.php(42): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('insert into `ca...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Processors/MySqlProcessor.php(35): Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection->insert('insert into `ca...', Array, 'id')
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4170): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Processors\\MySqlProcessor->processInsertGetId(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder), 'insert into `ca...', Array, 'id')
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(2237): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->insertGetId(Array, 'id')
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1436): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->__call('insertGetId', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1401): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->insertAndSetId(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1240): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->performInsert(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Relations/HasOneOrMany.php(391): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->save()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Relations\\HasOneOrMany->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Relations\\HasOneOrMany::create():388}(Object(App\\Models\\Communication\\Call))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Relations/HasOneOrMany.php(388): tap(Object(App\\Models\\Communication\\Call), Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Actions/Communications/CreateInboundCommunicationAction.php(57): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Relations\\HasOneOrMany->create(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Concerns/ManagesTransactions.php(35): App\\Actions\\Communications\\CreateInboundCommunicationAction->{closure:App\\Actions\\Communications\\CreateInboundCommunicationAction::handle():30}(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/DatabaseManager.php(491): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->transaction(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/Facades/Facade.php(363): Illuminate\\Database\\DatabaseManager->__call('transaction', Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Actions/Communications/CreateInboundCommunicationAction.php(30): Illuminate\\Support\\Facades\\Facade::__callStatic('transaction', Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Actions/Communications/HandleInboundCallAction.php(30): App\\Actions\\Communications\\CreateInboundCommunicationAction->handle(3, Object(App\\Models\\Communication\\SolicitorPhoneNumber), '+447380118814', Object(App\\Models\\Client\\Client), Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Controllers/Twilio/TwilioController.php(33): App\\Actions\\Communications\\HandleInboundCallAction->handle('+447380118814', '+441618880834', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Controllers/Twilio/TwilioController.php(17): App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController->handleInbound(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(App\\Actions\\Communications\\HandleInboundCallAction))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController->__invoke(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(App\\Actions\\Communications\\HandleInboundCallAction))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController), '__invoke')
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController), '__invoke')
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/VerifyTwilioWebhook.php(70): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyTwilioWebhook->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(31): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(51): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#86 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 23000): SQLSTATE[23000]: Integrity constraint violation: 1062 Duplicate entry 'CA9ef2e57f09ed723d1e6e4d5c50cec251' for key 'calls.calls_provider_call_sid_unique' at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/MySqlConnection.php:53)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/MySqlConnection.php(53): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection::insert():42}('insert into `ca...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('insert into `ca...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/MySqlConnection.php(42): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('insert into `ca...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Processors/MySqlProcessor.php(35): Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection->insert('insert into `ca...', Array, 'id')
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4170): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Processors\\MySqlProcessor->processInsertGetId(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder), 'insert into `ca...', Array, 'id')
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(2237): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->insertGetId(Array, 'id')
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1436): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->__call('insertGetId', Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1401): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->insertAndSetId(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Model.php(1240): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->performInsert(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Relations/HasOneOrMany.php(391): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Model->save()
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(393): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Relations\\HasOneOrMany->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Relations\\HasOneOrMany::create():388}(Object(App\\Models\\Communication\\Call))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Relations/HasOneOrMany.php(388): tap(Object(App\\Models\\Communication\\Call), Object(Closure))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Actions/Communications/CreateInboundCommunicationAction.php(57): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Relations\\HasOneOrMany->create(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Concerns/ManagesTransactions.php(35): App\\Actions\\Communications\\CreateInboundCommunicationAction->{closure:App\\Actions\\Communications\\CreateInboundCommunicationAction::handle():30}(Object(Illuminate\\Database\\MySqlConnection))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/DatabaseManager.php(491): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->transaction(Object(Closure))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/Facades/Facade.php(363): Illuminate\\Database\\DatabaseManager->__call('transaction', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Actions/Communications/CreateInboundCommunicationAction.php(30): Illuminate\\Support\\Facades\\Facade::__callStatic('transaction', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Actions/Communications/HandleInboundCallAction.php(30): App\\Actions\\Communications\\CreateInboundCommunicationAction->handle(3, Object(App\\Models\\Communication\\SolicitorPhoneNumber), '+447380118814', Object(App\\Models\\Client\\Client), Array)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Controllers/Twilio/TwilioController.php(33): App\\Actions\\Communications\\HandleInboundCallAction->handle('+447380118814', '+441618880834', Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Controllers/Twilio/TwilioController.php(17): App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController->handleInbound(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(App\\Actions\\Communications\\HandleInboundCallAction))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/ControllerDispatcher.php(46): App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController->__invoke(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(App\\Actions\\Communications\\HandleInboundCallAction))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(21): Illuminate\\Routing\\ControllerDispatcher->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController), '__invoke')
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingRoutingDispatcher.php(35): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->{closure:Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing::dispatch():20}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Routing/TracingControllerDispatcherTracing.php(20): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingRoutingDispatcher->wrapRouteDispatch(Object(Closure), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(265): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Routing\\TracingControllerDispatcherTracing->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(App\\Http\\Controllers\\Twilio\\TwilioController), '__invoke')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Route.php(211): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->runController()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(822): Illuminate\\Routing\\Route->run()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->{closure:Illuminate\\Routing\\Router::runRouteWithinStack():821}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/VerifyTwilioWebhook.php(70): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyTwilioWebhook->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/PassTenantThroughToView.php(17): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\PassTenantThroughToView->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Http/Middleware/Solicitor/SetSolicitorFromDomain.php(49): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): App\\Http\\Middleware\\Solicitor\\SetSolicitorFromDomain->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Middleware/SubstituteBindings.php(50): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Routing\\Middleware\\SubstituteBindings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/VerifyCsrfToken.php(87): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\VerifyCsrfToken->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/View/Middleware/ShareErrorsFromSession.php(48): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\View\\Middleware\\ShareErrorsFromSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(120): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Session/Middleware/StartSession.php(63): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handleStatefulRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Session\\Store), Object(Closure))
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Session\\Middleware\\StartSession->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/AddQueuedCookiesToResponse.php(36): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\AddQueuedCookiesToResponse->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Cookie/Middleware/EncryptCookies.php(74): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Cookie\\Middleware\\EncryptCookies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(821): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(800): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRouteWithinStack(Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route), Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(764): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->runRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Illuminate\\Routing\\Route))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Routing/Router.php(753): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatchToRoute(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(200): Illuminate\\Routing\\Router->dispatch(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->{closure:Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel::dispatchToRouter():197}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/FlushEventsMiddleware.php(13): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#56 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\FlushEventsMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#57 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestIpMiddleware.php(45): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#58 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestIpMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#59 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Http/SetRequestMiddleware.php(31): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#60 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Http\\SetRequestMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#61 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/livewire/livewire/src/Features/SupportDisablingBackButtonCache/DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware.php(19): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#62 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Livewire\\Features\\SupportDisablingBackButtonCache\\DisableBackButtonCacheMiddleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#63 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#64 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/ConvertEmptyStringsToNull.php(31): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#65 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\ConvertEmptyStringsToNull->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#66 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TransformsRequest.php(21): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#67 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/TrimStrings.php(51): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TransformsRequest->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#68 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\TrimStrings->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#69 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePostSize.php(27): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#70 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePostSize->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#71 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance.php(109): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#72 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\PreventRequestsDuringMaintenance->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#73 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/HandleCors.php(61): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#74 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\HandleCors->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#75 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/TrustProxies.php(58): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#76 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\TrustProxies->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#77 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Middleware/InvokeDeferredCallbacks.php(22): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#78 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Middleware\\InvokeDeferredCallbacks->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#79 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Middleware/ValidatePathEncoding.php(26): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#80 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Illuminate\\Http\\Middleware\\ValidatePathEncoding->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#81 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/sentry/sentry-laravel/src/Sentry/Laravel/Tracing/Middleware.php(79): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#82 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(219): Sentry\\Laravel\\Tracing\\Middleware->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request), Object(Closure))
#83 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::carry():194}:195}(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#84 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(175): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#85 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Http/Kernel.php(144): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->sendRequestThroughRouter(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#86 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1220): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Http\\Kernel->handle(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#87 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/public/index.php(20): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleRequest(Object(Illuminate\\Http\\Request))
#88 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 14:53:40] production.INFO: Broadcasting [Illuminate\Notifications\Events\BroadcastNotificationCreated] on channels [private-App.Models.User.User.26] with payload:
{
    "type": "App\\Notifications\\VoicemailReceivedNotification",
    "title": "New Voicemail",
    "message": "From Mr Stephen Feeney \u00b7 0:09",
    "recording_id": 4427,
    "communication_id": 6388,
    "client_id": 1246,
    "caller_name": "Mr Stephen Feeney",
    "duration": 9,
    "solicitor_id": 3,
    "id": "f054237d-433a-4aac-825b-b8ad3e761044",
    "socket": null
}  
[2026-08-20 14:54:04] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11801 (~WRD0908.jpg) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 14:54:06] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19910 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 14:54:06] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19910 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260819-E4BEAF' → DSAR 4304.  
[2026-08-20 14:54:09] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19910 response_type=acknowledgement.  
[2026-08-20 14:54:09] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19910 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=4304).  
[2026-08-20 14:54:09] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19910 auto-set DSAR 4304 status → acknowledged (response_type=acknowledgement).  
[2026-08-20 14:54:10] production.ERROR: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: failed for recording 4427. {"error":"cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript"} 
[2026-08-20 14:54:10] production.ERROR: cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\ConnectionException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php:1805)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1081): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->marshalConnectionException(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/AutoTranscribeRecordingJob.php(93): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('https://api.ass...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob->handle()
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob), false)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#39 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php:579)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(509): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::createRejection(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Array)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(461): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finishError(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlHandler.php(70): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finish(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/Proxy.php(28): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1523): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::wrapSync():27}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1480): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildStubHandler():1505}:1506}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1466): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildRecorderHandler():1478}:1479}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(248): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildBeforeSendingHandler():1464}:1465}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/PrepareBodyMiddleware.php(64): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::mapRequest():246}:247}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(38): GuzzleHttp\\PrepareBodyMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/RedirectMiddleware.php(71): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::cookies():28}:29}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(63): GuzzleHttp\\RedirectMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/HandlerStack.php(75): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::httpErrors():60}:61}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(808): GuzzleHttp\\HandlerStack->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(199): GuzzleHttp\\Client->transfer(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(229): GuzzleHttp\\Client->requestAsync('POST', Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Uri), Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1306): GuzzleHttp\\Client->request('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->sendRequest('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/AutoTranscribeRecordingJob.php(93): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('https://api.ass...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob->handle()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob), false)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#56 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 14:54:30] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19887 (client 414, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 14:55:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 14:55:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:56:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:56:36] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CA7bfc791447f1f4db86b131fd19d7a8a5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6390"} 
[2026-08-20 14:56:36] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6390,"CallSid":"CA7bfc791447f1f4db86b131fd19d7a8a5","From":"client:agent_production_28","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CA7bfc791447f1f4db86b131fd19d7a8a5","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6390"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:56:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 14:57:56] production.ERROR: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: failed for recording 4428. {"error":"cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30000 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript"} 
[2026-08-20 14:57:56] production.ERROR: cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30000 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\ConnectionException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30000 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php:1805)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1081): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->marshalConnectionException(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/AutoTranscribeRecordingJob.php(93): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('https://api.ass...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob->handle()
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob), false)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#39 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30000 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php:579)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(509): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::createRejection(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Array)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(461): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finishError(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlHandler.php(70): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finish(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/Proxy.php(28): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1523): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::wrapSync():27}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1480): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildStubHandler():1505}:1506}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1466): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildRecorderHandler():1478}:1479}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(248): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildBeforeSendingHandler():1464}:1465}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/PrepareBodyMiddleware.php(64): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::mapRequest():246}:247}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(38): GuzzleHttp\\PrepareBodyMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/RedirectMiddleware.php(71): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::cookies():28}:29}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(63): GuzzleHttp\\RedirectMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/HandlerStack.php(75): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::httpErrors():60}:61}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(808): GuzzleHttp\\HandlerStack->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(199): GuzzleHttp\\Client->transfer(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(229): GuzzleHttp\\Client->requestAsync('POST', Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Uri), Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1306): GuzzleHttp\\Client->request('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->sendRequest('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/AutoTranscribeRecordingJob.php(93): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('https://api.ass...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob->handle()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob), false)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#56 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 14:58:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 14:58:59] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA245a39c48d57e3c0b967c5002528b8f7","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6391"} 
[2026-08-20 14:58:59] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6391,"CallSid":"CA245a39c48d57e3c0b967c5002528b8f7","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA245a39c48d57e3c0b967c5002528b8f7","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6391"}} 
[2026-08-20 14:59:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 14:59:39] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAf7dd2202b4452b3a5eb946d314bb5c88","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FmN2RkMjIwMmI0NDUyYjNhNWViOTQ2ZDMxNGJiNWM4OCIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3ODUxMzA2NzM0IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIzNDM3OCJ9.cdSl8w7eBOCxoOSq_OnlBOmrfNsX8DVjoPH6NnKsmRvBN_vWZUl6_Jp8sryklAMVCNW_FDd-m0jL-8VzSfvYbg%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447851306734","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447851306734","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 14:59:45] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAc3dca1db91fc1e92257a85849e6408a5","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FjM2RjYTFkYjkxZmMxZTkyMjU3YTg1ODQ5ZTY0MDhhNSIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3ODUxMzA2NzM0IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIzNDM4NCJ9.0IcHNJf0MDi_C-GJ9eaTMzwAYTvDbxYeM1bGtNJIhB0nifrndJr3nUibJ3f_0JALlwtHeWHLjPWgliKD0fcIQw%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447851306734","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447851306734","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 14:59:55] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAf7dd2202b4452b3a5eb946d314bb5c88","DialCallSid":"CAed30898f4fcd76a220f83baaa667087c","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"12"} 
[2026-08-20 15:00:32] production.ERROR: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: failed for recording 4430. {"error":"cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript"} 
[2026-08-20 15:00:32] production.ERROR: cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\ConnectionException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php:1805)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1081): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->marshalConnectionException(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/AutoTranscribeRecordingJob.php(93): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('https://api.ass...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob->handle()
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob), false)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#39 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php:579)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(509): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::createRejection(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Array)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(461): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finishError(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlHandler.php(70): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finish(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/Proxy.php(28): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1523): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::wrapSync():27}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1480): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildStubHandler():1505}:1506}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1466): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildRecorderHandler():1478}:1479}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(248): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildBeforeSendingHandler():1464}:1465}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/PrepareBodyMiddleware.php(64): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::mapRequest():246}:247}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(38): GuzzleHttp\\PrepareBodyMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/RedirectMiddleware.php(71): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::cookies():28}:29}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(63): GuzzleHttp\\RedirectMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/HandlerStack.php(75): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::httpErrors():60}:61}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(808): GuzzleHttp\\HandlerStack->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(199): GuzzleHttp\\Client->transfer(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(229): GuzzleHttp\\Client->requestAsync('POST', Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Uri), Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1306): GuzzleHttp\\Client->request('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->sendRequest('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/AutoTranscribeRecordingJob.php(93): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('https://api.ass...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob->handle()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob), false)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#56 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 15:00:32] production.ERROR: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: failed for recording 4429. {"error":"cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript"} 
[2026-08-20 15:00:32] production.ERROR: cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\ConnectionException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php:1805)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1081): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->marshalConnectionException(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/AutoTranscribeRecordingJob.php(93): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('https://api.ass...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob->handle()
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob), false)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#39 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php:579)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(509): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::createRejection(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Array)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(461): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finishError(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlHandler.php(70): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finish(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/Proxy.php(28): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1523): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::wrapSync():27}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1480): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildStubHandler():1505}:1506}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1466): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildRecorderHandler():1478}:1479}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(248): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildBeforeSendingHandler():1464}:1465}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/PrepareBodyMiddleware.php(64): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::mapRequest():246}:247}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(38): GuzzleHttp\\PrepareBodyMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/RedirectMiddleware.php(71): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::cookies():28}:29}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(63): GuzzleHttp\\RedirectMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/HandlerStack.php(75): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::httpErrors():60}:61}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(808): GuzzleHttp\\HandlerStack->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(199): GuzzleHttp\\Client->transfer(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(229): GuzzleHttp\\Client->requestAsync('POST', Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Uri), Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1306): GuzzleHttp\\Client->request('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->sendRequest('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/AutoTranscribeRecordingJob.php(93): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('https://api.ass...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob->handle()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob), false)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#56 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 15:00:53] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA295af25095bf479dd21c8c99995a6a99","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6394"} 
[2026-08-20 15:00:53] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6394,"CallSid":"CA295af25095bf479dd21c8c99995a6a99","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA295af25095bf479dd21c8c99995a6a99","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6394"}} 
[2026-08-20 15:01:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 15:01:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 15:02:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:22] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FQSDGR8J4EVXV4SPBVVXWJ"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:22] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FQSDGR8J4EVXV4SPBVVXWJ"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:23] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FQSDJG7C9VTDVBSZYQEG0M"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:23] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FQSDJG7C9VTDVBSZYQEG0M"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:23] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FQSDJYZG8BVVTKWJAR0F21"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:23] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FQSDJYZG8BVVTKWJAR0F21"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:24] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FQSDKD4685S7NX70ZGH63E"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:24] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FQSDKD4685S7NX70ZGH63E"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FQSDNW0QE9N94DXC61TK5M"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:25] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FQSDNW0QE9N94DXC61TK5M"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FQSDPPAM1YVB4ZGXD54X66"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:26] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FQSDPPAM1YVB4ZGXD54X66"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FQSDQ9TTZJEPM87613KG8E"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:26] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FQSDQ9TTZJEPM87613KG8E"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:28] production.INFO: eSign signing-link email: firing trigger (single request link) {"contract_request_id":1039,"documents":7,"has_signing_url":true} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FQSDGR8J4EVXV4SPBVVXWJ"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FQSDJG7C9VTDVBSZYQEG0M"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FQSDJYZG8BVVTKWJAR0F21"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FQSDKD4685S7NX70ZGH63E"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FQSDGR8J4EVXV4SPBVVXWJ"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FQSDJG7C9VTDVBSZYQEG0M"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:34] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FQSDNW0QE9N94DXC61TK5M"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FQSDJYZG8BVVTKWJAR0F21"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FQSDKD4685S7NX70ZGH63E"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FQSDNW0QE9N94DXC61TK5M"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FQSDPPAM1YVB4ZGXD54X66"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FQSDQ9TTZJEPM87613KG8E"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FQSDPPAM1YVB4ZGXD54X66"} 
[2026-08-20 15:04:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FQSDQ9TTZJEPM87613KG8E"} 
[2026-08-20 15:06:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 15:06:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 15:07:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 15:07:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 15:07:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 15:07:37] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAb209fb1b75f4ec93782f20cf815676f5","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FiMjA5ZmIxYjc1ZjRlYzkzNzgyZjIwY2Y4MTU2NzZmNSIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NTA4NDQ3MTc4IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIzNDg1NiJ9.0H0fN_hkV-KOHjWrhC-d8VUbuUVGRvHylKaNR5OZpaCOPifx6RgrmBu9IsucxGCuFNjo8AefQbs5enzrEQsjyw%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447508447178","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447508447178","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 15:08:10] production.ERROR: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: failed for recording 4431. {"error":"cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript"} 
[2026-08-20 15:08:10] production.ERROR: cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript {"exception":"[object] (Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\ConnectionException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php:1805)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1081): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->marshalConnectionException(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/AutoTranscribeRecordingJob.php(93): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('https://api.ass...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob->handle()
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob), false)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#39 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 28: Operation timed out after 30001 milliseconds with 0 bytes received (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://api.assemblyai.com/v2/transcript at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php:579)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(509): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::createRejection(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Array)
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php(461): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finishError(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlHandler.php(70): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory::finish(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\EasyHandle), Object(GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlFactory))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/Proxy.php(28): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\CurlHandler->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1523): GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Handler\\Proxy::wrapSync():27}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1480): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildStubHandler():1505}:1506}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1466): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildRecorderHandler():1478}:1479}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(248): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::buildBeforeSendingHandler():1464}:1465}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/PrepareBodyMiddleware.php(64): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::mapRequest():246}:247}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(38): GuzzleHttp\\PrepareBodyMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/RedirectMiddleware.php(71): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::cookies():28}:29}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Middleware.php(63): GuzzleHttp\\RedirectMiddleware->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/HandlerStack.php(75): GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::{closure:{closure:GuzzleHttp\\Middleware::httpErrors():60}:61}(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(808): GuzzleHttp\\HandlerStack->__invoke(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(199): GuzzleHttp\\Client->transfer(Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Request), Array)
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Client.php(229): GuzzleHttp\\Client->requestAsync('POST', Object(GuzzleHttp\\Psr7\\Uri), Array)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1306): GuzzleHttp\\Client->request('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1043): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->sendRequest('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Support/helpers.php(328): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->{closure:Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest::send():1041}(1)
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(1041): retry(0, Object(Closure), 100, Object(Closure))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/Client/PendingRequest.php(885): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->send('POST', 'https://api.ass...', Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/AutoTranscribeRecordingJob.php(93): Illuminate\\Http\\Client\\PendingRequest->post('https://api.ass...', Array)
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob->handle()
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob), false)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\AutoTranscribeRecordingJob))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#42 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#43 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#44 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#45 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#46 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#47 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#48 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#49 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#50 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#51 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#52 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#53 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#54 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#55 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#56 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 15:08:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 15:13:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 15:16:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 15:16:27] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19915 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 15:16:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 15:16:45] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAb209fb1b75f4ec93782f20cf815676f5","DialCallSid":"CAe6bda09d0b02ae17dacfd2ed43fd787b","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"537"} 
[2026-08-20 15:17:03] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4432 → AssemblyAI d00bb190-4c25-4dfd-8855-d6b67d420882  
[2026-08-20 15:18:03] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4432 → AssemblyAI status=processing (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 15:18:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 15:19:03] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4432 → AssemblyAI status=processing (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 15:20:03] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4432 → AssemblyAI status=processing (check #2)  
[2026-08-20 15:20:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 15:20:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 15:21:04] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4432 → AssemblyAI status=processing (check #3)  
[2026-08-20 15:21:58] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAbd1175a84c14d3c776eeb4133214b4c3","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FiZDExNzVhODRjMTRkM2M3NzZlZWI0MTMzMjE0YjRjMyIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ4MDAwMjgyMzIxIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIzNTcxNyJ9.6rfp8xnk2GE9Ma_e8jooSOIsY22xR9WlEgSEr6Wrt9JYDK_XiFxMgComDNQ2-EywZRZk7I1eBrzy3P6XTgpQzQ%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+448000282321","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+448000282321","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 15:22:04] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4432 → AssemblyAI status=processing (check #4)  
[2026-08-20 15:22:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 15:22:24] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAbd1175a84c14d3c776eeb4133214b4c3","DialCallSid":"CA4246210c21ed79f21197d914b211d914","DialCallStatus":"no-answer","DialCallDuration":null} 
[2026-08-20 15:22:59] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAbd1175a84c14d3c776eeb4133214b4c3","DialCallSid":null,"DialCallStatus":null,"DialCallDuration":null} 
[2026-08-20 15:23:04] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4433 → AssemblyAI e1ba54cc-0f5a-4f20-a997-48f934150fcc  
[2026-08-20 15:23:05] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4432 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #5)  
[2026-08-20 15:23:05] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4432 after 5 checks.  
[2026-08-20 15:23:05] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4432. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 15:23:06] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4432  
[2026-08-20 15:23:55] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAc58eb908c9a73faf8b9c71580b84b3cf","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FjNThlYjkwOGM5YTczZmFmOGI5YzcxNTgwYjg0YjNjZiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ4MDAwMjgyMzIxIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIzNTgzNCJ9.-akojfxUlKYCDHJF0076bi6DAs1z0zE-38v-wT77mplpqcFxmup2JhrXH-VbRjpGfM93RPZOqh29qd_bKq-2nA%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+448000282321","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+448000282321","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 15:24:04] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4433 → AssemblyAI status=processing (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 15:24:21] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAc58eb908c9a73faf8b9c71580b84b3cf","DialCallSid":"CAa4fb205c9528e719caad6c550e825890","DialCallStatus":"no-answer","DialCallDuration":null} 
[2026-08-20 15:24:56] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAc58eb908c9a73faf8b9c71580b84b3cf","DialCallSid":null,"DialCallStatus":null,"DialCallDuration":null} 
[2026-08-20 15:25:00] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4434 → AssemblyAI 4b2e73cd-d424-42ae-83f9-33399ade9e31  
[2026-08-20 15:25:04] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4433 → AssemblyAI status=processing (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 15:25:12] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19917 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 15:26:00] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4434 → AssemblyAI status=processing (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 15:26:04] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4433 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #2)  
[2026-08-20 15:26:04] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4433 after 2 checks.  
[2026-08-20 15:26:04] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4433. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 15:26:05] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4433  
[2026-08-20 15:26:09] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19918 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 15:26:09] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19918 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260820-5DE402' → DSAR 4321.  
[2026-08-20 15:26:11] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19918 response_type=not_responsible.  
[2026-08-20 15:26:11] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19918 → triage_queue=dsar_needs_research (response_type=not_responsible, dsar_id=4321).  
[2026-08-20 15:27:00] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4434 → AssemblyAI status=processing (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 15:28:01] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4434 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #2)  
[2026-08-20 15:28:01] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4434 after 2 checks.  
[2026-08-20 15:28:01] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4434. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 15:28:03] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4434  
[2026-08-20 15:29:12] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19919 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 15:30:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P36ASPPCT1HBN2KB19Y"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:14] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FS8P36ASPPCT1HBN2KB19Y"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P519K9RJ202KJ3HNWWX"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:14] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FS8P519K9RJ202KJ3HNWWX"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P5KEED3G4D8QZ8J5HRT"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:15] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FS8P5KEED3G4D8QZ8J5HRT"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:16] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P64P36SS4FRHZ7HKEWD"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:16] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FS8P64P36SS4FRHZ7HKEWD"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:16] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P8S8V8TJ6JG6B0KH3MK"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:16] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FS8P8S8V8TJ6JG6B0KH3MK"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:17] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P9QFJRA9FQ7EY2VHS8N"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:17] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FS8P9QFJRA9FQ7EY2VHS8N"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:18] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8PAAXRB2VGEJNHV41425"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:18] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FS8PAAXRB2VGEJNHV41425"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:24] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P36ASPPCT1HBN2KB19Y"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:24] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FS8P36ASPPCT1HBN2KB19Y"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P519K9RJ202KJ3HNWWX"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:25] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FS8P519K9RJ202KJ3HNWWX"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P5KEED3G4D8QZ8J5HRT"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:26] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FS8P5KEED3G4D8QZ8J5HRT"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P64P36SS4FRHZ7HKEWD"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:27] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FS8P64P36SS4FRHZ7HKEWD"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P8S8V8TJ6JG6B0KH3MK"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:27] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FS8P8S8V8TJ6JG6B0KH3MK"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P9QFJRA9FQ7EY2VHS8N"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:28] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FS8P9QFJRA9FQ7EY2VHS8N"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8PAAXRB2VGEJNHV41425"} 
[2026-08-20 15:30:29] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FS8PAAXRB2VGEJNHV41425"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:09] production.INFO: eSign signing-link email: firing trigger (single request link) {"contract_request_id":1040,"documents":7,"has_signing_url":true} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:11] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FS8P36ASPPCT1HBN2KB19Y"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:12] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FS8P519K9RJ202KJ3HNWWX"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FS8P5KEED3G4D8QZ8J5HRT"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FS8P64P36SS4FRHZ7HKEWD"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FS8P8S8V8TJ6JG6B0KH3MK"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FS8P9QFJRA9FQ7EY2VHS8N"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:16] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FS8PAAXRB2VGEJNHV41425"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P36ASPPCT1HBN2KB19Y"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P519K9RJ202KJ3HNWWX"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P5KEED3G4D8QZ8J5HRT"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P64P36SS4FRHZ7HKEWD"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P8S8V8TJ6JG6B0KH3MK"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8P9QFJRA9FQ7EY2VHS8N"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FS8PAAXRB2VGEJNHV41425"} 
[2026-08-20 15:31:30] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4435 → AssemblyAI e3707a42-d3b2-43ca-bcfd-9e411d24789c  
[2026-08-20 15:32:32] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4435 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 15:32:32] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4435 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 15:32:32] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4435. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 15:32:32] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: recording 4435 marked 'initial' by agent disposition; skipping classifier.  
[2026-08-20 15:32:59] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441615700550","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA0f04f34e783748ba8a6755052ef77bc5","To":"+441615700550","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0EwZjA0ZjM0ZTc4Mzc0OGJhOGE2NzU1MDUyZWY3N2JjNSIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NzQzNzU2NjkzIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE1NzAwNTUwIiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIzNjM3OCJ9.ABxHGBUmVOKONYFYpo_4ojjdLh0UIN2NmZPSJKqmMsfPBlRLRnTRfVCfPLVm7fEpuraY76u-crJr-Mo_TaVsJw%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447743756693","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447743756693","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 15:33:09] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4436 → AssemblyAI 699eda26-3924-414a-a149-dee998c67888  
[2026-08-20 15:33:42] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 4435. {"total_score":64,"risk_rating":"high_risk","has_sections":true} 
[2026-08-20 15:34:11] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4436 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 15:34:11] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4436 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 15:34:11] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4436. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 15:34:11] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: recording 4436 marked 'initial' by agent disposition; skipping classifier.  
[2026-08-20 15:34:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 15:34:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 15:35:02] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 4436. {"total_score":87,"risk_rating":"acceptable","has_sections":true} 
[2026-08-20 15:38:08] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA0f04f34e783748ba8a6755052ef77bc5","DialCallSid":"CA8701a2869109e15e97c3b93fbdec5b68","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"293"} 
[2026-08-20 15:38:23] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4437 → AssemblyAI 6056fdc8-420b-4c46-8aa5-d02da5f81db4  
[2026-08-20 15:38:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 15:39:24] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4437 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 15:39:24] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4437 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 15:39:24] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4437. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 15:39:24] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=evidence) for recording 4437.  
[2026-08-20 15:42:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 15:43:23] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19924 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 15:43:23] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19924 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260731-E21DC5' → DSAR 4148.  
[2026-08-20 15:43:25] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19924 response_type=acknowledgement.  
[2026-08-20 15:43:25] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19924 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=4148).  
[2026-08-20 15:43:25] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19924 auto-set DSAR 4148 status → acknowledged (response_type=acknowledgement).  
[2026-08-20 15:44:34] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M084G51DF8MB9ZAFYF9CAX66"} 
[2026-08-20 15:44:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M084G52XXG7J4WRJBZSSQV8Z"} 
[2026-08-20 15:44:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M084G539C0ECJWJG2R4C0YYD"} 
[2026-08-20 15:44:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M084G53R0BV1AEJ2R8M93XAY"} 
[2026-08-20 15:44:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 15:44:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M084G567CYNYDQJXANT9W2F9"} 
[2026-08-20 15:44:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M084G572TRH1XZ7NWSF7QYFZ"} 
[2026-08-20 15:44:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M084G57JKK8XB4BVTQGSCV5Y"} 
[2026-08-20 15:44:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M084G581P5BEQH6NGF50P3EV"} 
[2026-08-20 15:44:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M084G58GPECE1GWTRCHX3SQ1"} 
[2026-08-20 15:45:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 15:45:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 15:45:51] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4431 → AssemblyAI 47a41f1d-b9ef-4ec0-9331-b64dbe13396f  
[2026-08-20 15:46:12] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA92bb02ddcc8c235b3782d880b5598eae","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6399"} 
[2026-08-20 15:46:12] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6399,"CallSid":"CA92bb02ddcc8c235b3782d880b5598eae","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA92bb02ddcc8c235b3782d880b5598eae","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6399"}} 
[2026-08-20 15:46:52] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4431 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 15:46:52] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4431 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 15:46:53] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4431. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 15:46:54] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=initial for recording 4431  
[2026-08-20 15:47:27] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4438 → AssemblyAI 1a4f7ab6-eac7-4acb-8c90-f4c27a1251c4  
[2026-08-20 15:47:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 15:47:57] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 4431. {"total_score":72,"risk_rating":"compliance_concern","has_sections":true} 
[2026-08-20 15:48:27] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4438 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 15:48:27] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4438 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 15:48:28] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4438. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 15:48:29] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4438  
[2026-08-20 15:48:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 15:49:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 15:49:16] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA8d06e791044627bcb8f9e5df6339840c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6400"} 
[2026-08-20 15:49:16] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6400,"CallSid":"CA8d06e791044627bcb8f9e5df6339840c","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CA8d06e791044627bcb8f9e5df6339840c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6400"}} 
[2026-08-20 15:49:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 15:49:40] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CAab29f373fc90e4ad72d5670750fe9129","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6401"} 
[2026-08-20 15:49:40] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6401,"CallSid":"CAab29f373fc90e4ad72d5670750fe9129","From":"client:agent_production_28","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CAab29f373fc90e4ad72d5670750fe9129","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6401"}} 
[2026-08-20 15:49:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 15:50:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 15:50:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 15:50:16] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 15:51:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 15:52:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 15:53:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 15:53:37] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4439 → AssemblyAI 1f141761-9617-459b-9166-4ce0bbbb8ea9  
[2026-08-20 15:53:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 15:53:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 15:54:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 15:54:38] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4439 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 15:54:38] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4439 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 15:54:38] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4439. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 15:54:39] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4439  
[2026-08-20 15:56:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 15:57:17] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA29a324b284fd3bbb67094b4a33e37d0b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6402"} 
[2026-08-20 15:57:17] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6402,"CallSid":"CA29a324b284fd3bbb67094b4a33e37d0b","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA29a324b284fd3bbb67094b4a33e37d0b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6402"}} 
[2026-08-20 15:58:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 15:59:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:00:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 16:00:44] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-70ab5a5e-4804-4b99-834a-65cedbd6baf5.pdf  
[2026-08-20 16:00:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 16:01:10] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA5b1abef135a487ea25f3768301e850b2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6403"} 
[2026-08-20 16:01:10] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6403,"CallSid":"CA5b1abef135a487ea25f3768301e850b2","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA5b1abef135a487ea25f3768301e850b2","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6403"}} 
[2026-08-20 16:01:28] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CAf0a6dd23d2506c7ab3ba523e68d602a3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6404"} 
[2026-08-20 16:01:28] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6404,"CallSid":"CAf0a6dd23d2506c7ab3ba523e68d602a3","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CAf0a6dd23d2506c7ab3ba523e68d602a3","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6404"}} 
[2026-08-20 16:01:31] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA7d5e7c292dff6f5852276c7cbb082b2b","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0E3ZDVlN2MyOTJkZmY2ZjU4NTIyNzZjN2NiYjA4MmIyYiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3ODUwNDk0ODcxIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzIzODA5MSJ9.0ubRXpoaFU9ESjG6cQgPHfJwrfT7v4V76J2mVrCgz5r18_1Cq43bvtA5ARftXf5EnRrK8RJlmeHeLIq4-wAeeQ%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447850494871","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447850494871","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 16:01:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:03:14] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA09927a5581f5b867899d1a2aefd8aed4","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6406"} 
[2026-08-20 16:03:14] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6406,"CallSid":"CA09927a5581f5b867899d1a2aefd8aed4","From":"client:agent_production_39","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_39","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_39","CallSid":"CA09927a5581f5b867899d1a2aefd8aed4","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6406"}} 
[2026-08-20 16:03:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 16:03:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 16:05:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:07:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 16:07:27] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: extracted text from attachment 11805 (20260820-DP8631601-MMAL-AckLetter.docx).  
[2026-08-20 16:07:32] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19936 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 16:07:33] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19936 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260818-9337D8' → DSAR 4252.  
[2026-08-20 16:07:35] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19936 response_type=delay_notice.  
[2026-08-20 16:07:35] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19936 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=delay_notice, dsar_id=4252).  
[2026-08-20 16:07:35] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19936 auto-set DSAR 4252 status → acknowledged (response_type=delay_notice).  
[2026-08-20 16:09:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 16:16:08] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19917 (client 999, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 16:16:09] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 16:16:26] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19919 (client 999, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 16:17:40] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA465c6b092bf8869d63eb1ec4a3b30ecf","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6407"} 
[2026-08-20 16:17:40] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6407,"CallSid":"CA465c6b092bf8869d63eb1ec4a3b30ecf","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA465c6b092bf8869d63eb1ec4a3b30ecf","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6407"}} 
[2026-08-20 16:17:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 16:18:23] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19915 (client 1152, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 16:21:33] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4441 → AssemblyAI 5ac5cc49-e932-4c68-ae2c-1879ecdfe2eb  
[2026-08-20 16:22:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 16:22:34] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4441 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 16:22:34] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4441 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 16:22:34] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4441. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 16:22:34] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping non-client call (call_type=institution) for recording 4441.  
[2026-08-20 16:22:37] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4440 → AssemblyAI 05e90730-0b98-4603-9ceb-1534b6bc087b  
[2026-08-20 16:22:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 16:23:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:23:37] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4440 → AssemblyAI status=processing (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 16:24:06] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4440 → AssemblyAI 6094b330-0b8a-44af-8f2e-8940fa1b545b  
[2026-08-20 16:24:35] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4442 → AssemblyAI 7923ad1b-c65c-4af8-82c7-22163f005f84  
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[2026-08-20 16:24:41] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's, St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:43]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I don't even remember that, that's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbog, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbog from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my life.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:04]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:11]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France. He was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care, just like just before going into care? You said you lived in England, was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in, I came from, I was actually on the run in the streets of London and I was, they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care firstly down south and then I'd been put into residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. All me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just a— he was just a— a nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know. I wasn't perfect.
[A 09:47]: Who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Security or whatever to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would gaeck to me, maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:16]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was first appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking things, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go through time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty, or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been pretty clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. Um, what about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. And I was just— I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something. But I never really fought back because it was just—
[A 19:32]: I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before, no long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child, but it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, but the memory's a-maddering. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system, an alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite regularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long, and they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that. Now you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just tunnels of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and the— yeah, how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection, it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got there until I left. I just found that my memories of it aren't very good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, "Back in the day," and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base and there was obviously a few people that I go on with and, uh, yeah, St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it.
[A 32:01]: Thank you. Did anyone witness this happening to you, or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on. Other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is— not every staff was like that. There was only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts, and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchard Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah, I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit, I was in the yellow unit. They were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000. You then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, oh, okay.
[B 38:59]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was in.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:23]: Mm, I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress thing and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's bits of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just arseholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining were really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right. No, they called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I don't remember the, the what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the fact that the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse with St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into, like, where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine it would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same. And when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something, or my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:42]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out, that's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether they were 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the old unit, and we would steal cars and stuff like that. Or we were trying, as I say, when I got out, yeah, home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car, or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be two staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean. But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean. But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Rejoice. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:17]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I'd start— I'd have a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of winning it more. Not that I'd done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten, sometimes it was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else, or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a-doing, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:46]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:55]: Okay. Um, and when you did, uh, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yeah, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely, being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths, I got on really well with the teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you.
[A 75:32]: Yeah, okay. Did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you don't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use— I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks. Yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah. What about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares. I always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares about it.
[A 78:06]: Yeah.
[B 78:08]: And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay, has your experience in care— obviously I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you in a short sentence describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied.
[B 82:13]: I've got zero qualifications.
[A 82:15]: Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that.
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have been and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe, maybe in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, and it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back and you're over the years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I've been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my, yeah, circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: That's it now. And I kind of change that, just try and move on. That's the mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more people— there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
[A 93:03]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's, St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:43]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I don't even remember that, that's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbog, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbog from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my life.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:04]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:11]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France. He was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care, just like just before going into care? You said you lived in England, was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in, I came from, I was actually on the run in the streets of London and I was, they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care firstly down south and then I'd been put into residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. All me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just a— he was just a— a nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know. I wasn't perfect.
[A 09:47]: Who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Security or whatever to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would gaeck to me, maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:16]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was first appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking things, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go through time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty, or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been pretty clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. Um, what about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. And I was just— I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something. But I never really fought back because it was just—
[A 19:32]: I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before, no long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child, but it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, but the memory's a-maddering. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system, an alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite regularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long, and they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that. Now you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just tunnels of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and the— yeah, how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection, it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got there until I left. I just found that my memories of it aren't very good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, "Back in the day," and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base and there was obviously a few people that I go on with and, uh, yeah, St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it.
[A 32:01]: Thank you. Did anyone witness this happening to you, or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on. Other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is— not every staff was like that. There was only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts, and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchard Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah, I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit, I was in the yellow unit. They were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000. You then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, oh, okay.
[B 38:59]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was in.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:23]: Mm, I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress thing and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's bits of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just arseholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining were really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right. No, they called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I don't remember the, the what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the fact that the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse with St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into, like, where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine it would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same. And when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something, or my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:42]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out, that's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether they were 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the old unit, and we would steal cars and stuff like that. Or we were trying, as I say, when I got out, yeah, home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car, or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be two staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean. But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean. But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Rejoice. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:17]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I'd start— I'd have a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of winning it more. Not that I'd done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten, sometimes it was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else, or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a-doing, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:46]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:55]: Okay. Um, and when you did, uh, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yeah, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely, being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths, I got on really well with the teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you.
[A 75:32]: Yeah, okay. Did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you don't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use— I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks. Yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah. What about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares. I always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares about it.
[A 78:06]: Yeah.
[B 78:08]: And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay, has your experience in care— obviously I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you in a short sentence describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied.
[B 82:13]: I've got zero qualifications.
[A 82:15]: Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that.
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have been and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe, maybe in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, and it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back and you're over the years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I've been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my, yeah, circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: That's it now. And I kind of change that, just try and move on. That's the mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more people— there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
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Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's, St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:43]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I don't even remember that, that's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbog, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbog from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my life.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:04]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:11]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France. He was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care, just like just before going into care? You said you lived in England, was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in, I came from, I was actually on the run in the streets of London and I was, they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care firstly down south and then I'd been put into residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. All me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just a— he was just a— a nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know. I wasn't perfect.
[A 09:47]: Who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Security or whatever to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would gaeck to me, maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:16]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was first appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking things, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go through time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty, or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been pretty clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. Um, what about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. And I was just— I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something. But I never really fought back because it was just—
[A 19:32]: I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before, no long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child, but it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, but the memory's a-maddering. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system, an alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite regularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long, and they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that. Now you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just tunnels of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and the— yeah, how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection, it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got there until I left. I just found that my memories of it aren't very good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, \"Back in the day,\" and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base and there was obviously a few people that I go on with and, uh, yeah, St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it.
[A 32:01]: Thank you. Did anyone witness this happening to you, or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on. Other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is— not every staff was like that. There was only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts, and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchard Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah, I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit, I was in the yellow unit. They were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000. You then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, oh, okay.
[B 38:59]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was in.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:23]: Mm, I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress thing and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's bits of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just arseholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining were really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right. No, they called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I don't remember the, the what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the fact that the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse with St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into, like, where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine it would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same. And when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something, or my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:42]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out, that's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether they were 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the old unit, and we would steal cars and stuff like that. Or we were trying, as I say, when I got out, yeah, home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car, or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be two staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean. But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean. But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Rejoice. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:17]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I'd start— I'd have a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of winning it more. Not that I'd done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten, sometimes it was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else, or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a-doing, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:46]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:55]: Okay. Um, and when you did, uh, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yeah, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely, being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths, I got on really well with the teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you.
[A 75:32]: Yeah, okay. Did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you don't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use— I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks. Yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah. What about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares. I always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares about it.
[A 78:06]: Yeah.
[B 78:08]: And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay, has your experience in care— obviously I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you in a short sentence describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied.
[B 82:13]: I've got zero qualifications.
[A 82:15]: Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that.
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have been and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe, maybe in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, and it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back and you're over the years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I've been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my, yeah, circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: That's it now. And I kind of change that, just try and move on. That's the mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more people— there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
[A 93:03]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's, St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:43]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I don't even remember that, that's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbog, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbog from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my life.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:04]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:11]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France. He was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care, just like just before going into care? You said you lived in England, was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in, I came from, I was actually on the run in the streets of London and I was, they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care firstly down south and then I'd been put into residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. All me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just a— he was just a— a nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know. I wasn't perfect.
[A 09:47]: Who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Security or whatever to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would gaeck to me, maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:16]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was first appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking things, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go through time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty, or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been pretty clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. Um, what about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. And I was just— I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something. But I never really fought back because it was just—
[A 19:32]: I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before, no long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child, but it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, but the memory's a-maddering. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system, an alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite regularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long, and they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that. Now you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just tunnels of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and the— yeah, how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection, it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got there until I left. I just found that my memories of it aren't very good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, \"Back in the day,\" and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base and there was obviously a few people that I go on with and, uh, yeah, St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it.
[A 32:01]: Thank you. Did anyone witness this happening to you, or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on. Other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is— not every staff was like that. There was only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts, and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchard Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah, I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit, I was in the yellow unit. They were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000. You then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, oh, okay.
[B 38:59]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was in.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:23]: Mm, I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress thing and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's bits of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just arseholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining were really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right. No, they called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I don't remember the, the what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the fact that the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse with St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into, like, where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine it would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same. And when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something, or my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:42]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out, that's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether they were 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the old unit, and we would steal cars and stuff like that. Or we were trying, as I say, when I got out, yeah, home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car, or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be two staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean. But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean. But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Rejoice. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:17]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I'd start— I'd have a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of winning it more. Not that I'd done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten, sometimes it was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else, or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a-doing, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:46]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:55]: Okay. Um, and when you did, uh, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yeah, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely, being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths, I got on really well with the teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you.
[A 75:32]: Yeah, okay. Did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you don't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use— I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks. Yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah. What about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares. I always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares about it.
[A 78:06]: Yeah.
[B 78:08]: And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay, has your experience in care— obviously I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you in a short sentence describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied.
[B 82:13]: I've got zero qualifications.
[A 82:15]: Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that.
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have been and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe, maybe in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, and it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back and you're over the years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I've been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my, yeah, circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: That's it now. And I kind of change that, just try and move on. That's the mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more people— there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#40 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
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[2026-08-20 16:25:00] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's, St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:43]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I don't even remember that, that's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbog, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbog from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my life.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:04]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:11]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France. He was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care, just like just before going into care? You said you lived in England, was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in, I came from, I was actually on the run in the streets of London and I was, they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care firstly down south and then I'd been put into residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. All me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just a— he was just a— a nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know. I wasn't perfect.
[A 09:47]: Who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Security or whatever to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would gaeck to me, maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:16]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was first appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking things, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go through time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty, or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been pretty clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. Um, what about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. And I was just— I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something. But I never really fought back because it was just—
[A 19:32]: I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before, no long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child, but it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, but the memory's a-maddering. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system, an alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite regularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long, and they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that. Now you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just tunnels of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and the— yeah, how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection, it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got there until I left. I just found that my memories of it aren't very good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, "Back in the day," and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base and there was obviously a few people that I go on with and, uh, yeah, St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it.
[A 32:01]: Thank you. Did anyone witness this happening to you, or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on. Other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is— not every staff was like that. There was only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts, and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchard Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah, I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit, I was in the yellow unit. They were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000. You then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, oh, okay.
[B 38:59]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was in.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:23]: Mm, I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress thing and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's bits of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just arseholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining were really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right. No, they called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I don't remember the, the what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the fact that the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse with St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into, like, where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine it would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same. And when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something, or my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:42]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out, that's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether they were 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the old unit, and we would steal cars and stuff like that. Or we were trying, as I say, when I got out, yeah, home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car, or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be two staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean. But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean. But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Rejoice. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:17]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I'd start— I'd have a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of winning it more. Not that I'd done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten, sometimes it was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else, or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a-doing, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:46]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:55]: Okay. Um, and when you did, uh, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yeah, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely, being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths, I got on really well with the teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you.
[A 75:32]: Yeah, okay. Did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you don't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use— I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks. Yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah. What about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares. I always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares about it.
[A 78:06]: Yeah.
[B 78:08]: And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay, has your experience in care— obviously I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you in a short sentence describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied.
[B 82:13]: I've got zero qualifications.
[A 82:15]: Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that.
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have been and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe, maybe in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, and it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back and you're over the years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I've been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my, yeah, circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: That's it now. And I kind of change that, just try and move on. That's the mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more people— there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
[A 93:03]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's, St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:43]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I don't even remember that, that's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbog, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbog from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my life.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:04]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:11]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France. He was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care, just like just before going into care? You said you lived in England, was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in, I came from, I was actually on the run in the streets of London and I was, they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care firstly down south and then I'd been put into residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. All me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just a— he was just a— a nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know. I wasn't perfect.
[A 09:47]: Who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Security or whatever to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would gaeck to me, maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:16]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was first appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking things, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go through time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty, or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been pretty clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. Um, what about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. And I was just— I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something. But I never really fought back because it was just—
[A 19:32]: I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before, no long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child, but it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, but the memory's a-maddering. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system, an alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite regularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long, and they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that. Now you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just tunnels of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and the— yeah, how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection, it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got there until I left. I just found that my memories of it aren't very good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, "Back in the day," and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base and there was obviously a few people that I go on with and, uh, yeah, St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it.
[A 32:01]: Thank you. Did anyone witness this happening to you, or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on. Other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is— not every staff was like that. There was only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts, and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchard Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah, I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit, I was in the yellow unit. They were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000. You then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, oh, okay.
[B 38:59]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was in.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:23]: Mm, I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress thing and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's bits of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just arseholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining were really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right. No, they called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I don't remember the, the what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the fact that the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse with St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into, like, where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine it would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same. And when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something, or my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:42]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out, that's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether they were 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the old unit, and we would steal cars and stuff like that. Or we were trying, as I say, when I got out, yeah, home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car, or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be two staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean. But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean. But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Rejoice. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:17]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I'd start— I'd have a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of winning it more. Not that I'd done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten, sometimes it was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else, or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a-doing, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:46]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:55]: Okay. Um, and when you did, uh, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yeah, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely, being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths, I got on really well with the teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you.
[A 75:32]: Yeah, okay. Did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you don't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use— I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks. Yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah. What about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares. I always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares about it.
[A 78:06]: Yeah.
[B 78:08]: And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay, has your experience in care— obviously I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you in a short sentence describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied.
[B 82:13]: I've got zero qualifications.
[A 82:15]: Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that.
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have been and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe, maybe in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, and it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back and you're over the years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I've been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my, yeah, circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: That's it now. And I kind of change that, just try and move on. That's the mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more people— there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
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Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's, St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:43]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I don't even remember that, that's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbog, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbog from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my life.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:04]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:11]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France. He was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care, just like just before going into care? You said you lived in England, was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in, I came from, I was actually on the run in the streets of London and I was, they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care firstly down south and then I'd been put into residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. All me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just a— he was just a— a nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know. I wasn't perfect.
[A 09:47]: Who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Security or whatever to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would gaeck to me, maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:16]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was first appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking things, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go through time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty, or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been pretty clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. Um, what about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. And I was just— I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something. But I never really fought back because it was just—
[A 19:32]: I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before, no long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child, but it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, but the memory's a-maddering. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system, an alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite regularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long, and they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that. Now you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just tunnels of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and the— yeah, how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection, it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got there until I left. I just found that my memories of it aren't very good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, \"Back in the day,\" and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base and there was obviously a few people that I go on with and, uh, yeah, St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it.
[A 32:01]: Thank you. Did anyone witness this happening to you, or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on. Other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is— not every staff was like that. There was only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts, and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchard Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah, I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit, I was in the yellow unit. They were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000. You then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, oh, okay.
[B 38:59]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was in.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:23]: Mm, I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress thing and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's bits of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just arseholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining were really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right. No, they called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I don't remember the, the what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the fact that the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse with St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into, like, where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine it would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same. And when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something, or my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:42]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out, that's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether they were 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the old unit, and we would steal cars and stuff like that. Or we were trying, as I say, when I got out, yeah, home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car, or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be two staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean. But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean. But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Rejoice. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:17]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I'd start— I'd have a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of winning it more. Not that I'd done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten, sometimes it was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else, or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a-doing, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:46]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:55]: Okay. Um, and when you did, uh, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yeah, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely, being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths, I got on really well with the teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you.
[A 75:32]: Yeah, okay. Did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you don't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use— I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks. Yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah. What about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares. I always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares about it.
[A 78:06]: Yeah.
[B 78:08]: And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay, has your experience in care— obviously I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you in a short sentence describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied.
[B 82:13]: I've got zero qualifications.
[A 82:15]: Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that.
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have been and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe, maybe in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, and it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back and you're over the years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I've been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my, yeah, circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: That's it now. And I kind of change that, just try and move on. That's the mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more people— there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
[A 93:03]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's, St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:43]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I don't even remember that, that's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbog, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbog from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my life.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:04]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:11]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France. He was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care, just like just before going into care? You said you lived in England, was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in, I came from, I was actually on the run in the streets of London and I was, they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care firstly down south and then I'd been put into residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. All me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just a— he was just a— a nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know. I wasn't perfect.
[A 09:47]: Who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Security or whatever to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would gaeck to me, maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:16]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was first appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking things, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go through time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty, or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been pretty clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. Um, what about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. And I was just— I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something. But I never really fought back because it was just—
[A 19:32]: I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before, no long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child, but it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, but the memory's a-maddering. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system, an alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite regularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long, and they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that. Now you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just tunnels of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and the— yeah, how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection, it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got there until I left. I just found that my memories of it aren't very good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, \"Back in the day,\" and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base and there was obviously a few people that I go on with and, uh, yeah, St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it.
[A 32:01]: Thank you. Did anyone witness this happening to you, or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on. Other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is— not every staff was like that. There was only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts, and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchard Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah, I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit, I was in the yellow unit. They were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000. You then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, oh, okay.
[B 38:59]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was in.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:23]: Mm, I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress thing and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's bits of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just arseholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining were really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right. No, they called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I don't remember the, the what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the fact that the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse with St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into, like, where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine it would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same. And when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something, or my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:42]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out, that's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether they were 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the old unit, and we would steal cars and stuff like that. Or we were trying, as I say, when I got out, yeah, home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car, or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be two staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean. But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean. But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Rejoice. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:17]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I'd start— I'd have a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of winning it more. Not that I'd done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten, sometimes it was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else, or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a-doing, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:46]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:55]: Okay. Um, and when you did, uh, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yeah, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely, being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths, I got on really well with the teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you.
[A 75:32]: Yeah, okay. Did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you don't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use— I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks. Yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah. What about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares. I always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares about it.
[A 78:06]: Yeah.
[B 78:08]: And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay, has your experience in care— obviously I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you in a short sentence describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied.
[B 82:13]: I've got zero qualifications.
[A 82:15]: Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that.
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have been and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe, maybe in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, and it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back and you're over the years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I've been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my, yeah, circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: That's it now. And I kind of change that, just try and move on. That's the mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more people— there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
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#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#40 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
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[2026-08-20 16:25:13] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:44]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I mean, I remember that. That's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St. Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh, really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbank, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbank from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my way.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:05]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:12]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France he was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care? Just like, just before going into care, you said you lived in England. Was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in— I came from— I was actually on the run in the streets of London, and I was— they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care, firstly down south, and then I'd been put in a residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. Me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just out. He was just out. A nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know.
[A 09:46]: I wasn't perfect, but who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was just a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Secure, you know, or whatever, to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would guesstimate maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:15]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was forced appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking anything, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go over time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty? Or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. What about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something.
[A 19:30]: But I never really fought back because I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before— no, long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child. But it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, with the memories in my brain. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system and alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite irregularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long. And they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that, you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just hundreds of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got up there until I left. I just found that my memory's all gone. We're good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, "Back in the day," and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base, and there was obviously a few people that I go on with in there.
[A 30:38]: Yeah.
[B 30:39]: St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up, or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it, thank you.
[A 32:02]: Did anyone witness this happening to you or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on, other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is, not every staff was like that, there was, this is only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember it. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchid Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah. I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit I was in, the yellow unit, were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000, you then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, okay.
[B 38:58]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Um, okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:24]: I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's parts of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just assholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining was really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right.
[A 48:12]: No.
[B 48:13]: They called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I can't remember what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into like where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine we would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same, and when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something or you're— my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:41]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out. That's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether we're 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the open unit and we would steal cars and stuff like that, or we were trying— as I say, when I got out to a home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be— maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be 2 staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean? But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean? But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it was, it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, it was, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Regios. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:18]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about— see, there's going to be bits of your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I started— I had a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of going a bit more— no, that I've done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about, um, Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten sometimes. It was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a doon, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a wholehead house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:45]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:54]: Okay. And when you did, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yes, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely. Being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths. I got on really well with a teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you. Yeah.
[A 75:34]: Okay, did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you didn't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use? I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks, yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah, what about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares of it. I would always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares of it, yeah. And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay. Has your experience in care— obviously, I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you, in a short sentence, describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied. Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: Um, I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that. I've never—
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have, I have been, and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe been in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, aye. And it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back in your older years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I'd been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my— yeah, my living circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: But then this is now and you can't change that, just try and move on. That's the Liverpool mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more— people, there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
[A 93:03]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:44]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I mean, I remember that. That's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St. Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh, really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbank, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbank from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my way.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:05]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:12]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France he was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care? Just like, just before going into care, you said you lived in England. Was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in— I came from— I was actually on the run in the streets of London, and I was— they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care, firstly down south, and then I'd been put in a residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. Me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just out. He was just out. A nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know.
[A 09:46]: I wasn't perfect, but who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was just a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Secure, you know, or whatever, to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would guesstimate maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:15]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was forced appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking anything, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go over time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty? Or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. What about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something.
[A 19:30]: But I never really fought back because I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before— no, long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child. But it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, with the memories in my brain. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system and alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite irregularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long. And they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that, you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just hundreds of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got up there until I left. I just found that my memory's all gone. We're good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, "Back in the day," and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base, and there was obviously a few people that I go on with in there.
[A 30:38]: Yeah.
[B 30:39]: St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up, or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it, thank you.
[A 32:02]: Did anyone witness this happening to you or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on, other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is, not every staff was like that, there was, this is only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember it. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchid Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah. I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit I was in, the yellow unit, were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000, you then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, okay.
[B 38:58]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Um, okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:24]: I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's parts of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just assholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining was really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right.
[A 48:12]: No.
[B 48:13]: They called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I can't remember what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into like where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine we would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same, and when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something or you're— my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:41]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out. That's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether we're 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the open unit and we would steal cars and stuff like that, or we were trying— as I say, when I got out to a home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be— maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be 2 staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean? But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean? But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it was, it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, it was, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Regios. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:18]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about— see, there's going to be bits of your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I started— I had a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of going a bit more— no, that I've done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about, um, Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten sometimes. It was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a doon, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a wholehead house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:45]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:54]: Okay. And when you did, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yes, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely. Being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths. I got on really well with a teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you. Yeah.
[A 75:34]: Okay, did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you didn't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use? I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks, yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah, what about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares of it. I would always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares of it, yeah. And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay. Has your experience in care— obviously, I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you, in a short sentence, describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied. Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: Um, I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that. I've never—
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have, I have been, and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe been in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, aye. And it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back in your older years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I'd been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my— yeah, my living circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: But then this is now and you can't change that, just try and move on. That's the Liverpool mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more— people, there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
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Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:44]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I mean, I remember that. That's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St. Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh, really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbank, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbank from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my way.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:05]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:12]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France he was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care? Just like, just before going into care, you said you lived in England. Was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in— I came from— I was actually on the run in the streets of London, and I was— they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care, firstly down south, and then I'd been put in a residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. Me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just out. He was just out. A nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know.
[A 09:46]: I wasn't perfect, but who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was just a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Secure, you know, or whatever, to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would guesstimate maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:15]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was forced appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking anything, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go over time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty? Or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. What about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something.
[A 19:30]: But I never really fought back because I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before— no, long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child. But it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, with the memories in my brain. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system and alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite irregularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long. And they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that, you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just hundreds of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got up there until I left. I just found that my memory's all gone. We're good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, \"Back in the day,\" and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base, and there was obviously a few people that I go on with in there.
[A 30:38]: Yeah.
[B 30:39]: St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up, or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it, thank you.
[A 32:02]: Did anyone witness this happening to you or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on, other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is, not every staff was like that, there was, this is only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember it. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchid Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah. I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit I was in, the yellow unit, were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000, you then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, okay.
[B 38:58]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Um, okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:24]: I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's parts of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just assholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining was really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right.
[A 48:12]: No.
[B 48:13]: They called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I can't remember what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into like where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine we would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same, and when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something or you're— my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:41]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out. That's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether we're 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the open unit and we would steal cars and stuff like that, or we were trying— as I say, when I got out to a home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be— maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be 2 staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean? But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean? But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it was, it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, it was, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Regios. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:18]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about— see, there's going to be bits of your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I started— I had a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of going a bit more— no, that I've done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about, um, Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten sometimes. It was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a doon, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a wholehead house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:45]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:54]: Okay. And when you did, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yes, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely. Being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths. I got on really well with a teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you. Yeah.
[A 75:34]: Okay, did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you didn't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use? I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks, yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah, what about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares of it. I would always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares of it, yeah. And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay. Has your experience in care— obviously, I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you, in a short sentence, describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied. Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: Um, I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that. I've never—
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have, I have been, and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe been in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, aye. And it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back in your older years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I'd been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my— yeah, my living circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: But then this is now and you can't change that, just try and move on. That's the Liverpool mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more— people, there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
[A 93:03]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:44]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I mean, I remember that. That's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St. Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh, really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbank, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbank from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my way.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:05]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:12]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France he was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care? Just like, just before going into care, you said you lived in England. Was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in— I came from— I was actually on the run in the streets of London, and I was— they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care, firstly down south, and then I'd been put in a residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. Me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just out. He was just out. A nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know.
[A 09:46]: I wasn't perfect, but who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was just a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Secure, you know, or whatever, to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would guesstimate maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:15]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was forced appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking anything, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go over time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty? Or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. What about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something.
[A 19:30]: But I never really fought back because I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before— no, long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child. But it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, with the memories in my brain. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system and alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite irregularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long. And they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that, you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just hundreds of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got up there until I left. I just found that my memory's all gone. We're good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, \"Back in the day,\" and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base, and there was obviously a few people that I go on with in there.
[A 30:38]: Yeah.
[B 30:39]: St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up, or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it, thank you.
[A 32:02]: Did anyone witness this happening to you or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on, other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is, not every staff was like that, there was, this is only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember it. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchid Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah. I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit I was in, the yellow unit, were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000, you then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, okay.
[B 38:58]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Um, okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:24]: I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's parts of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just assholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining was really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right.
[A 48:12]: No.
[B 48:13]: They called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I can't remember what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into like where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine we would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same, and when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something or you're— my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:41]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out. That's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether we're 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the open unit and we would steal cars and stuff like that, or we were trying— as I say, when I got out to a home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be— maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be 2 staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean? But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean? But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it was, it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, it was, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Regios. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:18]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about— see, there's going to be bits of your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I started— I had a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of going a bit more— no, that I've done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about, um, Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten sometimes. It was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a doon, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a wholehead house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:45]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:54]: Okay. And when you did, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yes, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely. Being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths. I got on really well with a teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you. Yeah.
[A 75:34]: Okay, did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you didn't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use? I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks, yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah, what about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares of it. I would always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares of it, yeah. And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay. Has your experience in care— obviously, I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you, in a short sentence, describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied. Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: Um, I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that. I've never—
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have, I have been, and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe been in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, aye. And it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back in your older years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I'd been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my— yeah, my living circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: But then this is now and you can't change that, just try and move on. That's the Liverpool mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more— people, there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
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[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#40 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#42 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWD98754BJED8TMNNZH8JC"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:14] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FWD98754BJED8TMNNZH8JC"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWD99296QERX99TQXPBF93"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:14] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FWD99296QERX99TQXPBF93"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWD99Q3QFK3E80MAHX9NRF"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:15] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FWD99Q3QFK3E80MAHX9NRF"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:21] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4440 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #1)  
[2026-08-20 16:25:21] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's, St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:43]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I don't even remember that, that's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbog, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbog from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my life.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:04]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:11]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France. He was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care, just like just before going into care? You said you lived in England, was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in, I came from, I was actually on the run in the streets of London and I was, they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care firstly down south and then I'd been put into residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. All me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just a— he was just a— a nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know. I wasn't perfect.
[A 09:47]: Who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Security or whatever to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would gaeck to me, maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:16]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was first appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking things, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go through time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty, or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been pretty clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. Um, what about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. And I was just— I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something. But I never really fought back because it was just—
[A 19:32]: I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before, no long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child, but it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, but the memory's a-maddering. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system, an alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite regularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long, and they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that. Now you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just tunnels of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and the— yeah, how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection, it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got there until I left. I just found that my memories of it aren't very good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, "Back in the day," and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base and there was obviously a few people that I go on with and, uh, yeah, St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it.
[A 32:01]: Thank you. Did anyone witness this happening to you, or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on. Other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is— not every staff was like that. There was only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts, and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchard Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah, I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit, I was in the yellow unit. They were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000. You then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, oh, okay.
[B 38:59]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was in.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:23]: Mm, I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress thing and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's bits of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just arseholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining were really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right. No, they called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I don't remember the, the what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the fact that the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse with St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into, like, where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine it would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same. And when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something, or my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:42]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out, that's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether they were 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the old unit, and we would steal cars and stuff like that. Or we were trying, as I say, when I got out, yeah, home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car, or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be two staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean. But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean. But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Rejoice. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:17]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I'd start— I'd have a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of winning it more. Not that I'd done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten, sometimes it was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else, or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a-doing, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:46]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:55]: Okay. Um, and when you did, uh, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yeah, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely, being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths, I got on really well with the teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you.
[A 75:32]: Yeah, okay. Did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you don't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use— I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks. Yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah. What about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares. I always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares about it.
[A 78:06]: Yeah.
[B 78:08]: And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay, has your experience in care— obviously I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you in a short sentence describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied.
[B 82:13]: I've got zero qualifications.
[A 82:15]: Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that.
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have been and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe, maybe in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, and it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back and you're over the years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I've been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my, yeah, circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: That's it now. And I kind of change that, just try and move on. That's the mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more people— there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
[A 93:03]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's, St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:43]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I don't even remember that, that's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbog, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbog from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my life.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:04]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:11]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France. He was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care, just like just before going into care? You said you lived in England, was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in, I came from, I was actually on the run in the streets of London and I was, they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care firstly down south and then I'd been put into residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. All me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just a— he was just a— a nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know. I wasn't perfect.
[A 09:47]: Who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Security or whatever to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would gaeck to me, maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:16]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was first appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking things, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go through time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty, or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been pretty clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. Um, what about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. And I was just— I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something. But I never really fought back because it was just—
[A 19:32]: I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before, no long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child, but it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, but the memory's a-maddering. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system, an alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite regularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long, and they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that. Now you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just tunnels of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and the— yeah, how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection, it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got there until I left. I just found that my memories of it aren't very good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, "Back in the day," and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base and there was obviously a few people that I go on with and, uh, yeah, St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it.
[A 32:01]: Thank you. Did anyone witness this happening to you, or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on. Other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is— not every staff was like that. There was only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts, and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchard Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah, I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit, I was in the yellow unit. They were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000. You then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, oh, okay.
[B 38:59]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was in.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:23]: Mm, I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress thing and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's bits of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just arseholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining were really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right. No, they called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I don't remember the, the what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the fact that the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse with St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into, like, where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine it would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same. And when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something, or my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:42]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out, that's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether they were 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the old unit, and we would steal cars and stuff like that. Or we were trying, as I say, when I got out, yeah, home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car, or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be two staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean. But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean. But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Rejoice. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:17]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I'd start— I'd have a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of winning it more. Not that I'd done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten, sometimes it was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else, or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a-doing, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:46]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:55]: Okay. Um, and when you did, uh, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yeah, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely, being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths, I got on really well with the teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you.
[A 75:32]: Yeah, okay. Did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you don't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use— I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks. Yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah. What about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares. I always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares about it.
[A 78:06]: Yeah.
[B 78:08]: And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay, has your experience in care— obviously I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you in a short sentence describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied.
[B 82:13]: I've got zero qualifications.
[A 82:15]: Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that.
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have been and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe, maybe in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, and it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back and you're over the years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I've been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my, yeah, circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: That's it now. And I kind of change that, just try and move on. That's the mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more people— there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
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Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's, St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:43]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I don't even remember that, that's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbog, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbog from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my life.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:04]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:11]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France. He was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care, just like just before going into care? You said you lived in England, was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in, I came from, I was actually on the run in the streets of London and I was, they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care firstly down south and then I'd been put into residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. All me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just a— he was just a— a nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know. I wasn't perfect.
[A 09:47]: Who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Security or whatever to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would gaeck to me, maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:16]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was first appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking things, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go through time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty, or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been pretty clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. Um, what about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. And I was just— I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something. But I never really fought back because it was just—
[A 19:32]: I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before, no long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child, but it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, but the memory's a-maddering. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system, an alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite regularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long, and they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that. Now you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just tunnels of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and the— yeah, how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection, it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got there until I left. I just found that my memories of it aren't very good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, \"Back in the day,\" and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base and there was obviously a few people that I go on with and, uh, yeah, St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it.
[A 32:01]: Thank you. Did anyone witness this happening to you, or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on. Other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is— not every staff was like that. There was only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts, and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchard Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah, I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit, I was in the yellow unit. They were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000. You then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, oh, okay.
[B 38:59]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was in.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:23]: Mm, I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress thing and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's bits of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just arseholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining were really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right. No, they called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I don't remember the, the what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the fact that the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse with St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into, like, where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine it would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same. And when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something, or my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:42]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out, that's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether they were 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the old unit, and we would steal cars and stuff like that. Or we were trying, as I say, when I got out, yeah, home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car, or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be two staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean. But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean. But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Rejoice. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:17]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I'd start— I'd have a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of winning it more. Not that I'd done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten, sometimes it was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else, or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a-doing, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:46]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:55]: Okay. Um, and when you did, uh, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yeah, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely, being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths, I got on really well with the teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you.
[A 75:32]: Yeah, okay. Did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you don't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use— I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks. Yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah. What about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares. I always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares about it.
[A 78:06]: Yeah.
[B 78:08]: And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay, has your experience in care— obviously I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you in a short sentence describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied.
[B 82:13]: I've got zero qualifications.
[A 82:15]: Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that.
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have been and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe, maybe in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, and it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back and you're over the years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I've been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my, yeah, circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: That's it now. And I kind of change that, just try and move on. That's the mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more people— there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
[A 93:03]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's, St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:43]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I don't even remember that, that's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbog, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbog from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my life.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:04]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:11]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France. He was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care, just like just before going into care? You said you lived in England, was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in, I came from, I was actually on the run in the streets of London and I was, they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care firstly down south and then I'd been put into residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. All me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just a— he was just a— a nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know. I wasn't perfect.
[A 09:47]: Who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Security or whatever to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would gaeck to me, maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:16]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was first appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking things, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go through time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty, or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been pretty clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. Um, what about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. And I was just— I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something. But I never really fought back because it was just—
[A 19:32]: I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before, no long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child, but it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, but the memory's a-maddering. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system, an alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite regularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long, and they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that. Now you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just tunnels of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and the— yeah, how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection, it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got there until I left. I just found that my memories of it aren't very good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, \"Back in the day,\" and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base and there was obviously a few people that I go on with and, uh, yeah, St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it.
[A 32:01]: Thank you. Did anyone witness this happening to you, or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on. Other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is— not every staff was like that. There was only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts, and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchard Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah, I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit, I was in the yellow unit. They were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000. You then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, oh, okay.
[B 38:59]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was in.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:23]: Mm, I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress thing and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's bits of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just arseholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining were really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right. No, they called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I don't remember the, the what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the fact that the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse with St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into, like, where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine it would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same. And when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something, or my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:42]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out, that's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether they were 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the old unit, and we would steal cars and stuff like that. Or we were trying, as I say, when I got out, yeah, home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car, or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be two staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean. But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean. But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Rejoice. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:17]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I'd start— I'd have a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of winning it more. Not that I'd done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten, sometimes it was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else, or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a-doing, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:46]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:55]: Okay. Um, and when you did, uh, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yeah, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely, being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths, I got on really well with the teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you.
[A 75:32]: Yeah, okay. Did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you don't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use— I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks. Yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah. What about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares. I always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares about it.
[A 78:06]: Yeah.
[B 78:08]: And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay, has your experience in care— obviously I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you in a short sentence describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied.
[B 82:13]: I've got zero qualifications.
[A 82:15]: Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that.
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have been and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe, maybe in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, and it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back and you're over the years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I've been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my, yeah, circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: That's it now. And I kind of change that, just try and move on. That's the mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more people— there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
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[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#40 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#42 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:22] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWD92177V79JGDQ8YDTPF2"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:22] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FWD92177V79JGDQ8YDTPF2"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:22] production.INFO: eSign signing-link email: firing trigger (single request link) {"contract_request_id":1041,"documents":8,"has_signing_url":true} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:22] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWD940Y99RSGTK93323CPN"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:23] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWD94FVEYTPFQQM7BZWB65"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:24] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWD94Y7QMQW18C9X072WH8"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWD978FBWD29F0NBHRZYK5"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWD98754BJED8TMNNZH8JC"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWD99296QERX99TQXPBF93"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWD99Q3QFK3E80MAHX9NRF"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FWD92177V79JGDQ8YDTPF2"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:31] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4440 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 16:25:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:31] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:44]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I mean, I remember that. That's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St. Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh, really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbank, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbank from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my way.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:05]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:12]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France he was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care? Just like, just before going into care, you said you lived in England. Was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in— I came from— I was actually on the run in the streets of London, and I was— they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care, firstly down south, and then I'd been put in a residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. Me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just out. He was just out. A nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know.
[A 09:46]: I wasn't perfect, but who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was just a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Secure, you know, or whatever, to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would guesstimate maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:15]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was forced appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking anything, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go over time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty? Or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. What about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something.
[A 19:30]: But I never really fought back because I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before— no, long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child. But it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, with the memories in my brain. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system and alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite irregularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long. And they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that, you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just hundreds of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got up there until I left. I just found that my memory's all gone. We're good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, "Back in the day," and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base, and there was obviously a few people that I go on with in there.
[A 30:38]: Yeah.
[B 30:39]: St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up, or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it, thank you.
[A 32:02]: Did anyone witness this happening to you or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on, other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is, not every staff was like that, there was, this is only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember it. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchid Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah. I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit I was in, the yellow unit, were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000, you then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, okay.
[B 38:58]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Um, okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:24]: I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's parts of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just assholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining was really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right.
[A 48:12]: No.
[B 48:13]: They called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I can't remember what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into like where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine we would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same, and when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something or you're— my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:41]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out. That's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether we're 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the open unit and we would steal cars and stuff like that, or we were trying— as I say, when I got out to a home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be— maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be 2 staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean? But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean? But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it was, it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, it was, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Regios. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:18]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about— see, there's going to be bits of your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I started— I had a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of going a bit more— no, that I've done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about, um, Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten sometimes. It was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a doon, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a wholehead house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:45]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:54]: Okay. And when you did, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yes, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely. Being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths. I got on really well with a teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you. Yeah.
[A 75:34]: Okay, did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you didn't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use? I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks, yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah, what about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares of it. I would always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares of it, yeah. And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay. Has your experience in care— obviously, I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you, in a short sentence, describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied. Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: Um, I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that. I've never—
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have, I have been, and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe been in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, aye. And it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back in your older years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I'd been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my— yeah, my living circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: But then this is now and you can't change that, just try and move on. That's the Liverpool mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more— people, there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
[A 93:03]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:44]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I mean, I remember that. That's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St. Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh, really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbank, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbank from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my way.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:05]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:12]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France he was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care? Just like, just before going into care, you said you lived in England. Was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in— I came from— I was actually on the run in the streets of London, and I was— they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care, firstly down south, and then I'd been put in a residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. Me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just out. He was just out. A nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know.
[A 09:46]: I wasn't perfect, but who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was just a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Secure, you know, or whatever, to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would guesstimate maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:15]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was forced appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking anything, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go over time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty? Or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. What about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something.
[A 19:30]: But I never really fought back because I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before— no, long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child. But it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, with the memories in my brain. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system and alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite irregularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long. And they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that, you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just hundreds of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got up there until I left. I just found that my memory's all gone. We're good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, "Back in the day," and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base, and there was obviously a few people that I go on with in there.
[A 30:38]: Yeah.
[B 30:39]: St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up, or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it, thank you.
[A 32:02]: Did anyone witness this happening to you or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on, other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is, not every staff was like that, there was, this is only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember it. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchid Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah. I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit I was in, the yellow unit, were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000, you then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, okay.
[B 38:58]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Um, okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:24]: I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's parts of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just assholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining was really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right.
[A 48:12]: No.
[B 48:13]: They called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I can't remember what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into like where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine we would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same, and when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something or you're— my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:41]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out. That's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether we're 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the open unit and we would steal cars and stuff like that, or we were trying— as I say, when I got out to a home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be— maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be 2 staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean? But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean? But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it was, it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, it was, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Regios. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:18]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about— see, there's going to be bits of your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I started— I had a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of going a bit more— no, that I've done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about, um, Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten sometimes. It was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a doon, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a wholehead house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:45]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:54]: Okay. And when you did, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yes, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely. Being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths. I got on really well with a teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you. Yeah.
[A 75:34]: Okay, did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you didn't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use? I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks, yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah, what about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares of it. I would always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares of it, yeah. And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay. Has your experience in care— obviously, I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you, in a short sentence, describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied. Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: Um, I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that. I've never—
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have, I have been, and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe been in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, aye. And it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back in your older years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I'd been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my— yeah, my living circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: But then this is now and you can't change that, just try and move on. That's the Liverpool mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more— people, there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
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Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:44]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I mean, I remember that. That's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St. Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh, really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbank, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbank from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my way.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:05]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:12]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France he was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care? Just like, just before going into care, you said you lived in England. Was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in— I came from— I was actually on the run in the streets of London, and I was— they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care, firstly down south, and then I'd been put in a residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. Me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just out. He was just out. A nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know.
[A 09:46]: I wasn't perfect, but who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was just a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Secure, you know, or whatever, to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would guesstimate maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:15]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was forced appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking anything, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go over time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty? Or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. What about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something.
[A 19:30]: But I never really fought back because I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before— no, long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child. But it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, with the memories in my brain. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system and alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite irregularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long. And they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that, you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just hundreds of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got up there until I left. I just found that my memory's all gone. We're good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, \"Back in the day,\" and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base, and there was obviously a few people that I go on with in there.
[A 30:38]: Yeah.
[B 30:39]: St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up, or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it, thank you.
[A 32:02]: Did anyone witness this happening to you or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on, other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is, not every staff was like that, there was, this is only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember it. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchid Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah. I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit I was in, the yellow unit, were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000, you then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, okay.
[B 38:58]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Um, okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:24]: I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's parts of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just assholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining was really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right.
[A 48:12]: No.
[B 48:13]: They called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I can't remember what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into like where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine we would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same, and when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something or you're— my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:41]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out. That's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether we're 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the open unit and we would steal cars and stuff like that, or we were trying— as I say, when I got out to a home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be— maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be 2 staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean? But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean? But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it was, it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, it was, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Regios. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:18]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about— see, there's going to be bits of your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I started— I had a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of going a bit more— no, that I've done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about, um, Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten sometimes. It was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a doon, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a wholehead house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:45]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:54]: Okay. And when you did, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yes, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely. Being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths. I got on really well with a teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you. Yeah.
[A 75:34]: Okay, did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you didn't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use? I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks, yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah, what about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares of it. I would always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares of it, yeah. And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay. Has your experience in care— obviously, I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you, in a short sentence, describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied. Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: Um, I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that. I've never—
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have, I have been, and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe been in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, aye. And it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back in your older years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I'd been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my— yeah, my living circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: But then this is now and you can't change that, just try and move on. That's the Liverpool mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more— people, there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
[A 93:03]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:44]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I mean, I remember that. That's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St. Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh, really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbank, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbank from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my way.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:05]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:12]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France he was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care? Just like, just before going into care, you said you lived in England. Was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in— I came from— I was actually on the run in the streets of London, and I was— they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care, firstly down south, and then I'd been put in a residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. Me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just out. He was just out. A nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know.
[A 09:46]: I wasn't perfect, but who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was just a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Secure, you know, or whatever, to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would guesstimate maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:15]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was forced appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking anything, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go over time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty? Or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. What about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something.
[A 19:30]: But I never really fought back because I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before— no, long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child. But it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, with the memories in my brain. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system and alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite irregularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long. And they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that, you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just hundreds of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got up there until I left. I just found that my memory's all gone. We're good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, \"Back in the day,\" and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base, and there was obviously a few people that I go on with in there.
[A 30:38]: Yeah.
[B 30:39]: St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up, or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it, thank you.
[A 32:02]: Did anyone witness this happening to you or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on, other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is, not every staff was like that, there was, this is only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember it. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchid Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah. I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit I was in, the yellow unit, were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000, you then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, okay.
[B 38:58]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Um, okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:24]: I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's parts of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just assholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining was really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right.
[A 48:12]: No.
[B 48:13]: They called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I can't remember what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into like where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine we would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same, and when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something or you're— my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:41]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out. That's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether we're 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the open unit and we would steal cars and stuff like that, or we were trying— as I say, when I got out to a home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be— maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be 2 staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean? But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean? But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it was, it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, it was, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Regios. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:18]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about— see, there's going to be bits of your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I started— I had a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of going a bit more— no, that I've done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about, um, Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten sometimes. It was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a doon, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a wholehead house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:45]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:54]: Okay. And when you did, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yes, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely. Being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths. I got on really well with a teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you. Yeah.
[A 75:34]: Okay, did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you didn't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use? I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks, yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah, what about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares of it. I would always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares of it, yeah. And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay. Has your experience in care— obviously, I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you, in a short sentence, describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied. Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: Um, I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that. I've never—
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have, I have been, and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe been in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, aye. And it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back in your older years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I'd been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my— yeah, my living circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: But then this is now and you can't change that, just try and move on. That's the Liverpool mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more— people, there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
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[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#40 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#42 {main}
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[2026-08-20 16:25:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FWD940Y99RSGTK93323CPN"} 
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[2026-08-20 16:25:36] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4442 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 16:25:36] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4442 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 16:25:37] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4442. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 16:25:37] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: recording 4442 marked 'initial' by agent disposition; skipping classifier.  
[2026-08-20 16:25:49] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4440 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 16:25:49] production.ERROR: SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 (Connection: mysql, Host: 127.0.0.1, Port: 3306, Database: fintrixorcouk_ha, SQL: update `synapse_transcripts` set `status` = completed, `raw_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:44]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I mean, I remember that. That's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St. Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh, really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbank, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbank from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my way.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:05]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:12]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France he was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care? Just like, just before going into care, you said you lived in England. Was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in— I came from— I was actually on the run in the streets of London, and I was— they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care, firstly down south, and then I'd been put in a residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. Me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just out. He was just out. A nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know.
[A 09:46]: I wasn't perfect, but who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was just a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Secure, you know, or whatever, to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would guesstimate maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:15]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was forced appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking anything, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go over time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty? Or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. What about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something.
[A 19:30]: But I never really fought back because I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before— no, long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child. But it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, with the memories in my brain. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system and alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite irregularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long. And they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that, you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just hundreds of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got up there until I left. I just found that my memory's all gone. We're good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, "Back in the day," and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base, and there was obviously a few people that I go on with in there.
[A 30:38]: Yeah.
[B 30:39]: St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up, or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it, thank you.
[A 32:02]: Did anyone witness this happening to you or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on, other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is, not every staff was like that, there was, this is only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember it. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchid Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah. I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit I was in, the yellow unit, were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000, you then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, okay.
[B 38:58]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Um, okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:24]: I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's parts of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just assholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining was really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right.
[A 48:12]: No.
[B 48:13]: They called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I can't remember what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into like where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine we would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same, and when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something or you're— my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:41]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out. That's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether we're 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the open unit and we would steal cars and stuff like that, or we were trying— as I say, when I got out to a home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be— maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be 2 staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean? But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean? But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it was, it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, it was, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Regios. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:18]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about— see, there's going to be bits of your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I started— I had a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of going a bit more— no, that I've done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about, um, Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten sometimes. It was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a doon, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a wholehead house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:45]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:54]: Okay. And when you did, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yes, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely. Being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths. I got on really well with a teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you. Yeah.
[A 75:34]: Okay, did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you didn't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use? I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks, yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah, what about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares of it. I would always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares of it, yeah. And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay. Has your experience in care— obviously, I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you, in a short sentence, describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied. Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: Um, I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that. I've never—
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have, I have been, and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe been in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, aye. And it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back in your older years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I'd been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my— yeah, my living circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: But then this is now and you can't change that, just try and move on. That's the Liverpool mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more— people, there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
[A 93:03]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:44]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I mean, I remember that. That's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St. Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh, really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbank, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbank from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my way.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:05]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:12]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France he was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care? Just like, just before going into care, you said you lived in England. Was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in— I came from— I was actually on the run in the streets of London, and I was— they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care, firstly down south, and then I'd been put in a residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. Me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just out. He was just out. A nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know.
[A 09:46]: I wasn't perfect, but who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was just a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Secure, you know, or whatever, to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would guesstimate maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:15]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was forced appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking anything, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go over time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty? Or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. What about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something.
[A 19:30]: But I never really fought back because I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before— no, long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child. But it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, with the memories in my brain. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system and alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite irregularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long. And they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that, you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just hundreds of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got up there until I left. I just found that my memory's all gone. We're good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, "Back in the day," and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base, and there was obviously a few people that I go on with in there.
[A 30:38]: Yeah.
[B 30:39]: St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up, or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it, thank you.
[A 32:02]: Did anyone witness this happening to you or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on, other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is, not every staff was like that, there was, this is only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember it. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchid Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah. I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit I was in, the yellow unit, were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000, you then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, okay.
[B 38:58]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Um, okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:24]: I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's parts of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just assholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining was really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right.
[A 48:12]: No.
[B 48:13]: They called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I can't remember what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into like where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine we would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same, and when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something or you're— my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:41]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out. That's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether we're 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the open unit and we would steal cars and stuff like that, or we were trying— as I say, when I got out to a home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be— maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be 2 staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean? But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean? But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it was, it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, it was, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Regios. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:18]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about— see, there's going to be bits of your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I started— I had a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of going a bit more— no, that I've done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about, um, Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten sometimes. It was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a doon, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a wholehead house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:45]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:54]: Okay. And when you did, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yes, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely. Being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths. I got on really well with a teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you. Yeah.
[A 75:34]: Okay, did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you didn't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use? I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks, yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah, what about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares of it. I would always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares of it, yeah. And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay. Has your experience in care— obviously, I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you, in a short sentence, describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied. Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: Um, I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that. I've never—
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have, I have been, and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe been in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, aye. And it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back in your older years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I'd been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my— yeah, my living circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: But then this is now and you can't change that, just try and move on. That's the Liverpool mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more— people, there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
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Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:44]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I mean, I remember that. That's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St. Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh, really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbank, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbank from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my way.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:05]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:12]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France he was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care? Just like, just before going into care, you said you lived in England. Was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in— I came from— I was actually on the run in the streets of London, and I was— they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care, firstly down south, and then I'd been put in a residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. Me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just out. He was just out. A nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know.
[A 09:46]: I wasn't perfect, but who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was just a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Secure, you know, or whatever, to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would guesstimate maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:15]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was forced appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking anything, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go over time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty? Or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. What about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something.
[A 19:30]: But I never really fought back because I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before— no, long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child. But it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, with the memories in my brain. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system and alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite irregularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long. And they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that, you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just hundreds of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got up there until I left. I just found that my memory's all gone. We're good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, \"Back in the day,\" and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base, and there was obviously a few people that I go on with in there.
[A 30:38]: Yeah.
[B 30:39]: St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up, or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it, thank you.
[A 32:02]: Did anyone witness this happening to you or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on, other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is, not every staff was like that, there was, this is only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember it. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchid Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah. I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit I was in, the yellow unit, were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000, you then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, okay.
[B 38:58]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Um, okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:24]: I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's parts of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just assholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining was really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right.
[A 48:12]: No.
[B 48:13]: They called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I can't remember what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into like where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine we would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same, and when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something or you're— my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:41]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out. That's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether we're 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the open unit and we would steal cars and stuff like that, or we were trying— as I say, when I got out to a home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be— maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be 2 staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean? But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean? But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it was, it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, it was, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Regios. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:18]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about— see, there's going to be bits of your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I started— I had a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of going a bit more— no, that I've done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about, um, Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten sometimes. It was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a doon, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a wholehead house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:45]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:54]: Okay. And when you did, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yes, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely. Being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths. I got on really well with a teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you. Yeah.
[A 75:34]: Okay, did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you didn't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use? I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks, yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah, what about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares of it. I would always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares of it, yeah. And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay. Has your experience in care— obviously, I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you, in a short sentence, describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied. Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: Um, I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that. I've never—
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have, I have been, and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe been in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, aye. And it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back in your older years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I'd been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my— yeah, my living circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: But then this is now and you can't change that, just try and move on. That's the Liverpool mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more— people, there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
[A 93:03]: Bye., `formatted_transcript` = [A 00:02]: Hello? Hi there, is it possible to speak to Mr Thompson?
[B 00:05]: Yes, speaking.
[A 00:06]: Hi Mr Thompson, it's Leah calling from MMA Legal with regards to your Scottish redress application.
[B 00:11]: Yeah, how you doing?
[A 00:12]: I'm good, thank you. How are you?
[B 00:14]: Yeah, not too bad.
[A 00:15]: Yeah, is now still a good time to conduct your interview?
[B 00:17]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've just done work.
[A 00:19]: Amazing. So what I'm going to do before we start is I'm just going to let you know that the call is recorded for training and monitoring purposes. And for data protection, can you confirm for me your date of birth and your postcode, please?
[B 00:31]: Yeah, that's 8th of the 6th, 1984. My postcode is G45 9DS.
[A 00:37]: Amazing, thank you very much. So as I said before, my name's Leah and I'm going to be the one conducting your witness statement with you today. Before we do get into everything, I just want to let you know that you are in complete control of this witness statement. That means you can take a break, skip a question, ask me to reword anything at any given point. You just say the word and we can pause. Obviously, some questions might be upsetting for you because they concern your time and care and the impact it's had. So if you do obviously need a break or you want to just take 5 minutes, we could— we're not in any rush.
[B 01:13]: Yeah, no, it's doable.
[A 01:15]: Okay, I'm just going to ask a couple of questions before I go through your chronology of care. So, have you previously made any civil claim, criminal injuries claim, redress application, complaint, police report, inquiry statement, or claim to another scheme about any abuse?
[B 01:34]: No.
[A 01:35]: Okay. And have you ever received any payment, apology, settlement, or decision?
[B 01:41]: No.
[A 01:41]: Perfect. So, as I said, I have created a bit of a chronology of care, so I'm just going to go with that through I'm going to go through that with yourself, cheque that I'm not missing anything. Yeah, so I've got that the first care institute was— and you'll have to excuse my pronunciation— I've got Springboig.
[B 02:01]: Yeah, yeah, that was my first up here in Scotland. Yeah, but I was also— my care setting started down south, but where I spoke to somebody else before and they said it was kind of too different. You couldn't cross England over to Scotland, it would need to be another claim kind of thing after.
[A 02:17]: Yeah, we are hoping to eventually pull through the Church of England as well, so we can absolutely do that for you as well. It's just this one has to be—
[B 02:26]: Yeah, that was right, it was St John's Residential School in Springbank.
[A 02:30]: Yeah, I've then got Oakbank School in Aberdeen.
[B 02:35]: Hey, I was there briefly, I forgot about that.
[A 02:37]: I think that was from the records that we've received, it looks like it was just a one less than a month emergency placement.
[B 02:44]: Yeah, I forgot all about that. That's a fair— I mean, I remember that. That's mad.
[A 02:49]: Bless you. I've got St. Mary's, Kenmuir, and Bishop Briggs.
[B 02:54]: That's where I spent most of the time, yeah.
[A 02:56]: Yes, it looks like you spent about just over a year in there.
[B 03:00]: And I think I was a wee bit longer in the open unit as well.
[A 03:03]: Oh, really?
[B 03:04]: Yeah, yeah.
[A 03:05]: Okay. And then I've got Hillhead House.
[B 03:08]: Yes, that was kind of the hospital that I was released to when I was kind of 16.
[A 03:13]: Yes. So are they the only care settings in Scotland that you were in?
[B 03:17]: Yes.
[A 03:17]: Amazing. So now that we've cleared that up, are you comfortable and happy to continue with your statement today?
[B 03:24]: Yes, sir.
[A 03:26]: Do you need anyone with you or any other adjustments? No, no, no. And do you understand the purpose of the statement?
[B 03:34]: I do, yeah.
[A 03:35]: And do you agree that we can use this statement for your redress application and any of the supporting evidence we've received from your subject access request? Yeah. Amazing. Okay, so I'm now going to start with asking you a little bit about your personal background and, you know, your entry into care. I like to kind of conduct these as a bit of a question and answer. I think sometimes it helps people remember things more. Yeah. I'm going to do that for the time being, but if that doesn't work for you, you just let me know and we can change that, okay?
[B 04:04]: No problem.
[A 04:05]: Amazing. So where did you grow up and who did you live with before care?
[B 04:10]: So I was with my mother and stepfather. The way my kind of life went is I was in Scotland until I was 5. I was actually in Greece the first couple of years. My real father's Greek. Okay. And then, um, we lived in Scotland for a couple of years, and my mother met my stepfather, who was English, when we moved down to England. Not obviously 100% sure of the dates of moving down, but you'll be pretty much bang on with the dates. I mean, moving back up because I came from Care Down in London through into Springbank, St John.
[A 04:44]: I can see from here you were in Springbank from the 14th of August 1998.
[B 04:51]: Yes, that should have been when I came back up to Glasgow then.
[A 04:53]: Yeah, okay. Um, and then, so you moved to England after you— if I do go quiet, it's just me typing up notes.
[B 05:00]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 05:02]: Moved to England after your mum met your stepfather?
[B 05:05]: I would say around '89, '90, maybe something like that.
[A 05:13]: Okay.
[B 05:15]: And I lived there for a while, and that's where really kind of stuff kind of started to go wrong for me and get going into care and stuff like that, social work involved in my way.
[A 05:24]: Yeah, okay. Can I just grab the name of your stepfather?
[B 05:28]: Yeah, his name is Ian Thompson.
[A 05:30]: Ian Thompson. And your real father's name, if possible?
[B 05:37]: It's Dimitri Savakis. I think I've got it.
[A 05:48]: Should we see? S-E-V?
[B 05:50]: No, no, it's S-E-V. It might see— it's my accent, it'll be my accent, don't worry. A for Alpha, V-A-T-I-S.
[A 06:01]: Right, got it. I thought I smashed that there, you know.
[B 06:05]: Oh, you were close.
[A 06:06]: Um, and was he involved in any of your life, or just when you were the first couple years?
[B 06:12]: He was— I don't remember the first couple of years, obviously, but I briefly met him. Uh, he was found through the social work department, my tail end of St. Mary's, and I went to visit him in France he was living in at the time, but it was a couple of years and it really worked out.
[A 06:27]: Okay, no problem. And where did you live before care? Just like, just before going into care, you said you lived in England. Was that in London?
[B 06:36]: Well, I was in— I came from— I was actually on the run in the streets of London, and I was— they were struggling to get a hold of me. My mother and stepfather had moved back up to Scotland, but I was on the run kind of thing because I'd already been put into foster care, firstly down south, and then I'd been put in a residential and secure unit just in Crystal Palace called Orchard Lodge. So I think it was either from Orchard Lodge or I was on the run and I didn't have anywhere and I was caught and brought back up.
[A 07:06]: Okay, let me just make notes of that. So can't remember if on the run—
[B 07:14]: yeah, it was either that or a place called Orchard Lodge in Crystal Palace. As I say, it was the best part of 30 years ago.
[A 07:21]: Yeah, absolutely. You're not going to remember everything, but what you can remember is good. So we can't quite remember if it was either on the run or— and was it Oxford Lodge, did you say?
[B 07:32]: No, Orchard was in there.
[A 07:33]: Orchard?
[B 07:34]: Yeah.
[A 07:34]: Okay.
[B 07:36]: And it was a place in Crystal Palace. I don't actually know if it's still there or not, but it was a— I had an open unit, kind of like St Mary's. It was like an open unit and a secure unit.
[A 07:45]: Which one were you in?
[B 07:48]: I vaguely think the residential, they're outside, but I don't think I was in the secure unit.
[A 07:53]: Okay, so you think maybe they're like an open residential?
[B 07:56]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[A 07:57]: Okay, I'm gonna note that down. And can you remember at all the day that you were taken into care in Scotland?
[B 08:04]: It was— I was brought from England to Scotland and took to St John's. I'd been caught by the police on the run again, and that's what was happening. And social work was coming to get me, and I would just kind of run away to them kind of thing again. So, um, eventually I was just brought up with the police, I think.
[A 08:22]: Okay.
[B 08:23]: Because obviously my mother and father had moved back up to Scotland and they'd ordered— the social worker had already organised a place for me in St. John's, I think. I just didn't want to go. And eventually I got brought up. I can't remember how, but it was just— it was quick. I got caught. I remember I got caught and pretty much brought up overnight, so to speak.
[A 08:41]: Yeah. So What was your home life like before care? So it sounds silly, but did you live in a house? Did you live in a flat?
[B 08:49]: I lived in a house, but my mother was an alcoholic. Me and all my brothers were in care.
[A 08:55]: I'll ask about that in just one second, because I do need to know about siblings. So I've got that your mother was an alcoholic. What about her— your stepfather? How did you get along with him?
[B 09:05]: Ah, he was just out. He was just out. A nice guy, to be fair. It was me or my mum that was a drinker. He was— I still talk to my stepfather, obviously my brothers love him, you know, and he's like, yeah, he was a kind guy, maybe a bit too soft was his problem.
[A 09:23]: Bless you. So your mother was an alcoholic?
[B 09:25]: Yeah.
[A 09:25]: Is this what led to going into care?
[B 09:28]: I think it was a bit of both. I don't know if I was a problem child, but it probably all stemmed from my mother's alcohol. Yeah, but would obviously take some blame for myself, but I obviously didn't just want to be in the household. I wouldn't be running away for no reason.
[A 09:41]: You shouldn't take blame for yourself. You're only a child at the end of the day.
[B 09:45]: Yeah, I know.
[A 09:46]: I wasn't perfect, but who is?
[B 09:48]: No, of course. You'll be able to see what I was like actually from my social work reports.
[A 09:54]: I think I can. And can you— I know it sounds daft, but were you told why you were going into care when you first went in?
[B 10:04]: I think it was just a build-up of me running away, my mother obviously being an alcoholic.
[A 10:11]: But you were never explicitly told, this is why you're going into care?
[B 10:15]: If I was, I don't remember. If I was, I didn't remember.
[A 10:19]: Okay.
[B 10:20]: But I would, going back and with my memory thing, I think it was just a bit of both. I was obviously running away from home because I didn't want to be there. There was police getting involved and stuff like that. My mother was an alcoholic, so the house wasn't in the best— my mother's still an alcoholic, she's always been a rowdy, if you know what I mean. And she caused a lot of problems, so social work ended up involved. And I think it was just a bus thing, it was like a respite, it started as respite, and then it was just a gradual thing that moved to me.
[A 10:48]: Yeah, and when you say that the house wasn't the best, in what terms?
[B 10:52]: It was just my mum being drunk all the time, just causing fucking absolute chaos all the time. I used to get leathered, obviously, as kids, so I used to get whipped with a spoon, you know what I mean? But as all kids did, it's not something that I look back on and think it was anything, you know what I mean? It was just different era back then, you know what I mean?
[A 11:09]: Yeah, yeah.
[B 11:10]: But, um, I was just more the alcohol, you know what? Yeah, alcohol in a household can do. My father wasn't a drinker, but my uncle, um, was staying in London at the time. He was an alcoholic as well. My grandmother was an alcoholic, so I came from alcoholic background, you know what I mean?
[A 11:30]: Yeah. Um, yes, you mentioned your brothers. Um, how many siblings do you have?
[B 11:36]: I had 4. One just passed away a couple of years ago, but I had 4.
[A 11:41]: I'm sorry. Yeah, were they all brothers?
[B 11:46]: Yes, yes, all brothers.
[A 11:47]: And are you like the youngest, oldest?
[B 11:49]: No, I'm the oldest, and there's no 2 youngest, 2 younger, but there was Okay, and were you all separated when you went into care? I was, between me and the second down, there was 10 years before, so I'd been in the care system beforehand, and then my mother had obviously had kids 9, 10 years later, and when they got kind of my age, they kind of went down the same road as me, and social workers involved in their life, and they were in secure units and residential care.
[A 12:17]: Were you ever in the same unit?
[B 12:19]: No, but my brother James was in St. Mary's with 10 years after me, obviously, because he was 10 years behind me. So he was in St. Mary's. St. Mary's got knocked down and rebuilt, and he was in the new one.
[A 12:33]: So never in care together?
[B 12:35]: But no, no, my other brothers might have been together because they were obviously came from the same house. When I was, when I was 13, they were only in their young years, 1 and 2, you know what I mean? So I would be coming out from St. Mary's Secure, you know, or whatever, to go for home visits maybe every now and then, and that's the only time I would see them. And then once they were going through the care system, I was in my early 20s, you know what I mean? I'd left the care system then.
[A 12:57]: Yeah, so they might have been, but you weren't in care with any of your siblings? That's absolutely fine. How old were you when you first entered into the care system?
[B 13:07]: I would guesstimate maybe 10 or 11, something like that, maybe 11. I would say between 10 and 12 to give it a broader thing.
[A 13:15]: I can't remember. That's okay, we'll just need an approximation is all.
[B 13:19]: It was early in my teens, 10, 11, 12, something like that.
[A 13:24]: And can you remember how old you were at the time you were taken into Springbank for St John's?
[B 13:30]: I would guess, let me have a think, 13, 14 maybe.
[A 13:33]: Yeah, 14 is what records show for us.
[B 13:36]: 14, yeah, something like that.
[A 13:38]: Okay. And can you remember how you felt the first time you went into care?
[B 13:47]: Scared, obviously. Well, at first, to be fair, it was forced appearance, which is a bit different. When I came back up to Scotland, it was different. I'd moved from Scotland to England and I'd picked up an English accent, so then I came back up to Scotland and that was obviously one of the driving factors for all the carry-on I had and stuff like that. I got a pretty stinking— Cold English was my nickname and stuff like that, so I had to kick that accent pretty quickly. I'll go back to my normal accent, my born accent.
[A 14:15]: I know, well, I've moved for uni, so now my accent's really soft compared to what it used to be. Yeah. And I go home and everyone goes, oh, you sound, you know, you sound really Scouse. And then I'm here and everyone's like, no, you sound really Geordie. And it's like, I can't, I can't please anyone. Is there anything important about your childhood health or any learning needs or vulnerabilities that should be recorded?
[B 14:40]: I'm not lacking anything, Cosmo.
[A 14:42]: Okay, no problem.
[B 14:43]: Just the alcohol in the household and stuff like that.
[A 14:45]: Yeah, I've got that, don't worry. So what I'm going to do now is I'm going to ask you about all of your Scottish care settings one at a time so I can really make sure I've got a chronological focus of each one. Yes. So I'm going to start with Springbank, which was St John's Residential School. Yes. I have that you were there from the 14th of August 1998, and it looks like you were there for about 7 months.
[B 15:11]: Yep.
[A 15:12]: So you're about 14 years old, and this was a residential school?
[B 15:15]: Yes.
[A 15:16]: Okay, perfect. So did you have your own room in St. John's?
[B 15:21]: Yes, yes, from what I remember, there was 3 units, and I was in— I can't remember the name of the unit, to be fair, but I was in the bottom unit, and yeah, we had our own rooms, and it was like communal living area and a pool, games room and stuff like that.
[A 15:36]: Yeah, games room, nice. And what about the showering facilities, were they shared?
[B 15:43]: I can't remember, to be fair. Something similar, maybe had a cubicle that maybe half the room, half the one side of the stairs, maybe used, because we definitely didn't have them in our rooms at that point, no.
[A 15:57]: No, okay, no problem. So I'm just going to shared facilities, if I can spell properly. Okay, so was there any routine in this institute? So what I mean by that is, was there a dedicated daily routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 16:20]: Well, we had— there was obviously our school, so you've got Supposed to go to school every day, you had classes set out and stuff like that.
[A 16:29]: How many people were in a classroom? Just an estimate?
[B 16:37]: Between 5 and 10, maybe. It wasn't big classes, so obviously there was a small number of people.
[A 16:43]: Okay, and what about the food there? Was the food okay? Was there much choice?
[B 16:51]: I don't remember. I don't know.
[A 16:53]: That's okay.
[B 16:54]: It stings, the food and that, really, on the things I remember, if that came to be fair, you know what I mean?
[A 17:00]: Yeah, no, don't worry, I just have to ask them just to make sure.
[B 17:03]: I get it, I get it. Yeah.
[A 17:05]: Um, what about, um, clothing-wise? So we— can you remember if you were given fresh clothing?
[B 17:12]: Anything? That wasn't done by the places, that was done by your local social work department, so you would have been given clothes. You would apply for clothing grants and stuff like that.
[A 17:22]: And were you given one while you were in St John's?
[B 17:25]: I would have, I imagine I would have bought one, yeah, when I came up to Scotland. Yeah, I'd imagine I would have bought one.
[A 17:31]: Okay. And what about hygiene-wise? Were you given toiletries, toothbrush, shower gel?
[B 17:39]: I think so, yeah. I don't remember thinking that I didn't have anything like that back then, no. I'd imagine I had washing facilities, yeah.
[A 17:47]: Yeah, okay. But it's not— you can't fully remember?
[B 17:53]: No, I don't remember the reasons.
[A 17:55]: Okay. And did you maintain contact with your family while you were in here?
[B 18:02]: It was on and off, as I say. I would maybe go over time to time, but I would break down with my mum quite a lot.
[A 18:11]: That's okay. And I know it sounds silly, but can you remember if the unit was clean? Was it, you know, was it clean or dirty? Or—
[B 18:22]: I can't remember, to be honest. I don't remember. I don't— I've always been clean myself, so any of my places would have been clean anyway. But I don't remember it being terribly dirty or something or anything like that, you know what I mean?
[A 18:36]: Yeah, okay. And what about the staff? How did the staff treat you? Like, what did they treat you like?
[B 18:43]: I got it pretty bad, obviously, because I was, you know, I mean, it was, it was a lot. It was banter. There was ones that were worse than others and stuff like that, but I did get it pretty bad because I was English, obviously, you know.
[A 18:53]: Okay.
[B 18:58]: It would be done in front of other people, you know, I mean, other residents that were supposed to be there, you know what I mean?
[A 19:05]: Yeah, absolutely. I'll get right into that. I just want to take some other bits first. What about the other children? How did they generally treat you?
[B 19:16]: I got it pretty bad off them as well. I remember getting beat up quite a lot, you know what I mean, just because I was English and I would maybe say something back. I was scared then, but I thought I had to say something.
[A 19:30]: But I never really fought back because I thought I was always outnumbered, you know what I mean?
[B 19:34]: I mean.
[A 19:34]: Yeah, and were there any rules here? Any, you know, make your beds, do this, do that? Were there any particular rules that you can really remember?
[B 19:43]: If there was, it would have been something I would have done anyway. As I say, the one thing I got from my mother, she was a clean freak and she had a bit of OCD, so I'm kind of like that, so I would have done that myself anyway. But I think St John's was pretty— you had to do things like that, and because it came, I'm sure, before— no, long before I came, or years, tens of years before. It used to be monks that had it, and it used to be pretty much like that. And they did still keep a few of the things. It wasn't as military as it used to be, obviously, but there was a few things that you had to— the way you had to walk or go to places. I vaguely remember things like that, but it's just vague memories, you know what I mean?
[A 20:20]: Yeah, yeah. Okay. Um, and can you remember any of the punishments that was set for breaking any rules?
[B 20:33]: You would just get beat up. They had a thing called— you would get restrained when things went on, and that's when you would really get— that's when the punishment would be dealt to you for staff, you know what I mean? You would get restrained, and that's when they would deal with it.
[A 20:45]: Yeah, I got that.
[B 20:48]: If there had been an altercation in a classroom, you would get brought back down to your unit. They would entice you into getting into an argument, or you would wait till you got irate, and then they would pin you to the floor, and your arms would be up your back, your leg crossed. I remember copious amounts of times that I'm pushing that much because they're pushing against me, the blood vessels busting in my face, and it looked horrendous after it, you know what I mean? And that's something that went on into the next place, which we'll obviously go on as well. But the restraining thing was pretty bad back then.
[A 21:22]: I've heard a few mention it. Yeah, it seems to be like a recurring thing.
[B 21:26]: Yeah, that's what you would get if somebody don't like you. That's what they would Yeah, okay.
[A 21:33]: So did anything happen that as an adult you now look back and consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful? Now that includes sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, and neglect.
[B 21:47]: Yes, well, there was a night shift staff that came on, an older man, can't remember his name. Something tells me maybe Tom, I could be wrong. There was an older man, and this was a man that I could hear things before things started to happen to me. But he would come in and try and talk to you at the bottom of the bed, and he would try and put me hand under the covers and put his hand up. I would have my boxers on, up your leg, and I would just pull away, pull away, pull away. And luckily it never really went much further with me apart from touching me. I heard other things. I don't know exactly what was going on, but I heard other things. But I only ever got pups. I don't know why, I don't know, but that's— and the abuse would just be mental abuse, maybe just because I was English, the way they used to speak to me. Fucking— I'd get called, as I say, my nickname when I went in there was English, me Davy English.
[A 22:40]: Okay, so I know you've just mentioned emotional abuse. Scottish Redress see emotional abuse in the form of threats, humiliation, blame, name-calling, isolation, different treatment being made to feel powerless or unwanted, or being forced to witness the abuse or humiliation of others. Would you say that you identify with being emotionally abused in St. John's?
[B 23:09]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 23:10]: Okay, okay, I just wanted to clarify that.
[B 23:16]: A few of the points, I would say they apply to my situation, most certainly.
[A 23:21]: Yeah, so I've got the night shift man and I've got that the emotional abuse was literally because it stemmed from you having an English accent and being English.
[B 23:37]: It wasn't just that. I wouldn't say it was just that. I wasn't a great child, as you'll probably be able to read, you know what I mean?
[A 23:43]: Nobody's a great child though, are they?
[B 23:45]: I am 100%, 100%, and that's the reason I was in the kind of places, you know what I mean, because I was a hard-to-deal-with child. But it was the way that they would deal with things. And they would— it was as if they would try and say things to get a rise with you so as they could then restrain you and do whatever they want to you. Or they could publicly fucking just ridicule you for being English and then make you have to say something because you feel that small, you know what I mean? And then they could restrain you after it, and then you would get put to your room, or other people would be going on the outings and you would get left in.
[A 24:20]: So when you were restrained, how many times would you say that this happened? Would you say it was a regular occurrence, a daily occurrence, weekly?
[B 24:28]: I can remember it happening a lot. I don't know if it was daily or weekly. I would guess it was at least happening weekly, yeah, with the memories in my brain. It was more— that happened more so in St. Mary's. That's how they dealt with things because it was a secure unit. They had a pinpoint system and alarm system and stuff like that, and That's it. But definitely in St. John's, it was— you would definitely get restrained, 100%, yeah, quite irregularly.
[A 24:53]: What would happen when you were restrained? So can you give me kind of a bit of a— not necessarily in detail, in depth, but I need just a brief explanation of kind of being between 3 to 6 people.
[B 25:06]: You would have one on each arm, between 1 and 2 on legs, one holding your head. Maybe one with a knee on you somewhere, and your arms would be getting absolutely folded up your back, the same with your legs. Your wrists would be— you wouldn't be able to move your wrists once they stopped doing what they were doing to you, you know what I mean? They would be limp from just being bent for that long. And they had a tactic of how they would carry you to your room after that and then lock you. And it involved your head being pushed down with your arms, and you would— it's hard to explain.
[A 25:37]: You got carried into your room, did you say?
[B 25:40]: Effectively, yeah. Sometimes dragged with just your feet on the floor, but sometimes carried as well. They would just hold on to your leg into your room.
[A 25:47]: Were you locked in your room?
[B 25:49]: It would be, it would lock in your room, yes.
[A 25:50]: And how long for?
[B 25:52]: It would differentiate until they thought that you thought that they'd calmed down enough that you could be let back out. And why, that's that, you need to go through a report kind of thing after that, I'm sure.
[A 26:04]: Would you have marks after this?
[B 26:07]: 100%, yes. As I say, a frequent thing would happen because you would push that much because it was hurting you, the blood vessels would pop in my face, so I would look something like a horror movie with just hundreds of wee red vessel lines all over my face. And as I say, once you were finished, if they let go of you, which sometimes they did, you'd see when you would calm down, you couldn't push yourself up off the floor. Your wrists were that dead for how much they bent your wrists back.
[A 26:31]: From the pressure and how much they've bent them, it was just that you would— it's like a dead leg, isn't it?
[B 26:37]: 100%, and it's like that for 10 to 30 minutes after. You need to move your wrist to try and get it back in. But yeah, and that's where you would get the punches and the kicks and the knees and the rubs and that. You don't see it as— because you've got a staff member holding both sides of your face so you can't move while you're face down on the floor, you know what I mean?
[A 26:56]: So they would punch and kick you?
[B 26:58]: Yeah, you would get it all the time, or a knee in the back, or because somebody's put— you're getting held by your two arms, they would put knees on your back.
[A 27:11]: And you couldn't see who it was?
[B 27:13]: No, no, no. Sometimes, sometimes you could because they didn't always have the number to hold all 4 points until— I, I'm talking about more St. Mary's here. I know we're at St. John's, but I got something— it was a bit different because they had a pinpoint system. It was an alarm system, you know what I mean?
[A 27:30]: Yeah.
[B 27:30]: So they could pull this thing on there the keys and it would give an alarm and the staff would know, they would run, but it would take time sometimes for so many to get there, you know what I mean?
[A 27:40]: Yeah.
[B 27:42]: It was kind of different in St. John's. It was just so many staff on a shift for a unit, you know what I mean?
[A 27:48]: Yeah. And I know you said that it happened a lot, and from your recollection it happened probably on a weekly basis. Did it ever get worse or did it ever change?
[B 28:01]: Towards the end of my time in St. Mary's, it got left because I was on my way out the door, kind of thing. I went to the open unit. The open unit was different in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 28:11]: This is just St. John's? Did it ever—
[B 28:13]: no, it was quite— it was pretty much the same all the whole thing through there, and then obviously I moved on. Okay, my recollection of St. John's is just The same thing, I got up there until I left. I just found that my memory's all gone. We're good, you know what I mean?
[A 28:33]: That's all right.
[B 28:34]: I don't remember any good times at it, to be fair.
[A 28:36]: So yeah, um, so it was the staff who restrained you. Can I ask, were any children that you can particularly remember involved in any of the abuse you received?
[B 28:48]: Yeah, I would get beat up a lot. I couldn't tell you any of the kids' names or anything like that. I can just you can see some faces say, \"Back in the day,\" and stuff like that. But I would get a lot of flak just because of my English accent, obviously.
[A 29:03]: Yes. So what immediate effects did you experience, such as pain or injury, fear, shame, sleeping problems, bedwetting, running away, or behaviour changes?
[B 29:15]: I was fearful every day when I'm at Eve for my first few years in Scotland. I was like that, that's what I was like, what a lot of a lot of slap-flap for being English, and I tried to change my accent back. But what was the other things you said there? Sorry.
[A 29:29]: Um, so pain or injury, fear, shame, sleep problems, bedwetting, or running away.
[B 29:35]: I definitely had sleep problems when there's the stuff that went on, stuff I would be on edge, every noise. I'm still with that to this day. I don't— if somebody opens a door in my house, I wake up, you know what I mean? It's been something that I've I've carried into my later years. I've definitely lived in fear when I was in St John's, yeah, constantly.
[A 29:54]: Okay.
[B 29:56]: Bedwetting, no. The other one, sorry, I'm sorry.
[A 29:59]: No, don't apologise. It is pain or injury.
[B 30:03]: I definitely had pain and injury, yes, with the restraints and the doing that I would take while being restrained, yeah.
[A 30:11]: Yeah, absolutely. I can only imagine. And, um, did you ever try and run away?
[B 30:23]: I thought that was— that's what I always done. You'll be able to see that from my reports. But when I first came to Scotland, obviously it was harder for me. I didn't know anybody. But once I started a friend base, and there was obviously a few people that I go on with in there.
[A 30:38]: Yeah.
[B 30:39]: St. John's place and we would run away together and go and do bad things, you know what I mean?
[A 30:45]: And what would happen when you ran away? When you were caught, what would happen?
[B 30:49]: I would be arrested and I would be brought back to St. John's. The staff would come and pick you up, or you would be took back with the police to St. John's.
[A 30:55]: Okay, okay. Did you ever experience any shame?
[B 31:02]: They made me feel ashamed of being English, yeah, 100%, yeah. And I felt I came to myself that I didn't say or do anything when this old smelly guy was fucking trying to put his hands up my boxers, you know what I mean? I look back now and I just think he was fucking an old man, you should have just fucking battered him, you know what I mean? Yeah. But as I say, I was 13 or 14 at the time, he was the main night shift guy, you're scared especially because you know, the staff run these places, and I wasn't even liked by the kids, let alone the staff.
[A 31:36]: So you're just alone?
[B 31:40]: Yeah, 100%. Yeah, that's the perfect word for my payments and joins.
[A 31:45]: Yeah, yeah. And I can understand why, and it's got to be such a lonely feeling.
[B 31:51]: Yeah, 100%.
[A 31:53]: Yeah, absolutely. I can, I can only picture it. And I'm sorry that you went through that.
[B 31:59]: Oh no, I appreciate it, thank you.
[A 32:02]: Did anyone witness this happening to you or did anyone else experience anything similar? So I'm only asking, you know, were you aware that children saw what was happening?
[B 32:10]: 100%, yes. People knew what was going on, other staff knew what was going on. The way they would do it is, not every staff was like that, there was, this is only a handful of staff, but they would be on the same shifts and then they would know what they were doing, you know what I mean? They'd know the timing of things and stuff like that. There was good staff in there as well, 100%. I've got good memories of some staff in that place, like, weren't all bad. The same as St. Mary's, there was a couple of good staff in there. There would never be any of the things I'm telling you, but again, it's a workplace. Even if they did see the things back then, I don't think there's much they would do or say anyway, you know what I mean?
[A 32:46]: Yeah. Um, did you ever try and tell anyone what was happening?
[B 32:51]: No, I didn't think anybody was listening. Again, I was a problem child, an extreme problem child. I look back and think to myself I must have been a right handful, but I just didn't think anybody would believe me. It was that simple, you know what I mean?
[A 33:06]: Yeah, I can understand. Again, um, and what was different about this placement to any of the others in Scotland? So what was one thing that really sticks out about this placement that you can differentiate it?
[B 33:18]: The sexual abuse when I was in my bed at night.
[A 33:22]: Yeah. Okay, I'm now going to move on to Oakbank. Now, I know this was only a really short emergency placement.
[B 33:31]: Yes.
[A 33:32]: And can you remember much of what happened here?
[B 33:35]: I only remember going there for— between me going from St. John's to secure. I'd forgot all about it. I couldn't even— I would have never remembered that if you hadn't brought that up.
[A 33:49]: Okay, would you believe me if I told you that you were there from the 11th of May to the 1st of April?
[B 33:56]: So how long is that, a month?
[A 33:57]: Just, just under 3 weeks, we'll give or take.
[B 34:01]: It could be right, yeah. I just don't remember it. I don't—
[A 34:04]: you're not gonna remember everywhere.
[B 34:06]: I don't remember my time there. I remember now looking back, I can remember that I did go one from one place to another, but I don't remember. I couldn't tell you what happened there, any of the staff, what the place— what the building looked like.
[A 34:20]: It's completely gone. I'll just block that one out. If anything does come back, just give me a shout and we can go back to it. But this happens. I've had people who were in care from the day they were born and I have to ask them about the first care setting. They're like, well, I don't know.
[B 34:33]: Ah, no, of course, it's your job to ask for every, for every time.
[A 34:36]: Yeah, but if you can't remember, you can't remember.
[B 34:38]: Well, that was— see, until you said that, it was like— when you said it, it came back to me. Well, there was somewhere in between. St. John's had completely broke down, I think. And I was in the process of getting put to secure.
[A 34:51]: Shall I have a look? Would you like me to have a little look and see what I've got?
[B 34:54]: Yeah, if you want.
[A 34:55]: Yeah, okay, let me just have a little look. So yeah, so you were in the London Borough of Greenwich with a foster placement, then you were moved to— so, okay, so I can see here Orchid Lodge. Yeah, that was an assessment centre. So you were planned to be there for 3 months, but the placement broke down and it was due to abscondance. It was due to the running away. Yeah. I can then see Oakbank was an emergency placement under a safety order. Uh, yeah, I can see that there. Um, and then St. Mary's. It looks like you were in Columbo Unit. Uh-huh. Oh right, that was the open one, I think.
[B 35:50]: There, yeah, the secure unit I was in, the yellow unit, were all colours in the, in the secure unit. Yeah, but the, the open unit was Columbo, I think. Yeah, that's the end of my time you're reading about because I was in the secure unit first.
[A 36:04]: Yeah, well, I can actually also see here, so About midway through— no, it was in 2000, you then left St. Mary's to go into planned respite with your father in France.
[B 36:21]: Yep.
[A 36:21]: That was for 2 months, right?
[B 36:23]: Yeah.
[A 36:24]: And then it was Hillhead House.
[B 36:26]: That's when I just met my father for the first or second time. I think it was one of the times that I went over to see him.
[A 36:32]: Yeah.
[B 36:32]: And then I came back to And it was basically like a hostel. It was— there was an office for staff there, but you had your own kind of like bedroom, living room, kitchen kind of area. Yeah, it was basically— I think I was 16 at the time, and it's basically just putting you into the big bad world, I think.
[A 36:52]: Yeah, yeah, okay.
[B 36:55]: And I think the reason that still shows up— obviously I shouldn't have still been under supervision at 16, that should have stopped, but I was Probably. I think my supervision order maybe ran to 17, 18, maybe longer. I'm not sure, I couldn't put a time on it.
[A 37:07]: But I think it looks here about the 5th of September 2000 that you left the care system, right?
[B 37:16]: Okay, well, 27 years ago. Yeah, I'm 42, so let's do the math.
[A 37:22]: Oh God, hang on, I'll get a calculator. This is not my good, my good point. Right, uh, how old did you say you were?
[B 37:43]: I'm 42.
[A 37:44]: 42. And how many years ago was— how many years ago was 2000? Why can't I remember? That was it. It's bad that I didn't remember that. It looks about 16, but you were— when were you born? You were born in June and this was September, so you would have been about 17.
[B 38:02]: Ah, 17.
[A 38:03]: Yeah, okay, cool. Let's crack on. So I'm gonna go through St Mary's.
[B 38:09]: Okay.
[A 38:11]: If, like I said, if you do remember anything about Oakbank, just give me a shout, but it's fine if not. You're not going to remember every placement.
[B 38:17]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 38:18]: So St Mary's, Kenmuir was Bishopbriggs. From the 1st of April 1999, and you were there for about 15 months, right? Um, so what type of care setting was St. Mary's? Did you say it was a secure unit?
[B 38:33]: Yeah, secure, complete lockdown.
[A 38:34]: And you said it was yellow unit?
[B 38:36]: I was in the yellow unit, yeah.
[A 38:38]: Okay, it's good to have these little— it sounds silly, but when I ask, you know, was it a house or a flat, it's to add that level of truthfulness into the statement as well. That makes sense. Yeah, you know, because anyone can say, oh, I was in St. Mary's, but when you start saying, well, actually I was in the secure yellow unit, they're like, okay.
[B 38:58]: Yeah, yellow, blue, and green, the units I was.
[A 39:03]: I've had a green unit from someone. I've never had a blue, but I have had green. Yeah, now I'm trying to think where I've had green from. That's gonna play on my mind now. Um, okay, St. Mary's. And what was it like? Did you have your own bedroom?
[B 39:20]: It was just a locked room, yes, like a cell effectively.
[A 39:24]: It was like a cell effect?
[B 39:26]: It was like a cell effectively, yeah. It was a locked room. It was just like a cell, what you would get in jail effectively, with a locked door. You got locked in at night and went out in the morning and had a bed and a small desk and plastic window. I remember the plastic window. They knocked it out.
[A 39:46]: Um, okay. Did you have your own bathroom?
[B 39:50]: There was a— there must have been a toilet, and there must have been— I don't remember, but there must have been because you were locked in at night.
[A 40:00]: Okay, okay. Um, was it clean? Was it a clean place?
[B 40:10]: And it seems clean enough, yeah.
[A 40:14]: Okay, okay. Was there a specific routine that you were expected to follow?
[B 40:23]: Yep, it was. It was go up in the morning at the same time. It was obviously security unit, so it was very much like a prison, you know what I mean? So you were up at the same time every day. I'm sure it was the same routine for morning, for washing, breakfast and stuff like that. And then you would have your set classes for the day if you were going to school, if you'd been good enough to go to school, if you weren't locked away. And aye, and then it would be finished school, and I'm sure you would get put back to your room for a small time while staff maybe changed over, if my memory tells me correct. And then you would get brought out for dinner, and as I say, each unit would on each night each unit would have the central area. So each unit faced into the central area, which was the common area, and a unit would have the communal area each night. So for a Monday, the yellow unit would have it, the Tuesday the blue, Wednesday the green, and that's what would happen after you had your dinner and stuff like that. And then you would get put off your room at a certain time of night. That was kind of a routine.
[A 41:25]: Okay. God, it sounds like a young offender.
[B 41:31]: That's exactly what it was, yes.
[A 41:32]: Yeah, sounds like it. Do you think that these places were care settings?
[B 41:36]: Ah, no, it was most certainly not. It was 3 gates to get into it, you know what I mean?
[A 41:41]: It was, aye.
[B 41:43]: And they eventually had to upgrade because people were getting out of this one and stuff. It was an old building.
[A 41:48]: Yeah, no, we'll absolutely get into this because I need it for the statement, but I'm also, I think, curious myself. From how it sounds, it's astonishing.
[B 41:58]: It was effectively like a prison, you know what I mean?
[A 42:01]: Yeah, yeah. I've heard a lot of people say it was like a boot camp, it was like a prison there, quite often the way that you get it told to you.
[B 42:08]: Yep, 100%.
[A 42:11]: What about the food here? Can you remember anything about the food?
[B 42:14]: I just remember it was set times. I don't remember if it was good or bad.
[A 42:19]: Can you remember if you ate in a canteen, round a table?
[B 42:24]: I'm not sure how the food process worked out. I remember in the units there was a kitchen and part of being in there— bearing in mind these secure units had murderers and fucking rapists, and I've written on it where there was— I remember there was a lassie and had killed her sister, strangled her with a bathrobe. There was another, she was just— this is the people you were mixing with back then, you know what I mean? I remember her name in this day, Stephanie Zaborska. She was from a place called Greenock or Paisley, one of the two up here, and she strangled her sister to death with the rope that her housecoat was messing with. There was people that had murdered people, you know what I mean? It was effectively— because these kids couldn't go to jail, so they had to go to— this was where they would go and serve their time until they're old enough to go to prison or get out, you know what I mean?
[A 43:10]: Jesus. So the court would put people in here?
[B 43:15]: Yeah, so it was— they would get sentences, yeah. At a young age, obviously they would get tried as an adult but they couldn't go to adult prison. So aye, there was a boy, Joe McGregor, that had stabbed a boy. I don't know if you remember back in the day, Lucashead bottles used to be glass.
[A 43:31]: Yeah.
[B 43:31]: Yeah, well, he stabbed the boy in the neck with one of them. Aye, there was some serious people in it. There was a guy with one arm that had murdered somebody. He was called Wingy.
[A 43:41]: Jesus.
[B 43:42]: Aye, it was, it was That's what it was. But then you've also got people that just ran away. Yeah, I mean, maybe about our problem children, just there because they needed locked up for their own safety. They're called into the social work, you know what I mean?
[A 43:59]: Yeah.
[B 44:00]: Which, ah, St. Mary's was a turning point for me. I learned how to date so much more when I was in St. Mary's. So that's what pumped me into the person I've grown in my teens and until I had my children, you know what I mean?
[A 44:14]: Yeah, okay. Um, I know we can't remember the food. I know you said there was a kitchen in the units. Um, what about clothing-wise? Can you remember if you had a clothing grant here?
[B 44:25]: That would be the exact same in Scotland. It was never the care setting's place to provide stuff for you. Your social work department would always do that for you. Okay, so you would need to speak to your social worker if you needed something. For your room or for anything like that, a radio or anything like that, or clothes box or so. You would need to contact your social worker or ask your key worker in the secure unit to contact your social worker.
[A 44:52]: Okay, and what about hygiene-wise? Were you provided with, you know, if you said there might have been a bathroom in your room, was there toilet roll, toothbrush, toothpaste?
[B 45:01]: Yeah, I don't remember not having any of that. Vaguely I remember maybe in one of these places, I don't know what it is, in St. Mary's what would happen is all your stuff would get pocket. And if you'd been restrained and put into your room and they deemed that you were going to smash up your room, so they would just take everything out your room, you know what I mean? It would just sit outside your door until they thought you'd calm down. You would just be left with your blue mattress and that was that, you know what I mean?
[A 45:26]: Yeah.
[B 45:26]: But I know I don't remember not having access to stuff and stuff like that. Yeah, again, those things I've maybe I think that could well have happened and I just don't remember it because there's other things in my head that I remember. A lot of stuff I try to block out. I've only tried to revisit it when I've spoke to people about that kind of stuff, you know what I mean?
[A 45:52]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I wouldn't— I think it's one of these things where I'd be more shocked if you were like, yeah, and we had this and we had that. I think because your brain automatically blocks out traumatic events anyways.
[B 46:03]: That's what I've done my whole life, my whole life. I've just put things they want away, and I think that's— it's only the way you survive, innit?
[A 46:10]: Yeah, there's a year of my life, my— when I was younger, that I literally can't remember anything about. Yeah, it just happens. It's just a thing, you know, you kind of sit there and you're like, did that happen? It's like these—
[B 46:21]: I got the talk when you mentioned that place in between St John's and St Mary's. I was like, wow, because I vaguely remember getting took to somewhere else before I went to the secure unit, but I forgot that quicker. Nearly 30-year-old memory, you know what I mean? It's just I forgot about it and just came back when you mentioned it.
[A 46:37]: Yeah, and it happens. I've had— I mean, I had one client who didn't even know what age he was in care from, and it's like, oh God, like, I have to tell him, obviously. But it's even the fact of, like, he had no idea how old he was because his brain had just been like, nope, not thinking about that. And it happens.
[B 46:55]: Delete it out of your life. It's the only way you can cope with it sometimes.
[A 46:59]: I have to agree. I think even you know, this is a huge thing, but even smaller things you just tend to block out as well.
[B 47:05]: Yeah, it's a good way of looking at it.
[A 47:07]: I think the brain is a very interesting thing. I'm one of these people who I'm like, I wonder what else my brain could do.
[B 47:14]: Yeah, totally. I have a wee theory there's parts of the brain that people haven't even accessed yet. They can do a lot more, I think. We'll find out soon enough, will ya? I am sure.
[A 47:24]: Oh, I hope so. How did the staff treat you in St Mary's?
[B 47:30]: Again, there was good ones and bad ones. The ones that liked you, again, I remember a couple of right good staff in there that were always good to me, but it would be the same kind of thing. They ran in packs, so you would have certain shifts that would have certain staff members on it that was just assholes and would do anything to just put you in a flare. And that's where the restraining was really pretty bad. That's where I got restrained a lot, was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? Because I started to really rebel against the staff and the way they spoke to me for being English and the other kids and and I just— so I found myself on the floor quite a lot, and they were extremely heavy-handed. And I guess they maybe needed to be a bit more heavy-handed, they're dealing with murderers and stuff like that, but it still wasn't right.
[A 48:12]: No.
[B 48:13]: They called it— it was called TCI, I'm sure they called the method of restraint back then. It was— I can't remember what that stands for, but it was called TCI restraining. And every surrender demand, it was banned. What's that?
[A 48:27]: I'm gonna Google it. You've got me. I'm gonna Google it as well, actually. Therapeutic crisis intervention.
[B 48:36]: Is that what that means?
[A 48:38]: Apparently.
[B 48:39]: All right.
[A 48:40]: Yeah, emergency. I can imagine it's not. No, I wouldn't picture it to be. Um, would you classify this, um, restraining in St Mary's as a form of abuse?
[B 48:53]: 100%. Okay, 1 million percent. It's like, it's one of the worst pains ever. Like, it's not the worst one, I've had a lot of worse things, but it's in the top 10 worst pains I've ever had in my life. The way it's caused, it's dragged out over time. You're held in the floor for so long while they're bending your wrists, and they cross your legs and then push your legs towards your bum. Oh, you know what I mean? So you're, you're literally, you're caught in a trap, and it's agony, and you're You're trying to push to get them off. It's all you can do. You can't just sit there and let them. And because I would push that hard, as I say, the blood vessels would pop in my face. And that's again when the staff didn't like you, that's when they would deal their damage. But again, there were some good ones, but there was some also some right assholes, you know what I mean?
[A 49:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay. And what about the other children? Did they treat you well? Did they not?
[B 49:51]: Again, it was— I'd started to kind of try and lose my accent, but I did have more friends in there, but I still got flack for having a twang. I never really lost my accent until I really left St. Mary's and I was maybe 17, 18, 19. I started to really lose it when I was speaking to more people, obviously, when I was on the outside world. Yeah, I mean, but I got a lot of flack still for being English and Aye, that's basically what it was for.
[A 50:18]: Okay. Did anything besides the physical abuse with restraints, did anything else happen that as an adult you now consider to be abuse, neglect, or harmful in a form of sexual abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse, or neglect?
[B 50:32]: There was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's, no, it was just in St. John's. But the physical abuse would obviously be the straining and The emotional abuse would just be the English stuff that I had. Obviously, I used to get it quite a lot, and the way they done it is they know what they would do, they would do it in front of people, and then after they would go away with the other children and it would carry on, which would then end up in either me getting battered or being in a fight, which would end up me being restrained. So there was a domino effect with what they were doing, you know what I mean? But there was no sexual abuse in St. Mary's. Again, not that I remember of anyway, that's what I thought.
[A 51:14]: Okay, and who was involved in the physical and emotional abuse?
[B 51:19]: It would have been the staff members and the kids.
[A 51:24]: Okay, and can you give me one clear example of what happened, where it happened, and when did it occur? So any, you know, one of them memories that's really stuck with you from that?
[B 51:38]: I couldn't remember that. So this goes back to the very— you can take it to the girl that I just told you about, Stephanie Jaworska, had kicked off and there had been— he'd kicked one of the windows. So the way you got into St. Mary's Secure Unit, there was a door that took you into like where people would leave their stuff if they were going to visit somebody, and then there was two gates and then another door. To get into where the units were, and Stephanie had kicked out one of the windows, and I jumped through the window and stole one of the sets of keys. And I'd got restrained that time, and that was one of the times it really, really, really hurt my ribs. I'd been getting restrained at the time, and I was getting kneed in the ribs, and that was right outside my unit door. I can remember it happening. I can see the unit. I can remember that all, you know what I mean? That was right outside So the way exactly what I'm telling you, she kicked the window out. When you came to my unit, my unit was the first unit on the right-hand side, and then you would go straight up to the school, and then you would turn left into the communal area just across from my unit. And that's where the pool table, the blue unit, and the green unit would be. And then visits would happen in that thing that just came back to me, what we called the pushball. And it was a glass— it was just in front, it was in the middle of the communal area, and that's where you would go for your visits. It was like a room that had a glass window on it, and that's where you'd have your visits. And it was we called it a fishbowl, or the staff called it the fishbowl. But one of the abuse things was definitely— the physical abuse things was definitely that time when I took the keys and I'd started opening doors and they caught me outside our unit and I got restrained there. And that was one of them.
[A 53:12]: And how many staff restrained you? Can you remember at all, or a rough estimate?
[B 53:17]: I would guess at 45. It was— again, it varied the restraints, and you don't get to see every member. Again, somebody's sometimes got your head, so you would only see the top 3, the people that were on your arms and your head. You would never see who was—
[A 53:29]: okay. And when you said you were kneed, where were you kneed?
[B 53:34]: In the ribs. That's a memory I've got because my brother was telling me for weeks after.
[A 53:39]: Yeah. And can you explain any of the injuries you received from this? You know, did you have bruises, cuts, scrapes?
[B 53:49]: Oh, I would constantly have bruises. Yeah, definitely, because restraining, obviously you would be getting flung to the floor initially, and then people would be all over the top of you, you know what I mean, trying to keep you on the floor. You would be trying to get up as you naturally would, you know what I mean. And so you would constantly have bruises, scratches, sore wrists, ribs felt broke at times, or fractured, you know what I mean. Okay, it would be— you know, I ended up in prison in my later years, and the way they restrained and moved you is the exact same way you were moved in prison. The exact same. We've done the exact same methods. The arrests, the way they move you, your neck and your head, is the exact same. The way they strain you on the floor. I've heard them through the grapevine that the restraining methods totally changed for the late '90s, early 2000s. They're not allowed to do it that way anymore. In secure units and daycare settings, obviously, I'd imagine we would have to have changed, you know what I mean?
[A 54:53]: It's just insane that this happened.
[B 54:57]: Like, I know, I look back on it now again, see, until you start speaking to somebody else about it, you don't really be— I'd never really realised the gravity of it, you know. I mean, it was just my life. It was just that sad. It's, you know, you're just— that's the cards you were dealt.
[A 55:14]: And yeah, yeah. And how often did the restraining happen in St Mary's?
[B 55:20]: So again, there's a lot more because I was— again, they were on a shorter fuse there because it was who they were dealing with. It wasn't just people on supervision orders that had been running away and maybe stealing cars or shoplifting, or there was people that had actually serious damage, so their fuses were a lot shorter. The reasoning for restraining somebody or taking somebody or wanting to put them in their room was less than it was in St. John's. That was more in an open place, you know what I mean?
[A 55:49]: Yeah, absolutely.
[B 55:51]: So it happened frequently for me because again, I rebelled massively in St. Mary's, you know what I mean? I tried to get away as much as I could. I didn't want to be there.
[A 56:01]: Yeah.
[B 56:02]: Any opportunity I got, any home visit I got, I would abscond, you know. That's just the way my life got. I would always run away. I just want to be— I'll be on my own.
[A 56:13]: Yeah, okay. Um, did it ever get worse or change?
[B 56:21]: No, it was, as I say, towards the end when I got into the open unit, there was still some instances in the open unit but I started to get a bit older and I realised that I couldn't rebel as much and I would have to try and calm down if I ever wanted to get out of this place, you know what I mean? Yeah. And that's when I started to actually speak to my dad. And I don't know if my visits maybe got a bit more with my mother at that time, but I definitely know getting out to see my father and go to France at that time was a big appeal to me. Camden, I bet that's given an opportunity to me to get away here, you know what I mean?
[A 57:00]: Absolutely. I think just going to France itself would be a massive thing for me.
[B 57:06]: A massive disappointment when I called you up there.
[A 57:10]: I know, I went to Paris and I didn't really love it.
[B 57:13]: I went to Strasbourg and it wasn't that great. It was nice. The highlight for me at that age, I was only 15, 16, I can't even remember, but it was driving on the Autobahn to Strasbourg, kind of Right on the border.
[A 57:26]: I really want to experience that, man.
[B 57:28]: It was great. I was really young, obviously, you know, and I loved cars at that point, so.
[A 57:33]: Yeah. Oh my God, I would love to do that.
[B 57:36]: And you could see Germany from my dad's flat at that point. That's how close it was to the border. Wow. I suppose Strasbourg's pretty close.
[A 57:44]: Might have to go there one time just for the weekend.
[B 57:47]: I imagine there's nice places, though I was dead young, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. Couldn't speak much of the language, and my relationship broke down with my father again because I was probably an asshole, Wayne. And so the thing was, is my dad tried to come back into my life and try to dictate what I was going to do, and I just wasn't having that, except for the life I had, you know what I mean?
[A 58:06]: Yeah.
[B 58:06]: And it broke down, and I speak to him every now and then on Facebook. I think he's back in Greece now, but I don't have no real relationship with him either.
[A 58:16]: And did you experience any immediate effects because of the abuse, so pain or injury?
[B 58:24]: I would have been yelling, my wrists would have been the exact same, and when they'd be getting these fly dugs into your back, your wrists, your legs, you would get it to the face sometimes as well, you know what I mean? It would be mainly the body places where you couldn't really see things and it really hurt. You would probably rather it in the face. That's what I look back and think of. I'd rather they just pat us in the face because when you've got sore ribs or back or legs, it affects everything, you know what I mean?
[A 58:56]: Yeah. Okay, and what about any fear?
[B 59:04]: Obviously, I was just pretty much the same as— yeah, it was pretty much the same as St George's when I got out in the open unit. And I thought, as I say, I started to lose my English accent and I was getting over to France. It got a bit better towards the end in the open unit, but Pretty much through the secure unit, it was pretty much the same. I was always on edge, you know what I mean, because you're always thinking something's going to happen or they're going to say something or you're— my behaviour could sometimes cause the dramas, you know what I mean. And yeah, so you were always on edge.
[A 59:37]: And what about any shame?
[B 59:41]: Um, it would have just been the same again for the I've been English, you know what I mean, and embarrassed by getting fucking held on the flare and pushed that much that your blood vessels are popping in your face, you know what I mean.
[A 59:55]: Yeah, absolutely. Any sleep problems in St. Mary's?
[B 60:01]: Again, that's something I don't remember if I had problems sleeping.
[A 60:07]: If you can't remember, we'll just leave it out. That's no problem. Any bedwetting? No. No, okay. Any— obviously you said you tried to run away a few times and you tried to abscond as much as you could. Um, did you see any behaviour changes in yourself?
[B 60:22]: I definitely got worse when I went to St. Mary's alone. As I say, you're in there with some real criminals at that age, you know what I mean? Whether we're 13, 14, 15, they were doing things I'd never seen before. So I went to— I ended up— that's when I started stealing cars and stuff like that. I would run away with another boy from the open unit and we would steal cars and stuff like that, or we were trying— as I say, when I got out to a home visit to my mother's, I would just run away. You get reported missing. So I definitely got worse.
[A 60:50]: Okay, but it's because of what you— what was around you?
[B 60:53]: Of course. I've never— I don't ever know how to steal a car or how it— there was loads of things I learned. I don't need to ring them up, I suppose, but there was loads of different crimes I learned how to do when I was in St. Mary's, you know what I mean?
[A 61:06]: Yeah, yeah. Obviously, did anyone witness any of the abuse happening or experience something similar?
[B 61:14]: Again, it was— the other kids would be— maybe you get them pulled to the floor, but then once you were getting restrained, people would get— the other kids would get moved away, so it would only be the other staff members that were there at the time.
[A 61:28]: So it's like others would see being pushed to the floor.
[B 61:31]: Aye, look, so the way it would happen is if they deemed that you were being aggressive or you needed to be restrained, it would just be 2 staff members would just rugby tackle you to the floor, and then— but before that, they would pull a pinpoint. So they would have a set of keys to open the doors, and it was a wee black device that if you pull it out, it would set off an alarm and obviously let the staff members know that something was going on and they needed to be there. And then more staff would be on top of you, you know what I mean? You could sometimes have a chance for the first couple of— for the first 10, 15 seconds, you know what I mean?
[A 62:00]: Yeah. Okay, did you ever tell anyone or try to get help for what was happening?
[B 62:09]: I don't remember ever. I probably did speak to somebody about the restraining and stuff like that. I don't remember who, when, or if I did, you know what I mean? But I'd imagine, because it's a massive memory in my head, the restraining, I thought was atrocious. So I probably did speak about it to my social worker or somebody else, you know what I mean? But yeah, I couldn't pinpoint a time or No, that's all right, don't worry.
[A 62:35]: I was going to ask what was different at this placement compared with the others. I have actually put in this box, you know, other children were locked up here for murder, rape, because they couldn't go to prison. I know you said Joe McGregor, because he stabbed someone in the neck with a glass bottle of Lucozade, and Stephanie— did you say she was from Paisley?
[B 62:52]: She was from, I think it was Paisley, really. Stephanie Jaworska was her name, and she'd mobbed her boss, that stuff.
[A 62:59]: And she murdered her sister using a dressing gown robe.
[B 63:02]: Yeah.
[A 63:02]: Is there anything else that you'd like me to add into this box for what was different about St. Mary's?
[B 63:09]: It was just a secure setting, that was that. You were cut off from the world, you know what I mean? It was effectively a prison for kids.
[A 63:17]: Yeah, I like the way that you've said cut off from the world. I think that's very well put for what it was.
[B 63:25]: I've just Googled that. Stephanie Jaworska is a Scottish woman who was convicted in 1998 of the murder of her 18-year-old sister, Gary Jaworska, in Muswellbrook. That's where she was from, Muswellbrook. She was 15 years old when she strangled her sister and 16 when she was ordered to be detained for life in September 1998.
[A 63:44]: Wow. Jesus.
[B 63:46]: Like how you remember things like that.
[A 63:47]: It is, yeah. But this is the thing, this is what I mean when I say like the amount of people I had another client doing his, and he was in a young offenders with the two kids who killed Jamie Bulger. And you sit there and I was like, I think though because of what, like the, you know, the point of work that I'm in, I was a little bit more on the edge.
[B 64:09]: I was like, I can't ask, but I was like, and what were they like?
[A 64:15]: Yeah.
[B 64:17]: So everybody's already got an interest in that case.
[A 64:22]: And then you find out, and I was like, I need a new phone call with this guy just to find out what they were like. Okay, so that's everything for St. Mary's. I'm just going to ask a couple questions about Hillhead House. What was Hillhead House?
[B 64:38]: Again, it was more of an adult's place. This was for you getting basically learning to be an adult.
[A 64:45]: You had more of a traditional house.
[B 64:47]: Ah, yeah, so you had an office with staff, there was staff there that could help you, but you had your own kind of flat within that big house, so to speak. It was a big house in the West End of Glasgow, you know what I mean?
[A 64:58]: Okay.
[B 64:58]: And I had like maybe— I remember there was two units, so there was a— and the unit that I was in that had staff, but they also had the corner of the side of the block of flats and You had people that lived there on their own, kind of people that progressed from being in with the staff to going to live in their own kind of flat, so to speak.
[A 65:16]: Okay.
[B 65:17]: So it was like a progression thing, like moving on from care and learning how to move into your own house, so to speak.
[A 65:23]: Yeah. And did you ever experience any abuse here?
[B 65:27]: No, because it was more like— it was like normal life. I could just walk up my own door. There was nobody telling you you couldn't come or go.
[A 65:35]: It was It was a bit more freedom to it.
[B 65:37]: Yeah, there was nae staff to tell you, you, that's you, you're grounded tonight, you can't do it, you know what I mean? It was more of, you're on your own.
[A 65:45]: And what was the pub like there?
[B 65:49]: That was a bit more gotty and stuff like that, but it wasn't like, it wasn't terrible, unlivable, but it was, it wasn't a clean place, you know what I mean? But it wasn't, it was, again, I don't remember how long I was there. In my head, I don't remember it being long. I think then I'd moved on from place to place to place, and social workers were still paying for my accommodation at this point.
[A 66:10]: I think I did see on here, let me just get it up to have a little cheque, because I think I know that there was something else about where you went. Uh, yeah, so after Hillhead, you were there 31st of July 2000 into the 5th of September. You went— yeah, you went with your mother, then you went to your stepfather's, and then Glasgow homeless accommodation, it says.
[B 66:43]: Right, okay.
[A 66:47]: The back end of 2000, so it looks like you were there till you were about 17.
[B 66:53]: Right, okay.
[A 66:54]: Yeah, it looks— it looks like— obviously I don't know the ins and outs, um, but from the Can I see how the documents that you've requested—
[B 67:05]: would I be able to get copies of them?
[A 67:06]: Of course you can. So you have full— like, you can have them as soon as we're finished with them and, you know, we've handed everything to Regios. I'll pop that in your notes, um, just that you would like.
[B 67:18]: I don't know if that's a weird request, but I was just like, there's going to be about— see, there's going to be bits of your life that you probably don't remember, you know what I mean?
[A 67:25]: Well, you didn't remember about Oakbank, and you know, I know exactly. Yeah, I'll pop that in your notes, just that you would like your records when we're done. No, that's okay. Um, I know you said it wasn't a very clean place in Hill House, but it wasn't necessarily unlivable.
[B 67:41]: Yeah.
[A 67:42]: Um, I would ask normally, you know, about your routine and stuff, but I know you said it was very, um, individual.
[B 67:48]: I was coming and going. You kind of had to just like give up I think you had to be in for night or you would lose your placement. You couldn't stay out, but you could come and go when you please and stuff like that, you know what I mean?
[A 68:00]: Yeah, so you had more independence.
[B 68:05]: That's the word I'm looking for. You were given more independence to kind of see if you were to be able to go to the next house, which I'll remember. I never got to that one, you know what I mean? But that was the kind of progression. So if you've done well in this one, the kind of staff about you would move to the next one, and then I'm sure you would move on to your own And there was no abuse in this care setting? No, no. Again, I started— I had a friend's up over there and I could come and go when I pleased and stuff like that. So my life really started to change about then, and I was kind of going a bit more— no, that I've done any better. I ended up losing a year later, so yeah.
[A 68:39]: Did you experience any fear, shame, or sleep problems here? No. Okay. And what was different about, um, Hill House compared to everywhere else?
[B 68:54]: I had my freedom. It felt like it was— it wasn't the greatest place, again, it wasn't the cleanliness, but I felt like I had my own freedom as an outcome, which I hadn't had for years previously. I'd been in places getting told what to do from, I don't know, maybe 11, 12, whenever it was I went into foster care back in London. So it was effectively just like getting released from the cage, so to speak, you know what I mean?
[A 69:17]: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so that's all the care settings. So what I'm now going to do is, what I'm going to ask you is questions about all of the care settings as a whole. So instead of saying all of the care settings, it's just about your experience in care. Yeah. So across all of the placements, who were the main people responsible for the abuse that you received? So any names, nicknames, specific job work roles, any descriptions of people?
[B 69:44]: The only name I remember vaguely is Tom, and I couldn't give you descriptions. It's just too vague in my head, you know what I mean? I could be wrong about that night shift member. His name might not have been Tom. That might— I could be completely wrong, but there's something in my head telling me it is, you know what I mean? But again, even the good staff, I couldn't even tell you their names for back in the day. I think it's just been put to place and Yeah, okay.
[A 70:11]: Um, were any other children affected, and did you witness abuse or harm to anyone else?
[B 70:17]: I heard, as I say, in St. John's, I could hear stuff going on at night. I didn't know whether it was sexual abuse or they were getting battered. It was just, it sounded like other kids weren't having a good time, you know what I mean?
[A 70:27]: What kind of thing did you hear?
[B 70:29]: Like screaming, or it sounded like they were maybe being beaten sometimes. It was different, you know what I mean?
[A 70:36]: Yeah, okay. And did you witness any abuse happening to anyone else or anything of the physical abuse?
[B 70:45]: I vaguely remember seeing some kids get a doon, you know what I mean, get beat up. But I would see, again, it would be pretty much the same once you get restrained. When the staff get there, any kids that are about would be moved away from the situation. Yeah, it would just be the staff. So yeah, they would see the start of a lot of these situations. Until there was enough staff to kind of move them on.
[A 71:06]: Okay, why do you believe that the local authority should have known what was happening in these care institutes?
[B 71:14]: Because it's their job to.
[A 71:17]: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but it's a great one, to be honest. I think it's the perfect summary. Okay, were complaints ever discouraged, ignored, or punished?
[B 71:35]: Definitely, I would get punished, definitely. I am—
[A 71:42]: okay, were you ever moved, threatened, or disbelieved if you had a complaint?
[B 71:47]: Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but I was definitely disbelieved a lot back in the day. Yeah, definitely a lot of things were said and And I got moved about quite a lot. As you can see, my younger days, I was in foster care and I came from Scotland, London to Scotland, and then Scotland, I moved about quite a bit. So I had been moved as well. Yeah.
[A 72:07]: Yeah. And have you ever reported the abuse to police, an inquiry, or a professional? Never.
[B 72:15]: Never.
[A 72:16]: Okay. Why did you move between the different placements? Can you remember at all any of the reasoning?
[B 72:24]: It wasn't my decision. It was made. These decisions were made to my back. I never got a choice anywhere I wanted to go at that age.
[A 72:34]: Okay.
[B 72:35]: Until I moved out and got a wholehead house, and then I was basically on my own.
[A 72:40]: And were the reasons you were moved ever explained to you?
[B 72:45]: They might have been. I don't remember them. They could have been. I'd imagine somebody came and said to me why I was getting moved. Yeah, I don't remember that.
[A 72:54]: Okay. And when you did, did you ever run away, refuse to return, or ask to be moved because of what was going on?
[B 73:04]: Yes, all the time. That was my MO, was running away. That's why I was in a secure unit, apparently, because I run away too much.
[A 73:13]: Okay. And what age did you leave care?
[B 73:19]: I think it was maybe around 17, as we've just— yeah, I couldn't have told you, I would have guessed maybe a wee bit older, but it sounds as if for the last social work report it was 17.
[A 73:29]: Yeah. And what were your circumstances after care?
[B 73:33]: Homeless accommodation, prison, and then I got out of prison, I was in homeless accommodation, I met my ex-partner, and I had kids, and That depends on where it goes to.
[A 73:48]: Okay, I'm going to ask you some questions now about the impact of the whole experience.
[B 73:54]: Yep.
[A 73:55]: How did your experience in care affect you at the time in ways of safety, trust, confidence, sleep, behaviour, education, relationships, or the ability to speak up? Quite a lot there, so Yes.
[B 74:10]: Can you give me the two points at a time?
[A 74:12]: Yes, so in terms of safety and trust.
[B 74:15]: I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody. There was staff I did trust in it, as I say, see, there was some good ones that were good with you, you know what I mean, that were there for the right reasons, but I didn't feel safe all the time and I didn't trust everybody, no.
[A 74:29]: Okay. What about your confidence or your sleep?
[B 74:37]: Sleep, I don't remember. Again, it's something I don't remember about, but I definitely did have my confidence massively. Yeah, it was something I had issues with growing up, lose my confidence, because I always get slagged for being English, you know what I mean. I'm obviously Greek, so I've got a big nose, so I got it for that quite a lot as well, you know what I mean. So that obviously takes your confidence growing up.
[A 75:01]: Yeah.
[B 75:04]: Till you get older and you don't give a shit.
[A 75:06]: Yeah, okay. What about behaviour and education?
[B 75:11]: Oh, definitely. Being in these places affected my behaviour and my education. Yeah, again, I remember from St. Mary's I had a couple of good classes. I loved maths. I got on really well with a teacher, and it was a class I thrived on at St. Mary's. But there wasn't a lot of them in St. Mary's, and it was just more about the relationships, you know what I mean? And then the way the staff treated you. Yeah.
[A 75:34]: Okay, did you get your GCSEs?
[B 75:37]: No, we didn't. So in Scotland it's not called GCSE, it's called standard grades, but you didn't get them when you were in St. Mary's. You were just educated at a standard grade level, so I came out with zero qualifications.
[A 75:49]: Okay, I just want to note that down. Okay, um, relationships or your ability to speak up?
[B 76:00]: Ah, it's definitely affected relationships growing up, even to this day with my own kids. I find it hard, um, no, I'm pretty— so what do I use? I'm pretty cold, so to speak, because of the way I am. And it's hard because obviously you've got kids, you can't be like that. So it's affected me, and it's— I've not got it perfect, neither has any parent, but Aye, it's definitely affected my relationships growing up, which, aye. And what was the other one?
[A 76:28]: Your ability to speak up.
[B 76:31]: No, because I think from that it's actually come the opposite way as I've got older. I don't have an issue speaking up now.
[A 76:38]: Okay, because you can.
[B 76:43]: Yeah, well, exactly, aye. I've got the ability to now.
[A 76:46]: Yeah, okay. How has it affected your mental health? So do you suffer from any anxiety?
[B 76:56]: See, this is the thing that I don't know. I couldn't tell you what that is. I definitely have not been right. What's affected from what happened to me in care is the adult I was going to be, and I've not been as good an adult as I could have been because of them. But didn't put any illnesses around that because I don't know what they are. I don't know if I have both. I don't know, you know what I mean? And I don't know, it's just hard to explain.
[A 77:24]: Okay, what about any depression?
[B 77:27]: I definitely went through bouts of depression, yeah, 100% in my life.
[A 77:32]: What about trauma symptoms? So do you suffer from any panic attacks?
[B 77:38]: No.
[A 77:39]: Flashbacks?
[B 77:39]: I get flashbacks, yeah, I always got flashbacks of certain situations, especially the 95th person in St. John's. That's something that I dealt with through my early 20s and most of my 30s until I kind of blocked that out and just tried to put it somewhere where I never thought about it as much.
[A 77:57]: Yeah, what about any nightmares?
[B 77:59]: Yeah, I definitely had nightmares of it. I would always say dreams, but I've definitely always— I've definitely had nightmares of it, yeah. And other things happening because of that.
[A 78:10]: Yeah. Have you ever self-harmed or had suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:15]: I tried it when I was in care, I'm sure. I'm pretty sure I tried it a few times when I was in care.
[A 78:22]: Okay. Do you still suffer from suicidal thoughts?
[B 78:29]: I've had a rough couple years the last year, and I've had a me and my one of my brothers found my other brother dead. So I, I don't know about— I've got no one to be here. I don't know if it's suicidal, but I— it's been a rough couple of years. So, okay, no, not from after my time in St. Mary's. As I say, I went on to go to prison and stuff like that. So I— it was pretty much from a child to an adult setting of that. And then once I got to my early went in and out, kind of settled down a bit and it changed then, but I was put—
[A 79:05]: Yeah, no, I understand. I'm now going to ask you some questions about your physical health. So has it affected your sleep still to this day?
[B 79:14]: No.
[A 79:15]: Okay. Do you suffer with any pain because of what you went through?
[B 79:20]: No, not to this day.
[A 79:21]: Have you turned to alcohol use?
[B 79:26]: Um, I don't— I'm not a big drinker now. I was in my teens. I was taking ecstasy, I took cocaine, everything when I was young, from early teens, from St. Mary's effectively, to all the way to the big drink of smoking cannabis. I still smoke cannabis to this day. Okay. By my teens and my early 20s, I would say that's how I blocked a lot out. I would imagine.
[A 79:59]: Would you say that in your teenage years it was alcohol dependency, or would you just say that it was something you turned to?
[B 80:05]: It was definitely something I used to block it all out, yeah. So I wasn't dependent on it.
[A 80:10]: Okay.
[B 80:11]: Cannabis, definitely. I'm dependent on cannabis, yeah, and I've been— so to say, I smoke cannabis 11 or 12, I think.
[A 80:18]: Okay. Okay. Has your experience in care— obviously, I know I asked earlier about your relationships and you mentioned parenting— how would you, in a short sentence, describe how it's affected your parenting?
[B 80:38]: Well, I don't think I lived with my mother, so I never really had never got brought up knowing how or any help whatsoever. I'm pretty much sure what I've learned is what you learn is learned behaviour for your mother and father. I never had that, so I was kind of just learning on the go, and I wasn't always making the right decision. And I know parents don't always do it, but there was decisions that I probably could have got right if I'd maybe had a better upbringing, or I'd have been— yeah, I'd have been around my own family, so to speak, and no one cared or You know what I mean?
[A 81:10]: Yeah. What about any friendships?
[B 81:14]: I've always had a very small circle of friends because of my care. Again, I trust them because I don't trust many people.
[A 81:21]: Okay.
[B 81:24]: I've had the same few friends for my wee teen.
[A 81:29]: What about your ability to be intimate with someone? Has it affected intimacy?
[B 81:34]: Mm, it did when I was younger, yeah. Not so much now.
[A 81:41]: Okay. And your trust and isolation, so do you ever find yourself isolating yourself because of what you went through?
[B 81:52]: Um, I don't know if it would be because I went through this. One of the things I do quite a lot, that's how I deal with things, I just shut myself off everybody, and that's something I've always done. And yeah, that would stem from then, I suppose. Yeah.
[A 82:04]: Yeah, okay. How has your time in care affected your education? So I know you said you studied. Okay, and what about work?
[B 82:19]: Um, I never worked until my 30s or something like that. I've never had any jobs or anything like that. I've never—
[A 82:25]: Do you currently have a job now?
[B 82:27]: I'm not working just now, no, but I have, I have been, and I know what work obviously for the last 10, 15 years. Different jobs, done ventilation, done groundworks and stuff like that. But it wasn't until my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 82:43]: Okay. Has it affected opportunities for you?
[B 82:49]: I would say so, yeah. I wouldn't have a criminal record if I don't think— if I wasn't in care, I probably wouldn't have a criminal record, you know what I mean? If it had a different a different— that's what I'm looking for— a different start in life, you know what I mean? I could have maybe been in a different place in life. So I actually— definitely affected my ability for jobs, aye. And it was just— he made me a very late starter, which was a disadvantage, you know what I mean? I wasn't going out and getting into work, and I'd missed apprenticeships and college and stuff. Well, I know you can go back in your older years, but it's not I think you really need to do these things in your younger years. Yeah, I know what you mean. To get full advantage from them.
[A 83:28]: Has it affected your housing?
[B 83:31]: Yeah, I've been homeless for almost most of my days, you know what I mean, until I've settled down in this house I'm in just now. When I got my son back into my life, when my brother passed away, my son now lives with me. I'd been through Pilate Post, I'd stayed with my son's mum, obviously we had our own house, but I'd stayed with brothers, I'd been in and out of hostels. You know what I mean? So I— it's definitely affected my— yeah, my living circumstances going forward.
[A 83:59]: Okay. And what about your day-to-day stability?
[B 84:04]: Um, not so much now. As I say, it's something I put away many years ago, but it would have gone through my teens and 20s for sure.
[A 84:13]: Okay. Are there any triggers, places, smells, authority figures, or situations that you avoid I try and stay away if we pass St.
[B 84:24]: John's. It's not there anymore, but the place that it was still stands. It's still got a wall around it, you know what I mean? But it's somewhere I just don't have very good memories of the place, so it's just somewhere I've never really tried to go back near.
[A 84:37]: And is it near where you live?
[B 84:39]: It's on the other side of Glasgow, but Glasgow's not a very big place. It's pretty small. I can get to about 20 minutes from my house, and I'm on the other side of Glasgow.
[A 84:49]: Okay, and in a few words, I know it's quite difficult, what impact has it had on your life overall?
[B 85:01]: Um, I'm sorry.
[A 85:02]: It's a hard one, I know.
[B 85:04]: I need a couple of secs on that one.
[A 85:06]: Yeah, of course, take your time.
[B 85:10]: Ask me the question again.
[A 85:11]: What impact has being in care had on your life overall?
[B 85:15]: That gave me the worst possible start in life, totally. I've been in and out of secure units, mentally scarred from years of mental and physical abuse in and out these establishments. So it gave me the worst start in life. And again, I've only just started to get my shit together in my late 20s, early 30s.
[A 85:36]: Okay.
[B 85:37]: Which I'm still no 100%, I still know where I would want to be in life, but Right, which is a start.
[A 85:45]: Yeah, absolutely. And this one's a bit of a difficult one. How— what do you think might have been different if you had not been in care?
[B 86:03]: Oh, again, I think I would have had a better head start in life. I wouldn't have been in an foster parents, secure units, residential schools, hostels, homeless units. If I hadn't been in care from the start, again, I might have still went down the same path, but who knows, you know what I mean? I don't think I would have been if I came from a better start in life. But again, a lot of that stems from my mother, so yeah.
[A 86:30]: Okay, have you ever received counselling, therapy, mental health, addiction, GP, hospital, or other professional support?
[B 86:39]: No.
[A 86:40]: Okay. Have you ever been diagnosed with any mental health conditions?
[B 86:44]: No.
[A 86:45]: And have you ever been taking any medication for mental health problems?
[B 86:49]: No.
[A 86:50]: Okay. Are you receiving any help at the moment?
[B 86:54]: None. I've always been just box it off, deal with it, move on.
[A 86:58]: No, I get that.
[B 86:59]: But then this is now and you can't change that, just try and move on. That's the Liverpool mentality I've had for the last 10 to 20 years, you know what I mean?
[A 87:08]: Yeah, and is there any siblings, relatives, friends, partners, anyone that you would like to provide a supporting statement for you?
[B 87:16]: Um, no. Okay, and I think my brother is actually going to do his own claim because again he's been through pretty much the same as me but just 10 years later. In fact, I don't know if he'll fall in the timing, will he?
[A 87:31]: It had to be before 2004.
[B 87:33]: Nah, he'll know, he was only born in 1994, so he won't actually, he won't be able to do it.
[A 87:37]: I know, bless him. I don't know why they've put that as the—
[B 87:42]: to be fair, I think it was a lot worse. Yeah, pre-2000s, you know what I mean? I think things started to get seen and it was made more— people, there was more eyes on these places, so things started to change again. There was new units built, it was different systems put in place for restraining people.
[A 87:59]: More people would have come out about it as well.
[B 88:01]: Yeah, yeah, that's it, more whistleblowers, weren't there?
[A 88:06]: Okay, I'm going to ask you the last couple of questions now, so we are really close to the end. Yep. Why are you applying to the Scottish Redress Scheme, and what would you like to come from telling them your storey?
[B 88:19]: Justice for the mistreatment I think I had when I was in the care setting.
[A 88:26]: Yeah.
[B 88:32]: And for them to maybe take some responsibility.
[A 88:36]: Absolutely. What would acknowledgement mean to you? So what would the Scottish government acknowledging what happened to you mean to you?
[B 88:48]: A bit of closure on something, maybe. I don't know if it will give closure, but the full stop on something at least. I wish they've admitted that they were in the wrong. If they are, and I don't know how they do that, I don't know if payment is actually admission, is it, you know what I mean? But it's something, isn't it, you know what I mean?
[A 89:06]: It's not enough.
[B 89:09]: You feel as if you weren't wrong. I think that's probably the best answer I could give. You feel as if you weren't wrong.
[A 89:16]: Yeah. Okay. Is there anything else that you want Scottish Redress to understand about what happened to you or the harm that you lived through?
[B 89:27]: No, I think that's enough. Do you think that's enough?
[A 89:30]: I can't give you that answer, unfortunately.
[B 89:32]: Okay, okay, sorry.
[A 89:33]: No, it's okay. It's just, it's your statement. If you feel that, yeah, enough, that's absolutely fine.
[B 89:38]: Oh, I think that's enough.
[A 89:39]: Yeah, absolutely. Okay, um, is there anything that we haven't covered today? No.
[B 89:47]: Can I just ask one question? What's, uh, obviously it's been on for a while. What's the turnaround time for redress to let us know what's happening?
[A 89:54]: So at the minute there is no set timeline, but we are hoping that we will have a decision and a payout by Christmas this year.
[B 90:02]: Right, okay, perfect.
[A 90:03]: There's no guarantee, but we're really hoping that is going to happen.
[B 90:08]: Yep, no problem at all.
[A 90:10]: We'll keep you as updated as we can as well, you know, if we hear anything back from them, we'll always give an update.
[B 90:16]: Yep, well, that's brilliant.
[A 90:18]: Thank you very much. No problem. Is there any wording that you would like to be handled carefully?
[B 90:23]: No, I'm not really, no.
[A 90:25]: Okay, and how are you feeling after discussing everything today?
[B 90:30]: I actually feel as if it's been a bit good getting that a bit out. I've never really probably spoken in as much depth as I have to you, so it feels, I don't know.
[A 90:40]: A bit like a weight off your shoulders in a way?
[B 90:42]: I don't know, it feels weird. I feel weird.
[A 90:44]: Yeah. Steve, would you feel safe to end the phone call though?
[B 90:48]: Oh no, 100%. Yeah, I don't feel bad. I don't know, it's a weird feeling. I don't know, I can't explain it. I don't feel bad, but I'm okay.
[A 90:58]: Yeah, okay. And if you did need support, is there someone that you can contact?
[B 91:03]: Yeah, yeah, my brother and stuff just up the road.
[A 91:06]: So perfect. And so I'm now going to give you a quick explanation about the next steps. So what'll happen is I'll go away and what I've made notes from, I'll write out into a full statement. I'm then going to use all of your care records and your GP records to create kind of an exhibit index, so just bits of proof that can be added alongside it.
[B 91:29]: Yep.
[A 91:30]: And once that is done, you'll receive your statement and a payment authority letter from us. So the statement is just for you to sign and say that you're happy with it and that you believe it's it's as true as can be.
[B 91:44]: Yeah.
[A 91:44]: And the payment authority letter, and when you sign that, it just means that when Scottish Redress do pay out, it comes to us. We'll then take our, um, 16% plus VAT cut, and then the rest will be passed over to you.
[B 91:58]: Yep.
[A 91:59]: Um, once that is all signed, um, before we send it off to Redress, we do something called an identification verification call. So that is literally a, like, a 20-second WhatsApp video call with our head solicitor and my manager. It'll just be for you to hold your ID next to your face for them to say, yep, that's you.
[B 92:18]: Yeah, no problem.
[A 92:19]: Dead quick. And then once that's done, it will be sent off straight to Redress for a decision. Okay, perfect. If you have any questions or any queries or want anything cleared up in the meantime, you can just give us a call as well.
[B 92:32]: No problem at all.
[A 92:33]: Are you happy with how the next steps have been explained?
[B 92:35]: Yep, that's perfect. Thank you very much.
[A 92:37]: Amazing. So that is the full statement done. So I've got everything written down there. So like I said, I'll go away and I'll type it all up and we'll be in touch when we can send it to you for signature.
[B 92:51]: Perfect. That's brilliant. Thank you very much for your time today.
[A 92:53]: Thank you for your time and thank you for being so brave and being able to be so honest with me.
[B 92:58]: No, I appreciate it. Thank you very much.
[A 93:00]: Of course. Thanks very much, David. Take care.
[B 93:03]: You too. Bye-bye.
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[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#40 {main}

[previous exception] [object] (PDOException(code: 22001): SQLSTATE[22001]: String data, right truncated: 1406 Data too long for column 'raw_transcript' at row 1 at /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:609)
[stacktrace]
#0 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(609): PDOStatement->execute()
#1 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(827): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->{closure:Illuminate\\Database\\Connection::affectingStatement():597}('update `synapse...', Array)
#2 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(794): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->runQueryCallback('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#3 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(597): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->run('update `synapse...', Array, Object(Closure))
#4 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php(549): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->affectingStatement('update `synapse...', Array)
#5 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Query/Builder.php(4234): Illuminate\\Database\\Connection->update('update `synapse...', Array)
#6 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Eloquent/Builder.php(1266): Illuminate\\Database\\Query\\Builder->update(Object(Illuminate\\Support\\Collection))
#7 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/app/Jobs/Synapse/CheckTranscriptionStatusJob.php(63): Illuminate\\Database\\Eloquent\\Builder->update(Array)
#8 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob->handle()
#9 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#10 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#11 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#12 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#13 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(129): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#14 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->{closure:Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher::dispatchNow():126}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#15 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#16 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Bus/Dispatcher.php(133): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#17 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(136): Illuminate\\Bus\\Dispatcher->dispatchNow(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob), false)
#18 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(180): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->{closure:Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler::dispatchThroughMiddleware():129}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#19 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Pipeline/Pipeline.php(137): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->{closure:Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline::prepareDestination():178}(Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#20 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(129): Illuminate\\Pipeline\\Pipeline->then(Object(Closure))
#21 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/CallQueuedHandler.php(70): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->dispatchThroughMiddleware(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(App\\Jobs\\Synapse\\CheckTranscriptionStatusJob))
#22 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Jobs/Job.php(102): Illuminate\\Queue\\CallQueuedHandler->call(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Array)
#23 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(504): Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\Job->fire()
#24 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(454): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->process('database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#25 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Worker.php(212): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->runJob(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Jobs\\DatabaseJob), 'database', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#26 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(149): Illuminate\\Queue\\Worker->daemon('database', 'default', Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\WorkerOptions))
#27 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Queue/Console/WorkCommand.php(132): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->runWorker('database', 'default')
#28 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(36): Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand->handle()
#29 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Util.php(43): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::{closure:Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call():35}()
#30 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(96): Illuminate\\Container\\Util::unwrapIfClosure(Object(Closure))
#31 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/BoundMethod.php(35): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::callBoundMethod(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Object(Closure))
#32 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Container/Container.php(799): Illuminate\\Container\\BoundMethod::call(Object(Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application), Array, Array, NULL)
#33 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(211): Illuminate\\Container\\Container->call(Array)
#34 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Command/Command.php(341): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->execute(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#35 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Console/Command.php(180): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Command\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Illuminate\\Console\\OutputStyle))
#36 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(1117): Illuminate\\Console\\Command->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#37 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(356): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRunCommand(Object(Illuminate\\Queue\\Console\\WorkCommand), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#38 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/symfony/console/Application.php(195): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->doRun(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#39 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Console/Kernel.php(198): Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Application->run(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#40 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Foundation/Application.php(1235): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Console\\Kernel->handle(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput), Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Output\\ConsoleOutput))
#41 /home/fintrixorcouk/public_html/ha/artisan(16): Illuminate\\Foundation\\Application->handleCommand(Object(Symfony\\Component\\Console\\Input\\ArgvInput))
#42 {main}
"} 
[2026-08-20 16:26:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWD92177V79JGDQ8YDTPF2"} 
[2026-08-20 16:26:28] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 4442. {"total_score":78,"risk_rating":"compliance_concern","has_sections":true} 
[2026-08-20 16:27:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWQ7K1MDES150R1AWQYVVB"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:35] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FWQ7K1MDES150R1AWQYVVB"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWQ7N2Q1TPNZKZVCP52K67"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:36] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FWQ7N2Q1TPNZKZVCP52K67"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWQ7NJPYK7JNDHJXBNYD2F"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:36] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FWQ7NJPYK7JNDHJXBNYD2F"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWQ7P304ABTX0GYT7REYTW"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:37] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FWQ7P304ABTX0GYT7REYTW"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWQ7R98B37HB9K8YPMTFJ5"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:38] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FWQ7R98B37HB9K8YPMTFJ5"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWQ7S8HXX1P1D1ZECKAYVT"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:39] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0FWQ7S8HXX1P1D1ZECKAYVT"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:43] production.INFO: eSign signing-link email: firing trigger (single request link) {"contract_request_id":1042,"documents":6,"has_signing_url":true} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:46] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWQ7K1MDES150R1AWQYVVB"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:47] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWQ7N2Q1TPNZKZVCP52K67"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:48] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAb98d3f797c16bd32eda87b9c573e93bc","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6408"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:48] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6408,"CallSid":"CAb98d3f797c16bd32eda87b9c573e93bc","From":"client:agent_production_26","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_26","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_26","CallSid":"CAb98d3f797c16bd32eda87b9c573e93bc","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6408"}} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:48] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWQ7NJPYK7JNDHJXBNYD2F"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:49] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWQ7P304ABTX0GYT7REYTW"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:50] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWQ7R98B37HB9K8YPMTFJ5"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:51] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0FWQ7S8HXX1P1D1ZECKAYVT"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:52] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FWQ7K1MDES150R1AWQYVVB"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:54] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FWQ7N2Q1TPNZKZVCP52K67"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:54] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FWQ7NJPYK7JNDHJXBNYD2F"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:55] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FWQ7P304ABTX0GYT7REYTW"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:56] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FWQ7R98B37HB9K8YPMTFJ5"} 
[2026-08-20 16:30:57] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0FWQ7S8HXX1P1D1ZECKAYVT"} 
[2026-08-20 16:32:35] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4443 → AssemblyAI 49a18629-91ff-4d73-a540-8be64bce96d7  
[2026-08-20 16:33:36] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4443 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 16:33:36] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4443 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 16:33:36] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4443. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 16:33:37] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4443  
[2026-08-20 16:33:51] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7K1MDES150R1AWQYVVB"} 
[2026-08-20 16:33:52] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7N2Q1TPNZKZVCP52K67"} 
[2026-08-20 16:33:53] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7NJPYK7JNDHJXBNYD2F"} 
[2026-08-20 16:33:54] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7P304ABTX0GYT7REYTW"} 
[2026-08-20 16:33:55] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7R98B37HB9K8YPMTFJ5"} 
[2026-08-20 16:33:55] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7S8HXX1P1D1ZECKAYVT"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:11] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FWD92177V79JGDQ8YDTPF2"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:12] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FWD940Y99RSGTK93323CPN"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FWD94FVEYTPFQQM7BZWB65"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FWD94Y7QMQW18C9X072WH8"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FWD978FBWD29F0NBHRZYK5"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FWD98754BJED8TMNNZH8JC"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:16] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FWD99296QERX99TQXPBF93"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:17] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FWD99Q3QFK3E80MAHX9NRF"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:20] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FWD92177V79JGDQ8YDTPF2"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:21] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FWD940Y99RSGTK93323CPN"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:22] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FWD94FVEYTPFQQM7BZWB65"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:23] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FWD94Y7QMQW18C9X072WH8"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:23] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FWD978FBWD29F0NBHRZYK5"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:24] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FWD98754BJED8TMNNZH8JC"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FWD99296QERX99TQXPBF93"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FWD99Q3QFK3E80MAHX9NRF"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FWD92177V79JGDQ8YDTPF2"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FWD92177V79JGDQ8YDTPF2"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FWD940Y99RSGTK93323CPN"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FWD940Y99RSGTK93323CPN"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FWD94FVEYTPFQQM7BZWB65"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FWD94FVEYTPFQQM7BZWB65"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FWD94Y7QMQW18C9X072WH8"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FWD94Y7QMQW18C9X072WH8"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:34] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FWD978FBWD29F0NBHRZYK5"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:34] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FWD978FBWD29F0NBHRZYK5"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FWD98754BJED8TMNNZH8JC"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FWD98754BJED8TMNNZH8JC"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FWD99296QERX99TQXPBF93"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FWD99296QERX99TQXPBF93"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FWD99Q3QFK3E80MAHX9NRF"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FWD99Q3QFK3E80MAHX9NRF"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:40] production.INFO: Broadcasting [Illuminate\Notifications\Events\BroadcastNotificationCreated] on channels [private-App.Models.User.User.26] with payload:
{
    "type": "App\\Notifications\\InitialDocumentsSignedNotification",
    "title": "Initial documents e-signed",
    "message": "Mr Stephen Stirling Feeney e-signed 8 documents",
    "client_id": 1246,
    "client_name": "Mr Stephen Stirling Feeney",
    "documents": [
        "LOA",
        "Client Care Letter",
        "CFA",
        "Part 1",
        "Part 2",
        "Part 2 Extra",
        "Part 2 Extra",
        "Part 2 Extra"
    ],
    "id": "17c7c40a-f1ad-4ed4-a312-897a360a4f0a",
    "socket": null
}  
[2026-08-20 16:34:47] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA841e2ce16dd2f597d1d744542a4799d6","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6409"} 
[2026-08-20 16:34:47] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6409,"CallSid":"CA841e2ce16dd2f597d1d744542a4799d6","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA841e2ce16dd2f597d1d744542a4799d6","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6409"}} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7K1MDES150R1AWQYVVB"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:11] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7N2Q1TPNZKZVCP52K67"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:11] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7NJPYK7JNDHJXBNYD2F"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:12] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7P304ABTX0GYT7REYTW"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7R98B37HB9K8YPMTFJ5"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7S8HXX1P1D1ZECKAYVT"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FWQ7K1MDES150R1AWQYVVB"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7K1MDES150R1AWQYVVB"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:16] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FWQ7N2Q1TPNZKZVCP52K67"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:17] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7N2Q1TPNZKZVCP52K67"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:18] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FWQ7NJPYK7JNDHJXBNYD2F"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:18] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7NJPYK7JNDHJXBNYD2F"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:19] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FWQ7P304ABTX0GYT7REYTW"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:20] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7P304ABTX0GYT7REYTW"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:21] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FWQ7R98B37HB9K8YPMTFJ5"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:22] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7R98B37HB9K8YPMTFJ5"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:23] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FWQ7S8HXX1P1D1ZECKAYVT"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:23] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FWQ7S8HXX1P1D1ZECKAYVT"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:24] production.INFO: Broadcasting [Illuminate\Notifications\Events\BroadcastNotificationCreated] on channels [private-App.Models.User.User.39] with payload:
{
    "type": "App\\Notifications\\InitialDocumentsSignedNotification",
    "title": "Initial documents e-signed",
    "message": "Miss Marion Winskill e-signed 6 documents",
    "client_id": 1567,
    "client_name": "Miss Marion Winskill",
    "documents": [
        "LOA",
        "Client Care Letter",
        "CFA",
        "Part 1",
        "Part 2",
        "Part 2 Extra"
    ],
    "id": "46dec772-7be9-4002-a126-57bab708b7b2",
    "socket": null
}  
[2026-08-20 16:35:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:35:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 16:36:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 16:36:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:36:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:36:45] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4444 → AssemblyAI aeab64ed-3940-4c3c-a545-7cab553ac927  
[2026-08-20 16:37:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:37:16] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4445 → AssemblyAI 3349cc32-b6c5-40a1-9fee-e606441b5ba2  
[2026-08-20 16:37:46] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4444 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 16:37:46] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4444 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 16:37:47] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4444. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 16:37:47] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: recording 4444 marked 'initial' by agent disposition; skipping classifier.  
[2026-08-20 16:37:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 16:38:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:38:17] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4445 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 16:38:17] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4445 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 16:38:17] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4445. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 16:38:20] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4445  
[2026-08-20 16:38:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 16:38:32] production.DEBUG: temp/dsar-merged-4d2701cb-32f8-4c4b-b9d1-a3466e8c7326.pdf  
[2026-08-20 16:38:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:38:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 16:38:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:38:42] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 4444. {"total_score":83,"risk_rating":"acceptable","has_sections":true} 
[2026-08-20 16:39:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:39:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:39:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:39:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:39:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:39:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:39:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:40:03] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:40:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:40:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_37"} 
[2026-08-20 16:40:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:40:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:40:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 16:40:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_22"} 
[2026-08-20 16:40:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:40:28] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 16:40:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:40:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:40:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:40:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:42:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:43:44] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 16:43:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:43:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 16:43:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 16:44:01] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA5eea21c9e0152d95a8dd1053c096ec27","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6410"} 
[2026-08-20 16:44:01] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6410,"CallSid":"CA5eea21c9e0152d95a8dd1053c096ec27","From":"client:agent_production_37","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_37","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_37","CallSid":"CA5eea21c9e0152d95a8dd1053c096ec27","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6410"}} 
[2026-08-20 16:44:37] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:45:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 16:46:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:46:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 16:46:17] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19947 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 16:46:19] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19947 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref=''.  
[2026-08-20 16:46:32] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19947 — AI matcher dsar_id=, confidence=low.  
[2026-08-20 16:46:34] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19947 response_type=acknowledgement.  
[2026-08-20 16:46:34] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19947 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=none).  
[2026-08-20 16:46:43] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19947 (client 1567, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 16:47:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 16:48:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 16:48:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_28"} 
[2026-08-20 16:48:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 16:48:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 16:48:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 16:48:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:48:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 16:48:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_34"} 
[2026-08-20 16:48:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 16:48:51] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CA4e6d8b6e8e43474ea7e8ac82abf6ed5b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6411"} 
[2026-08-20 16:48:51] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6411,"CallSid":"CA4e6d8b6e8e43474ea7e8ac82abf6ed5b","From":"client:agent_production_28","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CA4e6d8b6e8e43474ea7e8ac82abf6ed5b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6411"}} 
[2026-08-20 16:48:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:19] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FS8P36ASPPCT1HBN2KB19Y"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:20] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FS8P519K9RJ202KJ3HNWWX"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:20] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FS8P5KEED3G4D8QZ8J5HRT"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:21] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FS8P64P36SS4FRHZ7HKEWD"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:22] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FS8P8S8V8TJ6JG6B0KH3MK"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:23] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FS8P9QFJRA9FQ7EY2VHS8N"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:24] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0FS8PAAXRB2VGEJNHV41425"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:24] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FS8P36ASPPCT1HBN2KB19Y"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FS8P519K9RJ202KJ3HNWWX"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FS8P5KEED3G4D8QZ8J5HRT"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FS8P64P36SS4FRHZ7HKEWD"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FS8P8S8V8TJ6JG6B0KH3MK"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FS8P9QFJRA9FQ7EY2VHS8N"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0FS8PAAXRB2VGEJNHV41425"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FS8P36ASPPCT1HBN2KB19Y"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FS8P36ASPPCT1HBN2KB19Y"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FS8P519K9RJ202KJ3HNWWX"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FS8P519K9RJ202KJ3HNWWX"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FS8P5KEED3G4D8QZ8J5HRT"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:34] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FS8P5KEED3G4D8QZ8J5HRT"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:34] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FS8P64P36SS4FRHZ7HKEWD"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FS8P64P36SS4FRHZ7HKEWD"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FS8P8S8V8TJ6JG6B0KH3MK"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FS8P8S8V8TJ6JG6B0KH3MK"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FS8P9QFJRA9FQ7EY2VHS8N"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FS8P9QFJRA9FQ7EY2VHS8N"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0FS8PAAXRB2VGEJNHV41425"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0FS8PAAXRB2VGEJNHV41425"} 
[2026-08-20 16:51:40] production.INFO: Broadcasting [Illuminate\Notifications\Events\BroadcastNotificationCreated] on channels [private-App.Models.User.User.39] with payload:
{
    "type": "App\\Notifications\\InitialDocumentsSignedNotification",
    "title": "Initial documents e-signed",
    "message": "Mr James George Tanner e-signed 7 documents",
    "client_id": 1560,
    "client_name": "Mr James George Tanner",
    "documents": [
        "LOA",
        "Client Care Letter",
        "CFA",
        "Part 1",
        "Part 2",
        "Part 2 Extra",
        "Part 2 Extra"
    ],
    "id": "412ce295-0151-40e6-9cbf-e727b07ed115",
    "socket": null
}  
[2026-08-20 16:52:25] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:50] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA1b3682de05a80193f3d5b6a37c3f5997","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6412"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:50] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6412,"CallSid":"CA1b3682de05a80193f3d5b6a37c3f5997","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA1b3682de05a80193f3d5b6a37c3f5997","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6412"}} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:52:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:08] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:11] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:17] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:27] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_32"} 
[2026-08-20 16:53:58] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4446 → AssemblyAI ee2b3bbb-3b78-40c8-898f-c0955a7bc981  
[2026-08-20 16:54:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 16:54:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:54:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:54:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:54:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:54:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:54:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:54:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:54:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:54:59] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4446 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 16:54:59] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4446 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 16:55:00] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4446. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 16:55:01] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4446  
[2026-08-20 16:55:26] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4447 → AssemblyAI 3fbfbf71-f49b-47d1-bb8e-87855e9911e0  
[2026-08-20 16:56:27] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4447 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 16:56:27] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4447 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 16:56:27] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4447. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 16:56:30] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4447  
[2026-08-20 16:57:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 16:57:12] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CA1546d1377c4e1ca7fb9d7dcd697e04ea","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6413"} 
[2026-08-20 16:57:12] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6413,"CallSid":"CA1546d1377c4e1ca7fb9d7dcd697e04ea","From":"client:agent_production_28","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_28","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_28","CallSid":"CA1546d1377c4e1ca7fb9d7dcd697e04ea","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6413"}} 
[2026-08-20 16:57:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 16:58:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 16:58:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_26"} 
[2026-08-20 16:59:55] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA3a1a9b8e70014cf988870cb961c9ec23","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6414"} 
[2026-08-20 16:59:55] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6414,"CallSid":"CA3a1a9b8e70014cf988870cb961c9ec23","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA3a1a9b8e70014cf988870cb961c9ec23","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6414"}} 
[2026-08-20 17:00:38] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4448 → AssemblyAI 65567a2b-f9bc-4de7-bfac-87b0fe3b6908  
[2026-08-20 17:01:03] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4449 → AssemblyAI 02a120c5-6ee9-43c5-8445-dcc66aa3c61d  
[2026-08-20 17:01:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_39"} 
[2026-08-20 17:01:39] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4448 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 17:01:39] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4448 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 17:01:40] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4448. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 17:01:41] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4448  
[2026-08-20 17:02:04] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4449 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 17:02:04] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4449 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 17:02:04] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4449. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 17:02:05] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4449  
[2026-08-20 17:03:15] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11821 (~WRD0001.jpg) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 17:03:15] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11822 (image001.jpg) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 17:03:18] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19957 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 17:03:18] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19957 matched via regex reference 'DSAR-20260820-C0B28E' → DSAR 4341.  
[2026-08-20 17:03:20] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19957 response_type=acknowledgement.  
[2026-08-20 17:03:20] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19957 → triage_queue=dsar_updates (response_type=acknowledgement, dsar_id=4341).  
[2026-08-20 17:03:20] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19957 auto-set DSAR 4341 status → acknowledged (response_type=acknowledgement).  
[2026-08-20 17:03:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 17:03:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 17:05:14] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA21887b82fcf06dc74fe08b1bbeb95fe8","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6415"} 
[2026-08-20 17:05:14] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6415,"CallSid":"CA21887b82fcf06dc74fe08b1bbeb95fe8","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA21887b82fcf06dc74fe08b1bbeb95fe8","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6415"}} 
[2026-08-20 17:06:28] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA4708c07bbf35d4284e6693d1f278e1bd","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6416"} 
[2026-08-20 17:06:28] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6416,"CallSid":"CA4708c07bbf35d4284e6693d1f278e1bd","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA4708c07bbf35d4284e6693d1f278e1bd","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6416"}} 
[2026-08-20 17:07:01] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAba460cf55a3b7c41f6265f6faba91336","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6417"} 
[2026-08-20 17:07:01] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6417,"CallSid":"CAba460cf55a3b7c41f6265f6faba91336","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAba460cf55a3b7c41f6265f6faba91336","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6417"}} 
[2026-08-20 17:07:03] production.WARNING: Twilio webhook signature validation failed. {"url":"https://ha.fintrixor.co.uk/webhook/twilio/status","signature":"wuflnN523Ihnvfp0NvFKdN4+RNQ=","params":["Called","ParentCallSid","ToState","CallerCountry","Direction","Timestamp","CallbackSource","SipResponseCode","CallerState","ToZip","SequenceNumber","CallSid","To","CallerZip","ToCountry","CalledZip","ApiVersion","CalledCity","CallStatus","Duration","From","CallDuration","AccountSid","CalledCountry","CallerCity","ToCity","FromCountry","Caller","FromCity","CalledState","ErrorCode","FromZip","ErrorMessage","FromState"]} 
[2026-08-20 17:07:43] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA4bf31bcbb89fa38cb0749a8953d11c20","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6418"} 
[2026-08-20 17:07:43] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6418,"CallSid":"CA4bf31bcbb89fa38cb0749a8953d11c20","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA4bf31bcbb89fa38cb0749a8953d11c20","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6418"}} 
[2026-08-20 17:09:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 17:13:42] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 17:16:17] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAeae1ec82709fc52b742f3c57f26a5e40","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6419"} 
[2026-08-20 17:16:17] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6419,"CallSid":"CAeae1ec82709fc52b742f3c57f26a5e40","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAeae1ec82709fc52b742f3c57f26a5e40","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6419"}} 
[2026-08-20 17:16:57] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4450 → AssemblyAI fd1fe193-6c80-4c16-897d-97afabf392c7  
[2026-08-20 17:17:58] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4450 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 17:17:58] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4450 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 17:17:58] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4450. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 17:17:58] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4450 — too short to classify (duration=24s, words=68).  
[2026-08-20 17:18:15] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAac3d2ca0a4199b8e1a5770191e63280f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6420"} 
[2026-08-20 17:18:15] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6420,"CallSid":"CAac3d2ca0a4199b8e1a5770191e63280f","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAac3d2ca0a4199b8e1a5770191e63280f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6420"}} 
[2026-08-20 17:19:09] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4451 → AssemblyAI 4082a906-43c6-4b4a-94c7-1f82825d7102  
[2026-08-20 17:19:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 17:20:09] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4451 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 17:20:09] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4451 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 17:20:10] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4451. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 17:20:10] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4451 — too short to classify (duration=24s, words=70).  
[2026-08-20 17:22:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 17:23:01] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CAe53f7c8418f67087cccf21a0d2ef0cea","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0FlNTNmN2M4NDE4ZjY3MDg3Y2NjZjIxYTBkMmVmMGNlYSIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NzUzNjQ3MTgwIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzI0Mjk4MCJ9.jNAL6s7tfGXEGTHbWgwOo0cQc8Te0PRjqkyhUOgzyXIjj65IZ8b4Ypv5viLFLrELoQjXBCQh2PCx7fCL52uE3A%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447753647180","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447753647180","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 17:23:21] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CAe53f7c8418f67087cccf21a0d2ef0cea","DialCallSid":"CAc946e865c52fda9ddb0cc6c3ad1fea34","DialCallStatus":"no-answer","DialCallDuration":null} 
[2026-08-20 17:25:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 17:25:30] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA9cbd203b6428e21eea229121d2aeaddd","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6422"} 
[2026-08-20 17:25:30] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6422,"CallSid":"CA9cbd203b6428e21eea229121d2aeaddd","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA9cbd203b6428e21eea229121d2aeaddd","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6422"}} 
[2026-08-20 17:25:40] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA332a1642ca1b2ed0277d85a90ca20c56","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0EzMzJhMTY0MmNhMWIyZWQwMjc3ZDg1YTkwY2EyMGM1NiIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3ODMzNDU1NTExIiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzI0MzEzOSJ9.HFC-1TJIspXpQQ9XfoT_qkE7cIUaNiYbL_XNhfWsnKqPwvmr2Ul6puEeQfNQ_MW9SFQKt2NMpKXqvsaWOhorLQ%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447833455511","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447833455511","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 17:25:47] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA332a1642ca1b2ed0277d85a90ca20c56","DialCallSid":"CA1a8aa84be902ba47ea10fd81067a53ab","DialCallStatus":"busy","DialCallDuration":null} 
[2026-08-20 17:26:28] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA332a1642ca1b2ed0277d85a90ca20c56","DialCallSid":null,"DialCallStatus":null,"DialCallDuration":null} 
[2026-08-20 17:26:32] production.INFO: Broadcasting [Illuminate\Notifications\Events\BroadcastNotificationCreated] on channels [private-App.Models.User.User.36] with payload:
{
    "type": "App\\Notifications\\VoicemailReceivedNotification",
    "title": "New Voicemail",
    "message": "From James Morrison \u00b7 0:28",
    "recording_id": 4452,
    "communication_id": 6423,
    "client_id": 1516,
    "caller_name": "James Morrison",
    "duration": 28,
    "solicitor_id": 3,
    "id": "9056cd70-861c-4472-bffd-92e4d686dbbf",
    "socket": null
}  
[2026-08-20 17:26:33] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4452 → AssemblyAI 40afce54-f9b8-4ae6-9f86-e39a4d50fe98  
[2026-08-20 17:27:33] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4452 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 17:27:33] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4452 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 17:27:34] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4452. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 17:27:36] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4452  
[2026-08-20 17:31:42] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4453 → AssemblyAI 92d6d72e-7e14-4834-b3f6-e5dc898119c8  
[2026-08-20 17:32:40] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA8b043b0e24805371080a0f108d9b8f8f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6424"} 
[2026-08-20 17:32:40] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6424,"CallSid":"CA8b043b0e24805371080a0f108d9b8f8f","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA8b043b0e24805371080a0f108d9b8f8f","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6424"}} 
[2026-08-20 17:32:43] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4453 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 17:32:43] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4453 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 17:32:44] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4453. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 17:32:45] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=initial for recording 4453  
[2026-08-20 17:32:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 17:33:41] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 4453. {"total_score":22,"risk_rating":"high_risk","has_sections":true} 
[2026-08-20 17:35:49] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 17:38:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 17:38:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 17:39:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 17:40:09] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 17:45:14] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 17:52:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 17:53:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 17:53:51] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 17:53:55] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 17:57:56] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11823 (image001.jpg) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 17:57:58] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19976 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 17:57:59] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19976 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref=''.  
[2026-08-20 17:58:07] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19976 — AI matcher dsar_id=2522, confidence=high.  
[2026-08-20 17:58:07] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19976 linked to DSAR 2522.  
[2026-08-20 17:58:09] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19976 response_type=partial_data.  
[2026-08-20 17:58:09] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19976 → triage_queue=dsar_evidence (response_type=partial_data, dsar_id=2522).  
[2026-08-20 17:58:09] production.INFO: ExtractEvidenceFromAttachmentJob: attachment 11823 — skipped as small image (823 bytes), likely signature/logo.  
[2026-08-20 18:02:15] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19977 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 18:02:16] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19977 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='100047'.  
[2026-08-20 18:02:16] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19977 matched DSAR 472 via reference lookup (100047).  
[2026-08-20 18:02:16] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference '100047' for DSAR 472.  
[2026-08-20 18:02:18] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19977 response_type=data_provided.  
[2026-08-20 18:02:18] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19977 → triage_queue=dsar_evidence (response_type=data_provided, dsar_id=472).  
[2026-08-20 18:08:59] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEHNKMMP4Q6K5T6XKDP1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:08:59] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEHNKMMP4Q6K5T6XKDP1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:00] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEK2TEXA25ZVCJM35NG1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:00] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEK2TEXA25ZVCJM35NG1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:01] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEKMBRJV3T6VG8VRYWJ4"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:01] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEKMBRJV3T6VG8VRYWJ4"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:02] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEM5HVQR2N77MXQF2CJK"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:02] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEM5HVQR2N77MXQF2CJK"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:02] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEMR5F1N4D1NE78TFQQF"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:02] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEMR5F1N4D1NE78TFQQF"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:12] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEHNKMMP4Q6K5T6XKDP1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:12] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEHNKMMP4Q6K5T6XKDP1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEK2TEXA25ZVCJM35NG1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:13] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEK2TEXA25ZVCJM35NG1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEKMBRJV3T6VG8VRYWJ4"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:13] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEKMBRJV3T6VG8VRYWJ4"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEM5HVQR2N77MXQF2CJK"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:14] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEM5HVQR2N77MXQF2CJK"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEMR5F1N4D1NE78TFQQF"} 
[2026-08-20 18:09:15] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEMR5F1N4D1NE78TFQQF"} 
[2026-08-20 18:10:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEHNKMMP4Q6K5T6XKDP1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:10:13] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEHNKMMP4Q6K5T6XKDP1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:10:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEK2TEXA25ZVCJM35NG1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:10:13] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEK2TEXA25ZVCJM35NG1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:10:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEKMBRJV3T6VG8VRYWJ4"} 
[2026-08-20 18:10:14] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEKMBRJV3T6VG8VRYWJ4"} 
[2026-08-20 18:10:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEM5HVQR2N77MXQF2CJK"} 
[2026-08-20 18:10:15] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEM5HVQR2N77MXQF2CJK"} 
[2026-08-20 18:10:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEMR5F1N4D1NE78TFQQF"} 
[2026-08-20 18:10:15] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEMR5F1N4D1NE78TFQQF"} 
[2026-08-20 18:13:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 18:15:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEHNKMMP4Q6K5T6XKDP1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:15:13] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEHNKMMP4Q6K5T6XKDP1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:15:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEK2TEXA25ZVCJM35NG1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:15:14] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEK2TEXA25ZVCJM35NG1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:15:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEKMBRJV3T6VG8VRYWJ4"} 
[2026-08-20 18:15:15] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEKMBRJV3T6VG8VRYWJ4"} 
[2026-08-20 18:15:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEM5HVQR2N77MXQF2CJK"} 
[2026-08-20 18:15:16] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEM5HVQR2N77MXQF2CJK"} 
[2026-08-20 18:15:16] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEMR5F1N4D1NE78TFQQF"} 
[2026-08-20 18:15:16] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEMR5F1N4D1NE78TFQQF"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:47] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36G8B3NM5HMXDV4YXDX3M"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:47] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36G8B3NM5HMXDV4YXDX3M"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:48] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GA6YBA4DHFGBMYCR7KZ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:48] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GA6YBA4DHFGBMYCR7KZ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:49] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GAMTTY2FK7VEB2J8ERV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:49] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GAMTTY2FK7VEB2J8ERV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:50] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GB2FEQH5BMVXX4R8BZ0"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:50] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GB2FEQH5BMVXX4R8BZ0"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:50] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GDBKCEBWCWRP3R6PK8S"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:50] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GDBKCEBWCWRP3R6PK8S"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:51] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GE6303PMWTFDYAH008Q"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:51] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GE6303PMWTFDYAH008Q"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:52] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GEMDBD81STMSK63QQKN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:52] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GEMDBD81STMSK63QQKN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:52] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GF2V87MG6YF4X2ZFKS3"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:52] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GF2V87MG6YF4X2ZFKS3"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:53] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GFK6SNZH2T2Q05WEHJV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:23:53] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GFK6SNZH2T2Q05WEHJV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:00] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36G8B3NM5HMXDV4YXDX3M"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:00] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36G8B3NM5HMXDV4YXDX3M"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:00] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GA6YBA4DHFGBMYCR7KZ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:00] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GA6YBA4DHFGBMYCR7KZ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:01] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GAMTTY2FK7VEB2J8ERV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:01] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GAMTTY2FK7VEB2J8ERV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:01] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:02] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GB2FEQH5BMVXX4R8BZ0"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:02] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GB2FEQH5BMVXX4R8BZ0"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GDBKCEBWCWRP3R6PK8S"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:03] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GDBKCEBWCWRP3R6PK8S"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GE6303PMWTFDYAH008Q"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:03] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GE6303PMWTFDYAH008Q"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:04] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GEMDBD81STMSK63QQKN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:04] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GEMDBD81STMSK63QQKN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:05] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GF2V87MG6YF4X2ZFKS3"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:05] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GF2V87MG6YF4X2ZFKS3"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:05] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GFK6SNZH2T2Q05WEHJV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:06] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GFK6SNZH2T2Q05WEHJV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:12] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378RFX1D68H9YHJ19368W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:12] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378RFX1D68H9YHJ19368W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378TJ5KB8WSWWC1GNFM5J"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:13] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378TJ5KB8WSWWC1GNFM5J"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378V2JHJ232HDD55N9Q26"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:14] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378V2JHJ232HDD55N9Q26"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378VK5TCFF699D111QNH1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:14] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378VK5TCFF699D111QNH1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378XWCSTP4Y5SXC9TP38P"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:15] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378XWCSTP4Y5SXC9TP38P"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:16] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378YW0MC1V6X641Y3GYPB"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:16] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378YW0MC1V6X641Y3GYPB"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:16] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378ZH1GS9VC0D60AR3Z4T"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:16] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378ZH1GS9VC0D60AR3Z4T"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:17] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37907MT3JWHP5E1G5CE9W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:17] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G37907MT3JWHP5E1G5CE9W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:18] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G3790Y73V02NF2S2XN7Z6X"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:18] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G3790Y73V02NF2S2XN7Z6X"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:18] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37ESBWVR16J8SRN6NZ3E8"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:18] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G37ESBWVR16J8SRN6NZ3E8"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:19] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37EV0P7NFY7E57Y19S9QA"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:19] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G37EV0P7NFY7E57Y19S9QA"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:20] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37EVGXCMG2F1E8VPAXVNP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:20] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G37EVGXCMG2F1E8VPAXVNP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:20] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37EW0HSGTZ22W6WHMDJ50"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:20] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G37EW0HSGTZ22W6WHMDJ50"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:21] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37EY3BBCMJDFCJ17456ZP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:21] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G37EY3BBCMJDFCJ17456ZP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:22] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37EYYD052FJM7PGJ3V8KY"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:22] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G37EYYD052FJM7PGJ3V8KY"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:22] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378RFX1D68H9YHJ19368W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:22] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378RFX1D68H9YHJ19368W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:23] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378TJ5KB8WSWWC1GNFM5J"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:23] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378TJ5KB8WSWWC1GNFM5J"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:24] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37EZH3T6BB6W6Z44SJ1V9"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:24] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G37EZH3T6BB6W6Z44SJ1V9"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378V2JHJ232HDD55N9Q26"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:25] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378V2JHJ232HDD55N9Q26"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:25] production.INFO: eSign signing-link email: firing trigger (single request link) {"contract_request_id":1043,"documents":9,"has_signing_url":true} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378VK5TCFF699D111QNH1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:26] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378VK5TCFF699D111QNH1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378XWCSTP4Y5SXC9TP38P"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:27] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378XWCSTP4Y5SXC9TP38P"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378YW0MC1V6X641Y3GYPB"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:28] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378YW0MC1V6X641Y3GYPB"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37F05CJ49P4ASEH6X5QQN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37F0VGTKD62VAV9SF3V3R"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378ZH1GS9VC0D60AR3Z4T"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:30] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378ZH1GS9VC0D60AR3Z4T"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37907MT3JWHP5E1G5CE9W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:31] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G37907MT3JWHP5E1G5CE9W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G3790Y73V02NF2S2XN7Z6X"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:31] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G3790Y73V02NF2S2XN7Z6X"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37ESBWVR16J8SRN6NZ3E8"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37EV0P7NFY7E57Y19S9QA"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37EVGXCMG2F1E8VPAXVNP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:34] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37EW0HSGTZ22W6WHMDJ50"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37EY3BBCMJDFCJ17456ZP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37EYYD052FJM7PGJ3V8KY"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37EZH3T6BB6W6Z44SJ1V9"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G37ESBWVR16J8SRN6NZ3E8"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G37EV0P7NFY7E57Y19S9QA"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G37EVGXCMG2F1E8VPAXVNP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G37EW0HSGTZ22W6WHMDJ50"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G37EY3BBCMJDFCJ17456ZP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G37EYYD052FJM7PGJ3V8KY"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:41] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G37EZH3T6BB6W6Z44SJ1V9"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:42] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G37F05CJ49P4ASEH6X5QQN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:24:42] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G37F0VGTKD62VAV9SF3V3R"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:01] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36G8B3NM5HMXDV4YXDX3M"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:01] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36G8B3NM5HMXDV4YXDX3M"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:02] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GA6YBA4DHFGBMYCR7KZ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:02] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GA6YBA4DHFGBMYCR7KZ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GAMTTY2FK7VEB2J8ERV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:03] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GAMTTY2FK7VEB2J8ERV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GB2FEQH5BMVXX4R8BZ0"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:04] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GB2FEQH5BMVXX4R8BZ0"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:04] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GDBKCEBWCWRP3R6PK8S"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:04] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GDBKCEBWCWRP3R6PK8S"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:05] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GE6303PMWTFDYAH008Q"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:05] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GE6303PMWTFDYAH008Q"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:05] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GEMDBD81STMSK63QQKN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:06] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GEMDBD81STMSK63QQKN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:06] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GF2V87MG6YF4X2ZFKS3"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:06] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GF2V87MG6YF4X2ZFKS3"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:07] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GFK6SNZH2T2Q05WEHJV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:07] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GFK6SNZH2T2Q05WEHJV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378RFX1D68H9YHJ19368W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:25] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378RFX1D68H9YHJ19368W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378TJ5KB8WSWWC1GNFM5J"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:26] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378TJ5KB8WSWWC1GNFM5J"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378V2JHJ232HDD55N9Q26"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:27] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378V2JHJ232HDD55N9Q26"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378VK5TCFF699D111QNH1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:27] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378VK5TCFF699D111QNH1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378XWCSTP4Y5SXC9TP38P"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:28] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378XWCSTP4Y5SXC9TP38P"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378YW0MC1V6X641Y3GYPB"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:29] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378YW0MC1V6X641Y3GYPB"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378ZH1GS9VC0D60AR3Z4T"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:32] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378ZH1GS9VC0D60AR3Z4T"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37907MT3JWHP5E1G5CE9W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:33] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G37907MT3JWHP5E1G5CE9W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:34] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G3790Y73V02NF2S2XN7Z6X"} 
[2026-08-20 18:25:34] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G3790Y73V02NF2S2XN7Z6X"} 
[2026-08-20 18:28:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 18:28:49] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA2b9b0f70afaa8a3edefc1735e7ed1630","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6425"} 
[2026-08-20 18:28:49] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6425,"CallSid":"CA2b9b0f70afaa8a3edefc1735e7ed1630","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA2b9b0f70afaa8a3edefc1735e7ed1630","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6425"}} 
[2026-08-20 18:29:21] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4455 → AssemblyAI 2a9a089a-5a87-4f90-a5b7-eb2797be9be9  
[2026-08-20 18:29:24] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA84f8b219ad3697cd0e6a15d8992e7e0b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6426"} 
[2026-08-20 18:29:24] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6426,"CallSid":"CA84f8b219ad3697cd0e6a15d8992e7e0b","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA84f8b219ad3697cd0e6a15d8992e7e0b","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6426"}} 
[2026-08-20 18:29:40] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4454 → AssemblyAI 8deb7736-2c53-4462-9237-685b91e81697  
[2026-08-20 18:30:02] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36G8B3NM5HMXDV4YXDX3M"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:02] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36G8B3NM5HMXDV4YXDX3M"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GA6YBA4DHFGBMYCR7KZ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:03] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GA6YBA4DHFGBMYCR7KZ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:03] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GAMTTY2FK7VEB2J8ERV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:03] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GAMTTY2FK7VEB2J8ERV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:07] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GB2FEQH5BMVXX4R8BZ0"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:07] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GB2FEQH5BMVXX4R8BZ0"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:08] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GDBKCEBWCWRP3R6PK8S"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:08] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GDBKCEBWCWRP3R6PK8S"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:08] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GE6303PMWTFDYAH008Q"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:08] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GE6303PMWTFDYAH008Q"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:09] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GEMDBD81STMSK63QQKN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:09] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GEMDBD81STMSK63QQKN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GF2V87MG6YF4X2ZFKS3"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:10] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GF2V87MG6YF4X2ZFKS3"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GFK6SNZH2T2Q05WEHJV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:10] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GFK6SNZH2T2Q05WEHJV"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:23] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4455 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 18:30:25] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4455 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 18:30:26] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4455. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:27] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4455 — too short to classify (duration=4s, words=12).  
[2026-08-20 18:30:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378RFX1D68H9YHJ19368W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:27] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378RFX1D68H9YHJ19368W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378TJ5KB8WSWWC1GNFM5J"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:28] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378TJ5KB8WSWWC1GNFM5J"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378V2JHJ232HDD55N9Q26"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:29] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378V2JHJ232HDD55N9Q26"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378VK5TCFF699D111QNH1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:30] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378VK5TCFF699D111QNH1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378XWCSTP4Y5SXC9TP38P"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:31] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378XWCSTP4Y5SXC9TP38P"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378YW0MC1V6X641Y3GYPB"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:31] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378YW0MC1V6X641Y3GYPB"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:35] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378ZH1GS9VC0D60AR3Z4T"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:35] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378ZH1GS9VC0D60AR3Z4T"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37907MT3JWHP5E1G5CE9W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:36] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G37907MT3JWHP5E1G5CE9W"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G3790Y73V02NF2S2XN7Z6X"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:37] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G3790Y73V02NF2S2XN7Z6X"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:42] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4454 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 18:30:42] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4454 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 18:30:42] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4456 → AssemblyAI 1fee5ed2-dfc6-47d8-8c9c-caee2ec29eca  
[2026-08-20 18:30:43] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4454. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 18:30:43] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: recording 4454 marked 'initial' by agent disposition; skipping classifier.  
[2026-08-20 18:31:42] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4456 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 18:31:42] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4456 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 18:31:43] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4456. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 18:31:44] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4456  
[2026-08-20 18:31:51] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 4454. {"total_score":80,"risk_rating":"acceptable","has_sections":true} 
[2026-08-20 18:33:31] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA1c2ae7da365b0434183d15dbd05466a1","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6427"} 
[2026-08-20 18:33:31] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6427,"CallSid":"CA1c2ae7da365b0434183d15dbd05466a1","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA1c2ae7da365b0434183d15dbd05466a1","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6427"}} 
[2026-08-20 18:33:45] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 18:35:40] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 18:35:42] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 18:36:34] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 18:37:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 18:38:21] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_3"} 
[2026-08-20 18:39:18] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:39:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:40:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 18:41:24] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 18:42:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:43:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:45:05] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 18:45:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEHNKMMP4Q6K5T6XKDP1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:45:14] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEHNKMMP4Q6K5T6XKDP1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:45:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEK2TEXA25ZVCJM35NG1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:45:15] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEK2TEXA25ZVCJM35NG1"} 
[2026-08-20 18:45:16] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEKMBRJV3T6VG8VRYWJ4"} 
[2026-08-20 18:45:16] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEKMBRJV3T6VG8VRYWJ4"} 
[2026-08-20 18:45:16] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEM5HVQR2N77MXQF2CJK"} 
[2026-08-20 18:45:16] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEM5HVQR2N77MXQF2CJK"} 
[2026-08-20 18:45:17] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEMR5F1N4D1NE78TFQQF"} 
[2026-08-20 18:45:17] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEMR5F1N4D1NE78TFQQF"} 
[2026-08-20 18:52:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 18:56:55] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G534D7340ZVV343AR8A05Y"} 
[2026-08-20 18:56:55] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G534D7340ZVV343AR8A05Y"} 
[2026-08-20 18:56:55] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G534F8CNK25352SVTGAFSA"} 
[2026-08-20 18:56:55] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G534F8CNK25352SVTGAFSA"} 
[2026-08-20 18:56:56] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G534FNCFS700JPY5NF96PP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:56:56] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G534FNCFS700JPY5NF96PP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:56:57] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G534G33SX67AAXZ7PSQCZQ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:56:57] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G534G33SX67AAXZ7PSQCZQ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:56:57] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G534J4FGT0HJBJM91BQHNN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:56:57] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G534J4FGT0HJBJM91BQHNN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:56:58] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G534K0J8AMPYC9KNYT0D3D"} 
[2026-08-20 18:56:58] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G534K0J8AMPYC9KNYT0D3D"} 
[2026-08-20 18:56:59] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G534KFM24FJQWPE6PKDNT6"} 
[2026-08-20 18:56:59] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G534KFM24FJQWPE6PKDNT6"} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:02] production.INFO: eSign signing-link email: firing trigger (single request link) {"contract_request_id":1044,"documents":7,"has_signing_url":true} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:06] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G534D7340ZVV343AR8A05Y"} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:06] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G534F8CNK25352SVTGAFSA"} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:08] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G534FNCFS700JPY5NF96PP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:09] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G534G33SX67AAXZ7PSQCZQ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G534J4FGT0HJBJM91BQHNN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:11] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G534K0J8AMPYC9KNYT0D3D"} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:12] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G534KFM24FJQWPE6PKDNT6"} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G534D7340ZVV343AR8A05Y"} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G534F8CNK25352SVTGAFSA"} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G534FNCFS700JPY5NF96PP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G534G33SX67AAXZ7PSQCZQ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:16] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G534J4FGT0HJBJM91BQHNN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:17] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G534K0J8AMPYC9KNYT0D3D"} 
[2026-08-20 18:57:19] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G534KFM24FJQWPE6PKDNT6"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G534D7340ZVV343AR8A05Y"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G534F8CNK25352SVTGAFSA"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G534FNCFS700JPY5NF96PP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G534G33SX67AAXZ7PSQCZQ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:41] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G534J4FGT0HJBJM91BQHNN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:42] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G534K0J8AMPYC9KNYT0D3D"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:42] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G534KFM24FJQWPE6PKDNT6"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:43] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G534D7340ZVV343AR8A05Y"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:44] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G534F8CNK25352SVTGAFSA"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:44] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G534FNCFS700JPY5NF96PP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:45] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G534G33SX67AAXZ7PSQCZQ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:46] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G534J4FGT0HJBJM91BQHNN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:47] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G534K0J8AMPYC9KNYT0D3D"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:47] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G534KFM24FJQWPE6PKDNT6"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:48] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G534D7340ZVV343AR8A05Y"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:49] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G534D7340ZVV343AR8A05Y"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:50] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G534F8CNK25352SVTGAFSA"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:50] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G534F8CNK25352SVTGAFSA"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:51] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G534FNCFS700JPY5NF96PP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:52] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G534FNCFS700JPY5NF96PP"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:53] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G534G33SX67AAXZ7PSQCZQ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:53] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G534G33SX67AAXZ7PSQCZQ"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:54] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G534J4FGT0HJBJM91BQHNN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:54] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:55] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G534J4FGT0HJBJM91BQHNN"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:55] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G534K0J8AMPYC9KNYT0D3D"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:56] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G534K0J8AMPYC9KNYT0D3D"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:57] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G534KFM24FJQWPE6PKDNT6"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:58] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G534KFM24FJQWPE6PKDNT6"} 
[2026-08-20 18:58:59] production.INFO: Broadcasting [Illuminate\Notifications\Events\BroadcastNotificationCreated] on channels [private-App.Models.User.User.36] with payload:
{
    "type": "App\\Notifications\\InitialDocumentsSignedNotification",
    "title": "Initial documents e-signed",
    "message": "Mr David James Fennell e-signed 7 documents",
    "client_id": 1468,
    "client_name": "Mr David James Fennell",
    "documents": [
        "LOA",
        "Client Care Letter",
        "CFA",
        "Part 1",
        "Part 2",
        "Part 2 Extra",
        "Part 2 Extra"
    ],
    "id": "0b6eefe1-a5bb-4ec3-8cd2-c88066fa63a2",
    "socket": null
}  
[2026-08-20 18:59:42] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:04] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36G8B3NM5HMXDV4YXDX3M"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:04] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36G8B3NM5HMXDV4YXDX3M"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:05] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GA6YBA4DHFGBMYCR7KZ"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:05] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GA6YBA4DHFGBMYCR7KZ"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:06] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GAMTTY2FK7VEB2J8ERV"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:06] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GAMTTY2FK7VEB2J8ERV"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GB2FEQH5BMVXX4R8BZ0"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:10] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GB2FEQH5BMVXX4R8BZ0"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GDBKCEBWCWRP3R6PK8S"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:10] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GDBKCEBWCWRP3R6PK8S"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:11] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GE6303PMWTFDYAH008Q"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:11] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GE6303PMWTFDYAH008Q"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:12] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GEMDBD81STMSK63QQKN"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:12] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GEMDBD81STMSK63QQKN"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:12] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GF2V87MG6YF4X2ZFKS3"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:12] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GF2V87MG6YF4X2ZFKS3"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GFK6SNZH2T2Q05WEHJV"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:13] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GFK6SNZH2T2Q05WEHJV"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378RFX1D68H9YHJ19368W"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:29] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378RFX1D68H9YHJ19368W"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378TJ5KB8WSWWC1GNFM5J"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:29] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378TJ5KB8WSWWC1GNFM5J"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378V2JHJ232HDD55N9Q26"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:30] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378V2JHJ232HDD55N9Q26"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378VK5TCFF699D111QNH1"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:31] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378VK5TCFF699D111QNH1"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378XWCSTP4Y5SXC9TP38P"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:31] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378XWCSTP4Y5SXC9TP38P"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378YW0MC1V6X641Y3GYPB"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:32] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378YW0MC1V6X641Y3GYPB"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378ZH1GS9VC0D60AR3Z4T"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:36] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378ZH1GS9VC0D60AR3Z4T"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37907MT3JWHP5E1G5CE9W"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:36] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G37907MT3JWHP5E1G5CE9W"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G3790Y73V02NF2S2XN7Z6X"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:37] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G3790Y73V02NF2S2XN7Z6X"} 
[2026-08-20 19:00:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:01:10] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:01:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:01:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:01:23] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:01:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:01:35] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:01:37] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4457 → AssemblyAI cde59353-f378-449a-8542-1f9bd6fbea8d  
[2026-08-20 19:01:41] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:01:44] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:01:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:01:53] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:01:59] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:02:02] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:02:05] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"Called":"+441618880834","ToState":"Manchester","CallerCountry":"GB","Direction":"inbound","CallerState":null,"ToZip":null,"CallSid":"CA10d7fa6f72407313b8134211347f5750","To":"+441618880834","CallerZip":null,"ToCountry":"GB","CallToken":"%7B%22parentCallInfoToken%22%3A%22eyJhbGciOiJFUzI1NiJ9.eyJjYWxsU2lkIjoiQ0ExMGQ3ZmE2ZjcyNDA3MzEzYjgxMzQyMTEzNDdmNTc1MCIsImZyb20iOiIrNDQ3NDU2NDcxODM0IiwidG8iOiIrNDQxNjE4ODgwODM0IiwiaWF0IjoiMTc4NzI0ODkyNCJ9.yk5HBu_--anz_dvONatUD3pO1PPli149CKkONUUcKfwSMXCuGgrV5xyp_dsRMB7Gpl-OFZcsSpGQGvyIiKmAng%22%2C%22identityHeaderTokens%22%3A%5B%5D%7D","CalledZip":null,"ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","CalledCity":null,"CallStatus":"ringing","From":"+447456471834","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","CalledCountry":"GB","CallerCity":null,"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ToCity":null,"FromCountry":"GB","Caller":"+447456471834","FromCity":null,"CalledState":"Manchester","FromZip":null,"FromState":null} 
[2026-08-20 19:02:07] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:02:39] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4457 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 19:02:39] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4457 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 19:02:39] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4457. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 19:02:39] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: recording 4457 marked 'initial' by agent disposition; skipping classifier.  
[2026-08-20 19:03:21] production.DEBUG: TwilioDialFallbackController: dial action {"CallSid":"CA10d7fa6f72407313b8134211347f5750","DialCallSid":"CA1a9ff3ba1956e35fd2fd9bb6f4e847b0","DialCallStatus":"completed","DialCallDuration":"71"} 
[2026-08-20 19:03:29] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4458 → AssemblyAI 785667d7-aebc-45a4-b52a-dc8462fbab8c  
[2026-08-20 19:03:37] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 4457. {"total_score":72,"risk_rating":"compliance_concern","has_sections":true} 
[2026-08-20 19:03:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:04:04] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:04:09] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:04:13] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:04:15] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:04:19] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:04:30] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4458 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 19:04:30] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4458 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 19:04:30] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4458. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 19:04:31] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4458  
[2026-08-20 19:04:36] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:04:43] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:04:43] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19987 classified as 'generic' (high).  
[2026-08-20 19:04:50] production.INFO: NotifyCaseHandlersOfEmailJob: ensured handler tasks for message 19987 (client 1468, 1 handler(s)).  
[2026-08-20 19:05:33] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAe5f96c134c363401804afaadd6187058","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6429"} 
[2026-08-20 19:05:33] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6429,"CallSid":"CAe5f96c134c363401804afaadd6187058","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAe5f96c134c363401804afaadd6187058","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6429"}} 
[2026-08-20 19:06:14] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4459 → AssemblyAI 63fb8f0b-c37e-4581-ac54-fff7d6c20af1  
[2026-08-20 19:06:16] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA8fbf52f1aacb9da6e6c88f252c74f5c6","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6430"} 
[2026-08-20 19:06:16] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6430,"CallSid":"CA8fbf52f1aacb9da6e6c88f252c74f5c6","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA8fbf52f1aacb9da6e6c88f252c74f5c6","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6430"}} 
[2026-08-20 19:06:31] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:06:33] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4460 → AssemblyAI 66ae8067-4bf8-4725-85e8-3870d5ab055d  
[2026-08-20 19:06:55] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAd325523a4918f054412e0107f8170d08","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6431"} 
[2026-08-20 19:06:55] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6431,"CallSid":"CAd325523a4918f054412e0107f8170d08","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAd325523a4918f054412e0107f8170d08","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6431"}} 
[2026-08-20 19:07:14] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4459 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 19:07:14] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4459 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 19:07:15] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4459. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 19:07:16] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=initial for recording 4459  
[2026-08-20 19:07:33] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4460 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 19:07:33] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4460 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 19:07:34] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4460. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 19:07:34] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4460 — too short to classify (duration=6s, words=10).  
[2026-08-20 19:07:48] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: scorer returned for recording 4459. {"total_score":12,"risk_rating":"high_risk","has_sections":true} 
[2026-08-20 19:08:19] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4461 → AssemblyAI 6763edda-5aa7-48da-a8ce-f46dd8982935  
[2026-08-20 19:09:03] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA006b7acdb3ef309fef5ffec3cd05f33c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6432"} 
[2026-08-20 19:09:03] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6432,"CallSid":"CA006b7acdb3ef309fef5ffec3cd05f33c","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA006b7acdb3ef309fef5ffec3cd05f33c","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6432"}} 
[2026-08-20 19:09:21] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4461 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 19:09:21] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4461 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 19:09:21] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4461. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 19:09:22] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=not_applicable for recording 4461  
[2026-08-20 19:09:44] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4462 → AssemblyAI 04d42f31-1f41-4208-bdbb-f1b497508410  
[2026-08-20 19:09:57] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAd1b53b82e6994974452b8ed177ac6a17","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6433"} 
[2026-08-20 19:09:57] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6433,"CallSid":"CAd1b53b82e6994974452b8ed177ac6a17","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CAd1b53b82e6994974452b8ed177ac6a17","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6433"}} 
[2026-08-20 19:10:28] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4463 → AssemblyAI 7e681242-422e-495b-bda2-96cc910f13a9  
[2026-08-20 19:10:43] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA22903b69fe15e31c41d6b26765f1238d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6434"} 
[2026-08-20 19:10:43] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6434,"CallSid":"CA22903b69fe15e31c41d6b26765f1238d","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA22903b69fe15e31c41d6b26765f1238d","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6434"}} 
[2026-08-20 19:10:45] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4462 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 19:10:45] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4462 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 19:10:45] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4462. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 19:10:45] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4462 — too short to classify (duration=7s, words=23).  
[2026-08-20 19:11:29] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4463 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 19:11:29] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4463 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 19:11:29] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4463. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 19:11:30] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4463 — too short to classify (duration=21s, words=49).  
[2026-08-20 19:11:32] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4464 → AssemblyAI 35afb083-2541-4760-b492-b968aedfe5e0  
[2026-08-20 19:12:01] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA37ddc1b92a3083b7eb69fd4ad66f2a69","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6435"} 
[2026-08-20 19:12:01] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6435,"CallSid":"CA37ddc1b92a3083b7eb69fd4ad66f2a69","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA37ddc1b92a3083b7eb69fd4ad66f2a69","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6435"}} 
[2026-08-20 19:12:30] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4465 → AssemblyAI 5078238f-bb03-4f70-a1a8-65155d7cc59d  
[2026-08-20 19:12:33] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4464 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 19:12:33] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4464 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 19:12:34] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4464. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 19:12:34] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4464 — too short to classify (duration=23s, words=70).  
[2026-08-20 19:13:30] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4465 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 19:13:30] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4465 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 19:13:31] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4465. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 19:13:31] production.INFO: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: skipping recording 4465 — too short to classify (duration=4s, words=12).  
[2026-08-20 19:16:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 19:16:46] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 19:16:58] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_1"} 
[2026-08-20 19:20:47] production.DEBUG: Twilio Request {"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA1a2d166e82b7cddd24dbf4c2682d0194","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6436"} 
[2026-08-20 19:20:47] production.DEBUG: TwilioController: handleOutbound {"call_id":6436,"CallSid":"CA1a2d166e82b7cddd24dbf4c2682d0194","From":"client:agent_production_36","Direction":"inbound","params":{"ApplicationSid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","ApiVersion":"2010-04-01","Called":null,"Caller":"client:agent_production_36","CallStatus":"ringing","From":"client:agent_production_36","CallSid":"CA1a2d166e82b7cddd24dbf4c2682d0194","To":null,"Direction":"inbound","AccountSid":"AC984ab7ddf0c2d6562dfe6d27e1bc10be","call_id":"6436"}} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:09] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDCCHPQAZVFS6SY59FHA"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:09] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G6HDCCHPQAZVFS6SY59FHA"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:09] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDDS7ZRXVR4RCRNNNBNB"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:09] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G6HDDS7ZRXVR4RCRNNNBNB"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDE6G1V3ZJTNFZYS4ZAG"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:10] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G6HDE6G1V3ZJTNFZYS4ZAG"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:10] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDEKH8753WGDAER011ET"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:10] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G6HDEKH8753WGDAER011ET"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:11] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDGWHV2G4WK7XXFE1PV8"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:11] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G6HDGWHV2G4WK7XXFE1PV8"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:11] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDHX38N5ZG6363DPRFQH"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:11] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G6HDHX38N5ZG6363DPRFQH"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:12] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDJGSJTDMVR7RMY3409J"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:12] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G6HDJGSJTDMVR7RMY3409J"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:12] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDK1JSFY84DT35QS1KHE"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:12] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G6HDK1JSFY84DT35QS1KHE"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:16] production.INFO: eSign signing-link email: firing trigger (single request link) {"contract_request_id":1045,"documents":8,"has_signing_url":true} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:19] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDCCHPQAZVFS6SY59FHA"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:19] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDDS7ZRXVR4RCRNNNBNB"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:20] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDE6G1V3ZJTNFZYS4ZAG"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:20] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDEKH8753WGDAER011ET"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:21] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G6HDCCHPQAZVFS6SY59FHA"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:21] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDGWHV2G4WK7XXFE1PV8"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:22] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:22] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDHX38N5ZG6363DPRFQH"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:22] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDJGSJTDMVR7RMY3409J"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:23] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G6HDK1JSFY84DT35QS1KHE"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:23] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G6HDDS7ZRXVR4RCRNNNBNB"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:24] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G6HDE6G1V3ZJTNFZYS4ZAG"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G6HDEKH8753WGDAER011ET"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G6HDGWHV2G4WK7XXFE1PV8"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G6HDHX38N5ZG6363DPRFQH"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G6HDJGSJTDMVR7RMY3409J"} 
[2026-08-20 19:22:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.sent","document_id":"01M0G6HDK1JSFY84DT35QS1KHE"} 
[2026-08-20 19:23:32] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:23:42] production.INFO: AutoTranscribeRecordingJob: submitted recording 4466 → AssemblyAI 400a7a8a-19e1-444f-89e8-5cd8a7f226dd  
[2026-08-20 19:24:33] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:24:43] production.DEBUG: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: recording 4466 → AssemblyAI status=completed (check #0)  
[2026-08-20 19:24:43] production.INFO: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: completed for recording 4466 after 0 checks.  
[2026-08-20 19:24:44] production.WARNING: CheckTranscriptionStatusJob: LeMUR summary failed for recording 4466. {"status":404,"body":"Not found"} 
[2026-08-20 19:24:46] production.DEBUG: ClassifyAndScoreCallJob: classification=follow_up for recording 4466  
[2026-08-20 19:24:50] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:25:00] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:27:12] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_36"} 
[2026-08-20 19:33:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZNMJN5B13QH0PEW2YCJ999C"} 
[2026-08-20 19:33:37] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZNMJN6Y0BGZ2C7CPTVA5WJE"} 
[2026-08-20 19:33:38] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZNMJN7E0JK7AC9FRK6JTA9Z"} 
[2026-08-20 19:33:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZNMJN7Y9NG6DBNZDZR3HCHY"} 
[2026-08-20 19:33:39] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZNMJNA5BM9C89SA7KVJ9V9R"} 
[2026-08-20 19:33:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZNMJNB64FNAAV71EWDFWEW5"} 
[2026-08-20 19:33:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZNMJNBWV95EY7DYE19V6E4T"} 
[2026-08-20 19:33:41] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01KZNMJNCKDT1FH8WEMQYH4AD2"} 
[2026-08-20 19:39:52] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":1,"resolved_phone_number_id":1,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_2"} 
[2026-08-20 19:44:56] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 19:52:06] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 20:43:54] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G37ESBWVR16J8SRN6NZ3E8"} 
[2026-08-20 20:43:54] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G37EV0P7NFY7E57Y19S9QA"} 
[2026-08-20 20:43:55] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G37EVGXCMG2F1E8VPAXVNP"} 
[2026-08-20 20:43:55] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G37EW0HSGTZ22W6WHMDJ50"} 
[2026-08-20 20:43:56] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G37EY3BBCMJDFCJ17456ZP"} 
[2026-08-20 20:43:56] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G37EYYD052FJM7PGJ3V8KY"} 
[2026-08-20 20:43:57] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G37EZH3T6BB6W6Z44SJ1V9"} 
[2026-08-20 20:43:57] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G37F05CJ49P4ASEH6X5QQN"} 
[2026-08-20 20:43:58] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.viewed","document_id":"01M0G37F0VGTKD62VAV9SF3V3R"} 
[2026-08-20 20:44:47] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 20:45:17] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEHNKMMP4Q6K5T6XKDP1"} 
[2026-08-20 20:45:17] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEHNKMMP4Q6K5T6XKDP1"} 
[2026-08-20 20:45:17] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEK2TEXA25ZVCJM35NG1"} 
[2026-08-20 20:45:17] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEK2TEXA25ZVCJM35NG1"} 
[2026-08-20 20:45:17] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEKMBRJV3T6VG8VRYWJ4"} 
[2026-08-20 20:45:17] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEKMBRJV3T6VG8VRYWJ4"} 
[2026-08-20 20:45:18] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEM5HVQR2N77MXQF2CJK"} 
[2026-08-20 20:45:18] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEM5HVQR2N77MXQF2CJK"} 
[2026-08-20 20:45:18] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G2BEMR5F1N4D1NE78TFQQF"} 
[2026-08-20 20:45:18] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G2BEMR5F1N4D1NE78TFQQF"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:19] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G37ESBWVR16J8SRN6NZ3E8"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:20] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G37EV0P7NFY7E57Y19S9QA"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:20] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G37EVGXCMG2F1E8VPAXVNP"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:21] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G37EW0HSGTZ22W6WHMDJ50"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:21] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G37EY3BBCMJDFCJ17456ZP"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:22] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G37EYYD052FJM7PGJ3V8KY"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:22] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G37EZH3T6BB6W6Z44SJ1V9"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:23] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G37F05CJ49P4ASEH6X5QQN"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:23] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.signed","document_id":"01M0G37F0VGTKD62VAV9SF3V3R"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:24] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G37ESBWVR16J8SRN6NZ3E8"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:24] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G37ESBWVR16J8SRN6NZ3E8"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G37EV0P7NFY7E57Y19S9QA"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:25] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G37EV0P7NFY7E57Y19S9QA"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:26] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G37EVGXCMG2F1E8VPAXVNP"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G37EVGXCMG2F1E8VPAXVNP"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:27] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G37EW0HSGTZ22W6WHMDJ50"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G37EW0HSGTZ22W6WHMDJ50"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:28] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G37EY3BBCMJDFCJ17456ZP"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G37EY3BBCMJDFCJ17456ZP"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:29] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G37EYYD052FJM7PGJ3V8KY"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G37EYYD052FJM7PGJ3V8KY"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G37EZH3T6BB6W6Z44SJ1V9"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G37EZH3T6BB6W6Z44SJ1V9"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G37F05CJ49P4ASEH6X5QQN"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G37F05CJ49P4ASEH6X5QQN"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"certificate.generated","document_id":"01M0G37F0VGTKD62VAV9SF3V3R"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.completed","document_id":"01M0G37F0VGTKD62VAV9SF3V3R"} 
[2026-08-20 20:47:35] production.INFO: Broadcasting [Illuminate\Notifications\Events\BroadcastNotificationCreated] on channels [private-App.Models.User.User.36] with payload:
{
    "type": "App\\Notifications\\InitialDocumentsSignedNotification",
    "title": "Initial documents e-signed",
    "message": "Mr James George Thomson Morrison e-signed 9 documents",
    "client_id": 1516,
    "client_name": "Mr James George Thomson Morrison",
    "documents": [
        "LOA",
        "Client Care Letter",
        "CFA",
        "Part 1",
        "Part 2",
        "Part 2 Extra",
        "Part 2 Extra",
        "Part 2 Extra",
        "Part 2 Extra"
    ],
    "id": "ca65c94d-c347-4eed-9e07-f5d02cf0962d",
    "socket": null
}  
[2026-08-20 20:51:57] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:08] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36G8B3NM5HMXDV4YXDX3M"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:08] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36G8B3NM5HMXDV4YXDX3M"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:08] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GA6YBA4DHFGBMYCR7KZ"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:08] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GA6YBA4DHFGBMYCR7KZ"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:09] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GAMTTY2FK7VEB2J8ERV"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:09] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GAMTTY2FK7VEB2J8ERV"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:12] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GB2FEQH5BMVXX4R8BZ0"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:12] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GB2FEQH5BMVXX4R8BZ0"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GDBKCEBWCWRP3R6PK8S"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:13] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GDBKCEBWCWRP3R6PK8S"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:13] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GE6303PMWTFDYAH008Q"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:13] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GE6303PMWTFDYAH008Q"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GEMDBD81STMSK63QQKN"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:14] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GEMDBD81STMSK63QQKN"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:14] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GF2V87MG6YF4X2ZFKS3"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:14] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GF2V87MG6YF4X2ZFKS3"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:15] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G36GFK6SNZH2T2Q05WEHJV"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:15] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G36GFK6SNZH2T2Q05WEHJV"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:30] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378RFX1D68H9YHJ19368W"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:30] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378RFX1D68H9YHJ19368W"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378TJ5KB8WSWWC1GNFM5J"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:31] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378TJ5KB8WSWWC1GNFM5J"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:31] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378V2JHJ232HDD55N9Q26"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:31] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378V2JHJ232HDD55N9Q26"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378VK5TCFF699D111QNH1"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:32] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378VK5TCFF699D111QNH1"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:32] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378XWCSTP4Y5SXC9TP38P"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:32] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378XWCSTP4Y5SXC9TP38P"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:33] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378YW0MC1V6X641Y3GYPB"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:33] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378YW0MC1V6X641Y3GYPB"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:36] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G378ZH1GS9VC0D60AR3Z4T"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:36] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G378ZH1GS9VC0D60AR3Z4T"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G37907MT3JWHP5E1G5CE9W"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:40] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G37907MT3JWHP5E1G5CE9W"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:40] production.DEBUG: eSign webhook received {"event":"document.created","document_id":"01M0G3790Y73V02NF2S2XN7Z6X"} 
[2026-08-20 21:00:40] production.INFO: eSign webhook unmatched document {"document_id":"01M0G3790Y73V02NF2S2XN7Z6X"} 
[2026-08-20 21:05:42] production.INFO: ExtractMessageAttachmentsJob: attachment 11829 (sectra-logo.png) skipped — unsupported type.  
[2026-08-20 21:05:44] production.INFO: ClassifyInboundEmailJob: message 19994 classified as 'dsar_response' (high).  
[2026-08-20 21:05:46] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19994 — dsar_ref='', inst_ref='100034'.  
[2026-08-20 21:05:46] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19994 matched DSAR 379 via reference lookup (100034).  
[2026-08-20 21:05:46] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: saved receiver_reference '100034' for DSAR 379.  
[2026-08-20 21:05:48] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19994 response_type=portal_response.  
[2026-08-20 21:05:48] production.INFO: FindRelatedDsarJob: message 19994 → triage_queue=portal_response (response_type=portal_response, dsar_id=379).  
[2026-08-20 21:44:38] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 21:51:48] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 22:44:29] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 22:51:39] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 23:44:20] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"} 
[2026-08-20 23:51:30] production.WARNING: Dialler token fell back to env TwiML app SID (no workspace-configured app). {"workspace_solicitor_id":3,"resolved_phone_number_id":4,"env_twiml_app_sid":"AP833f5b0190f286e33a7cf1ae0dbf0ce2","identity":"agent_production_29"}